2017/18 edition Bruins that will not be back for next season....

[bruinmann77]

Curious to see if cassidy sat spooner because of an injury

 

[Salem13]

Beleskey is not a NHL hockey player at this point...

Sorry, I think I fixed a typo?

 

[Salem13]

Also, as much as everyone wrote Hayes off weeks ago was I the only one way back in dark nasty secretive sections of their minds wishing for him to come into a game healthy and fresh and rocking people for redemption?

I had a flickering candle for Beleski yesterday but somewhere in my Bad News Bears polluted mind I had a prayer for our previously useless but healthy forward?

 

[Salem13]

To elaborate: Is Jimmy "The Luper" Hayes too damaged ever to return as a Bruin?

 

[Pia8988]

To elaborate: Is Jimmy "The Luper" Hayes too damaged ever to return as a Bruin?

No, he only has 1 year left. I'd give him a shot in camp to compete for a slot, but have to be willing to waive him.

 

[PB37]

Disagree on the idea of brining Moore back (unless you unload Nash... don't want both)

but I like the idea of

Kuraly---JFK---Backes

as a 3rd line. Lots of size and Kuraly's speed offsets the slow Backes --who gets to be the vet ex-captain on the line. Backes essentially becomes a player coach for the 2 rookies.

Marchand-------------Bergeron-----Pastrnak
Heinen/Cehlarik------Krejci---------Trade Upgrade
Kuraly-----------------JFK-----------Backes
Blidh------------------Acciari-------Reaves/ J. Anderson clone
13-Nash​

That's my dream (realistic) forward line-up.

Young, fast, cheap. 3rd and 4th line take care of the of PKing duties, leaving lines 1 and 2 fresher to attack.

IMO, I don't think Kuraly is third line material. I think he's fine as a 4th liner/pk'er.

 

[tboothman]

Disagree on the idea of brining Moore back (unless you unload Nash... don't want both)

but I like the idea of

Kuraly---JFK---Backes

as a 3rd line. Lots of size and Kuraly's speed offsets the slow Backes --who gets to be the vet ex-captain on the line. Backes essentially becomes a player coach for the 2 rookies.

Marchand-------------Bergeron-----Pastrnak
Heinen/Cehlarik------Krejci---------Trade Upgrade
Kuraly-----------------JFK-----------Backes
Blidh------------------Acciari-------Reaves/ J. Anderson clone
13-Nash​

That's my dream (realistic) forward line-up.

Young, fast, cheap. 3rd and 4th line take care of the of PKing duties, leaving lines 1 and 2 fresher to attack.

I don't think Kuraly would jump right into the 3rd line. He is great 4th line material. Here is what I'd like to see.

Marchand --- Bergeron ---- Free Agent/Trade
Cehlarik ---- Krejci -------- Pastrnak
Vatrano ----- JFK/Czarnik ------ Backes
Kuraly ----- Nash ------ Acciari

Also would love to see Mcavoy heading up the PP1 unit and move Krug to Spooner's spot. Leaves the Bs with 2 killer one timer threats.

 

[Greek_physique]

Maybe I watched another series...but what exactly did C.Miller do that made him play unreal this series?

Yes, he did a good job...but I also saw a guy that still made careless mistakes in the defensive zone and gave up too many odd many rushes. Sure he came and recovered; but K.Miller is someone I want when the going gets tough.

He was a beast...too valuable to lose.

 

[DBL]

Maybe I watched another series...but what exactly did C.Miller do that made him play unreal this series?

Yes, he did a good job...but I also saw a guy that still made careless mistakes in the defensive zone and gave up too many odd many rushes. Sure he came and recovered; but K.Miller is someone I want when the going gets tough.

He was a beast...too valuable to lose.

Agree.

Give a 3-5 years and I think Colin will be put together, but as of now K.Miller is so much better, he's finally developed into a real solid player you can count on.

 

[Serge]

I agree here. I keep Kevin and expose Colin. Vegas will surely nab either of these guys if left exposed. But the Bs can get creative and offer Vegas a throwaway pick (5th or 6th rounder) if they don't take Colin.

