Difference is, Marleau was there for years, and they didn't win, so they probably thought it more as changing the locker room than he wasn't worth it.
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Difference is, Marleau was there for years, and they didn't win, so they probably thought it more as changing the locker room than he wasn't worth it.
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Lindholm is an interesting name out there. Just can't see LA and Carolina being good trading partners at this point.
I was just going to edit that, that you were coming from the C angle....
From all reports though, management disagrees, they are going to run Kopitar, Carter, Kempe, and Thomspon/Amadio/Lewis, whoever on 4th line....
They aren't gonna budge from Kempe playing C.
Ziggy Stardust
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Wha? Did you see how many Kings wingers scored 20+ goals last season? They do need a 3rd line C, but they need a competent winger even more so. Unless you think Iafallo is just fine in that spot.
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Yes, I think so also.
But what happens if his FO% doesn't improve? You can't be a full time center in the NHL when you're sub 40% on the dot, or even sub 45% for that matter.
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The Kings need to be able to roll their top 3 lines more evenly. Adding a winger doesn't solve that problem. With a center you can move Kempe to wing. Plus they'll probably have Vilardi playing wing.
I'm not saying they don't need a winger, they do, I just think they need a center more.
They are going to give him more than a year to improve that....
And none of those teams got to the final dance. It's so weird, it's almost like being a championship caliber team is hard. Reading this place, you'd think it can be done in 6 easy steps.
Ziggy Stardust
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I somehow doubt that the Kings will be looking at adding a contract like that. Lindholm is also seeking over $5M, so...
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They need both but it appears priority #1 is LW. There are competent 3C's available via free agency.
AlphaBravo
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The only way I would deal Vilardi to the Habs would be a deal like this:
Kings send Vilardi, 1st round, and Clague
Habs trades 3OVA, Pachs (signed).
The deal makes sense for both parties. Kings get a high level prospect to continue to restock their cupboard and a proven 30 goal scorer for their "win now" without jeopardizing the future. Habs finally get a potential 1st or 2nd line center, and a young defenseman. They also get to have a 1st rounder.
Kings send Vilardi, 1st round, and Clague
Habs trades 3OVA, Pachs (signed).
The deal makes sense for both parties. Kings get a high level prospect to continue to restock their cupboard and a proven 30 goal scorer for their "win now" without jeopardizing the future. Habs finally get a potential 1st or 2nd line center, and a young defenseman. They also get to have a 1st rounder.
kovacro
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What about one of the guys the Wild are supposedly dangling, Nino, Coyle or Zucker?
Coyle still signed for 2 more years at $3.2 million.
Nino, 4 years left at $5.25 million.
Zucker is an RFA and is due for a pretty good raise.
All 3 in their mid 20’s.
Coyle still signed for 2 more years at $3.2 million.
Nino, 4 years left at $5.25 million.
Zucker is an RFA and is due for a pretty good raise.
All 3 in their mid 20’s.
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There are question marks about wings / center slots. 3 of Carter, Kempe and Vilardi can play wing or center. I actually think Kempe is better at center, than wing, Carter is equally adept at w or c.
I think it would be possible to have Kempe centering Pearson and Carter and letting Carter take the faceoffs. Kempe scored all 16 of his goals on line 2 and can produce there. He's only going to get
better. I would trade Toffoli.
A new report from someone says that they believe Kovalchuk ends up in LA. That's fine by me. He can easily score 30 goals with Kopitar. Even though he's 35, they say he's in the best shape
of his life. Now you take away Iafallo's 9 goals and turn them into 30 goals Kovalchuk can score, LA could have been #1 in the Pacific. The 11 points behind Vegas, could have been eclipsed,
with 20 more goals for.
Sure, everyone would love Tavares and even more, but that's up to Tavares and not Rob Blake. If the Kings can sign Kovalchuk, they're in pretty good shape. If they cannot,
hopefully they can get Pacioretty or Skinner or someone of that level.
Truth be known, the 2012 and 2014 cups were won, LARGELY from the trade deadline deals - Carter in 2012 and Gaborik in 2014. Carter was stellar and gave the Kings a formidable top
6 and dominated...and Gaborik LED the NHL in playoff goals. Those 2 cups had a lot to do with those 2 key deadline deals.
I see no need to panic, if the Kings make 1 move in increasing offense and at the deadline, get what they need.
Several good things in a deadline deal: 1. you will know what you need. 2. you will know the TRUE value of: Vilardi and Bickley...and to a lesser degree, JAD and Clague, who will
have had a half season in the AHL. ANY of those 4 excelling, they have greater trade value then, than now. You have less of a gamble at the trade deadline. Not saying to shy
away of making moves now, though.
I think it would be possible to have Kempe centering Pearson and Carter and letting Carter take the faceoffs. Kempe scored all 16 of his goals on line 2 and can produce there. He's only going to get
better. I would trade Toffoli.
A new report from someone says that they believe Kovalchuk ends up in LA. That's fine by me. He can easily score 30 goals with Kopitar. Even though he's 35, they say he's in the best shape
of his life. Now you take away Iafallo's 9 goals and turn them into 30 goals Kovalchuk can score, LA could have been #1 in the Pacific. The 11 points behind Vegas, could have been eclipsed,
with 20 more goals for.
Sure, everyone would love Tavares and even more, but that's up to Tavares and not Rob Blake. If the Kings can sign Kovalchuk, they're in pretty good shape. If they cannot,
hopefully they can get Pacioretty or Skinner or someone of that level.
Truth be known, the 2012 and 2014 cups were won, LARGELY from the trade deadline deals - Carter in 2012 and Gaborik in 2014. Carter was stellar and gave the Kings a formidable top
6 and dominated...and Gaborik LED the NHL in playoff goals. Those 2 cups had a lot to do with those 2 key deadline deals.
I see no need to panic, if the Kings make 1 move in increasing offense and at the deadline, get what they need.
Several good things in a deadline deal: 1. you will know what you need. 2. you will know the TRUE value of: Vilardi and Bickley...and to a lesser degree, JAD and Clague, who will
have had a half season in the AHL. ANY of those 4 excelling, they have greater trade value then, than now. You have less of a gamble at the trade deadline. Not saying to shy
away of making moves now, though.
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I wouldn't do that if the Habs added the #3 overall!
Vilardi > Tkachuk, Zadina, Kotkaniemi. He was the #1 player in all of junior last year and still 18 years old. If he was born 30 days later, he would be selected 2 or 3 tonight.
Clague was best defenseman in the WHL last year and has the most talent of any King defenseman selected since Doughty. He had 12 goals and 73 assists (playoffs included) for 85 points and has the speed and skill necessary for today's defensemen.
the #1 20 overall will also land a top prospect.
Pacioretty scored 37 pts last year..the same 37 points Kempe scored. That's WAY overpayment.
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lexlavender
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Based upon our needs, and the fact that if we're coughing up Vilardi MTL is coming to US at this point, an unsigned Patches shouldn't cost a Clague and Vilardi. 20th + Vilardi for Patches + 3rd makes sense to me, maybe a small plus form us, but not our best defensive prospect. MTL needs LD I say you could add Martinez and maybe a second on MTL's end and maybe it would be fair. I probably would still be mad though.
Reaper45
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What time is the first round? I swear to christ of Blake (and Luc) do some asinine trade for patches at the cost of more speed/youth I'm going to be pissed. Hes done fine as a GM so far but his leash is very short.
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