 

[CptxMorgan]

Maybe I watched another series...but what exactly did C.Miller do that made him play unreal this series?

Yes, he did a good job...but I also saw a guy that still made careless mistakes in the defensive zone and gave up too many odd many rushes. Sure he came and recovered; but K.Miller is someone I want when the going gets tough.

He was a beast...too valuable to lose.

Yeah, was gonna say maybe they meant K. Miller. He was exceptional and really stepped it up not just in the postseason but in the regular season as well. I really like Chiller when he's on his game and looks like a superstar but those moments are few and far between. It's a hard decision but I think Killer is the guy to protect in the expansion draft.

 

[Dellstrom]

I agree here. I keep Kevin and expose Colin. Vegas will surely nab either of these guys if left exposed. But the Bs can get creative and offer Vegas a throwaway pick (5th or 6th rounder) if they don't take Colin.

I would have liked to see Chiller make more progress by now. I know he's still very young, but besides a few spurts of brilliance, he really doesn't impress me. He has a terrific shot but it seems as though he never uses it. Great skater, but still... Leaves a lot to be desired.

Kevan, on the other hand, earned his own safety. I was extremely critical of him and his contract, but if he keeps that play up, that contract will be a bargain. Having McAvoy, Krug, Carlo, and him in our d corps makes me feel good about next year and beyond.

 

[Serge]

Agree on Colin but he is worth keeping for his trade value alone. I think that other teams would take a chance on him because of his age, speed, and howitzer of a shot.

Kevan needs to stay but we need to find a way to protect Colin and at least get some value for him.

 

[Jdavidev]

I would have liked to see Chiller make more progress by now. I know he's still very young, but besides a few spurts of brilliance, he really doesn't impress me. He has a terrific shot but it seems as though he never uses it. Great skater, but still... Leaves a lot to be desired.

Kevan, on the other hand, earned his own safety. I was extremely critical of him and his contract, but if he keeps that play up, that contract will be a bargain. Having McAvoy, Krug, Carlo, and him in our d corps makes me feel good about next year and beyond.

Not too long ago, people where saying similar things about K Miller, that his mistakes far outweigh his attributes. Not that they are similar players, but this was C Miller's first real season. Tough to make definitive judgement on a D so early. That being said, it's up to Vegas, if they take C Miller or McQuaid.

 

[Jdavidev]

I don't think Kuraly would jump right into the 3rd line. He is great 4th line material. Here is what I'd like to see.

Marchand --- Bergeron ---- Free Agent/Trade
Cehlarik ---- Krejci -------- Pastrnak
Vatrano ----- JFK/Czarnik ------ Backes
Kuraly ----- Nash ------ Acciari

Also would love to see Mcavoy heading up the PP1 unit and move Krug to Spooner's spot. Leaves the Bs with 2 killer one timer threats.

Agree there with your F lineup. Though have to think DeBrusk and Heinen will get opportunities to challenge Vatrano and Cehlarik. Though, trading Beleskey might need to send one of them along to sweeten the pot.

Patrick Eaves might be a good stop gap RW until Senyshyn is ready for 2 years. Or Maybe Vanek.

 

[Fenway]

KPD has his own thoughts of who stays and who goes

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...uins-roster/fqs3kw0LkY1ed1fuqauJbN/story.html

It was the fourth overtime game in the series, the third OT loss for the Bruins, and they wrapped up their season with three straight playoff losses on Causeway Street for the first time since 1998 vs. the Capitals.

What’s old is new again, albeit with little comfort for a fan base now left craving playoff success for four seasons.

Since their exciting run to the 2013 Stanley Cup Final, the Bruins have won but one playoff round and twice (2015, 2016) did not qualify for the postseason. Along the way, they’ve canned the general manager, the coach, and, oh so quietly, even the physical therapist, all the while with ownership proclaiming the stage to be set for a “deep Cup run†in 2016-17.

Now comes the reset for October. We know the drill well here after one Cup in the last 45 years. Things will be changing. With training camp five months on the horizon, here is a look at the current roster and how it might look when everyone reports to Warrior Ice Arena in September:

 

[vjcsmoke]

Obviously gone:
-Hayes
-Belesky
-Stafford
-Khudobin
-Liles

Hopefully Gone/Cap Buyouts:
-Hayes
-Belesky
-Krejci. Hopefully traded for an upgrade elsewhere, such as on the blue line.

Lose a spot to a rookie:
-McAvoy is going to knock someone down the pecking order, just don't know who.

I think Vegas is taking:
-McQuaid or Morrow.

Surprised to see return:
-Spooner. I've given up on him, let's trade him while he's still worth something in return.
-Morrow. Just never took that next step in his development. Time to cut ties or trade him or maybe just expose him in the draft.

Another year of...
-Backes. That contract looks worse and worse.
-Chara. The Captain is aging but his contract is unmovable. It could be worse. At least he gives us a stable presence and continuity.

 

[Pia8988]

Obviously gone:
-Hayes
-Belesky
-Stafford
-Khudobin
-Liles

Hopefully Gone/Cap Buyouts:
-Hayes
-Belesky
-Krejci. Hopefully traded for an upgrade elsewhere, such as on the blue line.

Lose a spot to a rookie:
-McAvoy is going to knock someone down the pecking order, just don't know who.

I think Vegas is taking:
-McQuaid or Morrow.

Surprised to see return:
-Spooner. I've given up on him, let's trade him while he's still worth something in return.
-Morrow. Just never took that next step in his development. Time to cut ties or trade him or maybe just expose him in the draft.

Another year of...
-Backes. That contract looks worse and worse.
-Chara. The Captain is aging but his contract is unmovable. It could be worse. At least he gives us a stable presence and continuity.

What lunacy is this? He's going to have a cap hit of 4 million for 1 year and still played like a top 30 defenseman this year. In what world would that be unmovable?

 

[nmbr_24]

Obviously gone:
Liles
Stafford


Hopefully Gone/Cap Buyouts:
Spooner-He is going to cost more than he is worth. He is not a bottom 6 forward, he is not a good top 6 forward. He is a PP specialist. If only he could play a little better in his own end and win face offs at a reasonable rate he would possibly make Krejci and his contract expendable but that is not the case and he is due for a raise so it is time to cut ties with him.

Hayes
Belesky
Colin Miller

Lose a spot to a rookie:
Colin Miller
Hayes
Belesky



I think Vegas is taking:
McQuaid or Subban


Surprised to see return:
Moore

****, another year of...
Nash
Khudobin

 

[SPLBRUIN]

I would have liked to see Chiller make more progress by now. I know he's still very young, but besides a few spurts of brilliance, he really doesn't impress me. He has a terrific shot but it seems as though he never uses it. Great skater, but still... Leaves a lot to be desired.

Kevan, on the other hand, earned his own safety. I was extremely critical of him and his contract, but if he keeps that play up, that contract will be a bargain. Having McAvoy, Krug, Carlo, and him in our d corps makes me feel good about next year and beyond.

I feel the same way about both Miller's. K. Miller had a solid year and a great playoffs, he is a keeper, as for Colin Miller, great skater and shooter but doesn't produce much offense and he is only average defensively, I think he is lacking what they call hockey IQ.

 

[Southiechickie]

​

No, he only has 1 year left. I'd give him a shot in camp to compete for a slot, but have to be willing to waive him.

Hayes is gone this summer. There is no way they are going to give him another shot in camp. If they give anyone another chance it will be Beleskey considering his injury but Hayes is gone either by buy out or buried in PVD.

Like what posters are staying about Kevan Miller. Article in the Globe yesterday saying he was constantly working with a skills guy, can't remember his name to improve during the season. Like to read that kind of constant dedication in improving ones self. Other guys namely the 2 above might have taken some leasons!!!

 

[PlayMakers]

The way I'd like to see them look at things this summer is this...

Marsh - Bergeron - #1RW
#2LW - Krejci - Pastrnak
Vatrano - Backes - #3RW
Beleskey - Kuraly/Nash - Acciari

Chara - McAvoy
Krug - Carlo
#5D - C.Miller

Rask - #1bG

I'd let all of the UFA's walk. I liked them all to different degrees but you've got kids who can hopefully bring a little more life and drive to the team. So, candidates to fill the slots and roles listed above...

#1RW = In terms of style I think I'd like to see a power forward here. I feel like Marchand and Bergeron shoot more (and score more goals) when they play with heavy net front guy like Backes or even Connolly last year. I'm not sure there's an in-house option for this spot that's going to be ready next year either. Can DeBrusk play RW? It's probably not fair to expect Senyshyn to do it any sooner than 2 years but you never know. Sweeney has assets he could trade in Spooner and Colin Miller, I'd love to see him put his stamp on this team with a Wideman for Horton type deal and really solidify the identity he wants this team to play with.

#2LW = In my mind Cehlarik has the inside track here. He outscored DeBrusk in terms of points per game and he had fantastic chemistry with Krejci and Pasta.

#3RW = I think folks are forgetting about Czarnik, or at the very least, selling him short. He didn't have a very productive season but it was his first in the NHL. Reilly Smith came to the B's in a similar spot and folks didn't think anything of him either, then broke out in his second year. Another option would be to shift Vatrano to RW and look at DeBrusk. Bjork's a wild card here too.

#5D = The expansion draft makes this hard to predict. Does Vegas take Kevan Miller? Do they take Quaider? What if they pass on both and grab Morrow? I also think both O'Gara and Grzelcyk could be serviceable bottom pair guys next year and they're both lefties which fits well with Colin Miller.

#1bG = I really think they need someone who can play 30 games. Rask's become very inconsistent and whether that's because he's "tired" or "hurt" or whatever, I'm not crazy about Debby in that role. McIntyre has promise... He had a great year but he only played 30 games, is he ready? Is a competition between those two good enough to get it done or should they try to grab a Ryan Miller on a Recchi-like farewell contract?

 

[LSCII]

People have talked about Vatrano's dedication and discipline during the summer with work-outs and nutrition etc. There is no doubt in my mind that he will come back in top shape for camp. You have to think he knows he wasn't at full speed this year, he's the type of kid that wants to prove all the naysayers wrong. He has grit, something you cant teach!!

If Vatrano is contributing next year, it sure as **** better be more than grit.

The league is full of gritty players who can't score. Vatrano needs to dedicate himself to getting in better shape, and work on his offensive game. His shot is good, but not good enough to beat goalies from 40 feet out like he tried all year long. He's got to go to the dirty areas where his shot can actually do something.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

IMO, I don't think Kuraly is third line material. I think he's fine as a 4th liner/pk'er.

Yeah, agreed but my thinking on that is that if Kuraly and Acciari take spots on the 4th then we're likely to get No-Zone-Nash on the 3rd line... can't handle that so I'd rather have a size/speed upgrade there.

 

[Fonzerelli]

The way I'd like to see them look at things this summer is this...

Marsh - Bergeron - #1RW
#2LW - Krejci - Pastrnak
Vatrano - Backes - #3RW
Beleskey - Kuraly/Nash - Acciari

Chara - McAvoy
Krug - Carlo
#5D - C.Miller

Rask - #1bG

Looks pretty accurate to me.

I' like to see us fill that #1RW with a guy like Oshie, let Vatrano & DeBrusk battle it out for the 2nd and 3rd line LW and I wouldn't mind seeing Senyshyn/Cehlarik/Gabrielle/JFK/Heinen rotating from Providence to Boston and filling in that 3rd line RW until somebody sticks. I like your 4th line a lot.

#5D I'm pretty sure is Lauzon, but a revolving door from Providence with Lauzon/Zboril/O'Gara would be alright too.

I'm hoping McIntyre can fill that backup spot and stick here.

I'm not sold on Czarnik as a viable NHL player. I think he ends up being a Tommy Cross type vet in Providence for a few years.