2017/18 edition Bruins that will not be back for next season....

[Fenian24]

Not sure I give up on Spooner just yet. Talented player who still is developing. He will be cheap to resign and hopefully he increases his value if you do need to trade him next year at the deadline. He provides speed and offense which this team severely lacks. No sense in selling him when his value is low.
As well, we don't know the significance of injury. We are all thinking he was a 100% and scratched. Cassidy said that he wasn't.
As well, everyone wanted Beleskey in for Spooner. Well, Beleskey was invisible once again in a game that needed him.

Spooner could get 3 million plus in arbitration just based on numbers the past two years. I love his speed, I can't stand how easily he gives up on the puck, is pushed off the puck and is bad in his own zone. Can't use him on the wing if he is afraid to be hit and can't use him at center if he can't win a faceoff and is bad defensively. I don't want Belesky replacing Spooner, I want a better, bigger, meaner Belesky replacing Belesky. I want Spooner to compete and commit to being a complete player. If Bergeron and Krecji can he should be able watch the players ahead of him on the depth chart and style his game appropriately

 

[Dr Hook]

Spooner could get 3 million plus in arbitration just based on numbers the past two years. I love his speed, I can't stand how easily he gives up on the puck, is pushed off the puck and is bad in his own zone. Can't use him on the wing if he is afraid to be hit and can't use him at center if he can't win a faceoff and is bad defensively. I don't want Belesky replacing Spooner, I want a better, bigger, meaner Belesky replacing Belesky. I want Spooner to compete and commit to being a complete player. If Bergeron and Krecji can he should be able watch the players ahead of him on the depth chart and style his game appropriately

He's had 2 full seasons and parts of 2 more of being around Bergy and Krejci, had Backes this season to learn from too, and he hasn't really done anything with it. He is what he is it appears. Maybe some other team would like to pay him $3m over 4 years and try to wring some consistency and effort out of him. I would not like it to be us.

 

[Bruinsfan88]

Is there a date set for the expansion draft yet?

 

[Gee Wally]

Is there a date set for the expansion draft yet?

The 2017 NHL Expansion Draft is an expansion draft that will be conducted by the National Hockey League on June 18–20, 2017 to fill the roster of the upcoming Vegas Golden Knights. The team's selections will be announced on June 21 during the NHL Awards ceremony at T-Mobile Arena.

 

[Chiz1982]

Thanks for the comments everyone...

Jagr and Iggy were just examples, any FA that they feel is best fit with good production works for me.

If they can get Spooner back very cheap, despite his downsides... he might be worth keeping over a FA if we can get him for under 3 Mill, but cant see that happening.

Pastrnak is a stud, but obviously has some defensive issues, hopefully Sweeney can use that as leverage to maybe get the price down to $5 Mill a year.

Going to be tight cap wise this year, but if they do it right, they can get everyone we need back plus improve the team overall.

Dominic Moore is worth a $1 million if we can get him back I think, he was good throughout the season, alright at the dot and great on the PK.

 

[Number8]

Lineup next season

Marchand Bergeron Pasta
Cehlarik Krejci Senyshen
Kulary Backes Acciari
Debrusk Nash Blidh

Chara Mcavoy
Krug Carlo
K. Miller C. Miller

Rask
Mcintyre

That forward group is way too young and is basically a hope and a prayer that six rookies (for all intents) can pull a Charlie McAvoy. Hell, even McAvoy will have some bumps in the road next year.

That lineup guarantees missing playoffs IMO.

 

[whatsbruin]

Who I want gone

Hayes - Just go
Schaller - Not enough production
Spooner - Trade
McQuaid - Trade. Yes a warrior, but time to move on, especially with K. Miller emergence.
Moore - Take him or leave him.
Nash - Last month Nash keep, first 6 month Nash No.
Stafford - Okay for a return, for 3rd line only.
Beleskey - Short leash. Track his training over the summer. Don't like what you see dump him.
Liles - Gone
Morrow - Do him a favor and trade him. They don't play him. Do the right thing.

Put the best youngin on a line with Bergy and March.
Get a speedy true top 6 winger to go with DK and Pasternak.
3rd line of Vatrano - Beleskey - Stafford
4th - Kuraly - Nash - Accari

 

[bolt thrower]

Hayes, Beleskey, Schaller and Liles need to go. I would even add some picks for Hayes and Beleskey.

Nash, Spooner, Stafford, Vatrano and Morrow can go to. Would only sign Stafford if he comes really cheap. Nash is just not good enough.

I will miss McQuaid but I guess there's no space left for him on defence, especially with the emergence of McAvoy.

I would keep Moore if he comes cheap, he's still a great 4th liner and combined with Kuraly and Acciari we will have a good 4th line.

What we desperately need is secondary scoring and please, put Backes center on the 3rd line.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Categories/ Template:

Obviously gone:

Hayes
Spooner




Hopefully Gone/Cap Buyouts:

Beleskey




Lose a spot to a rookie:

Vatrano



I think Vegas is taking:

McQuaid



Surprised to see return:

Morrow (trade)
Moore (retire)





****, another year of...

Nash (not that upset about it)

See above.

 

[TimmytheTank]

Lineup next season

Marchand Bergeron Pasta
Cehlarik Krejci Senyshen
Kulary Backes Acciari
Debrusk Nash Blidh

Chara Mcavoy
Krug Carlo
K. Miller C. Miller

Rask
Mcintyre

Crazy how much more comfortable with that defensive line-up now than I would have been prior to this playoff series. Absence makes the heart grow fonder I guess. Funny, Just last off season I thought we needed help on D, whereas now we really need some wingers to fill out the top-6.

 

[LSCII]

People are devaluing Spooner here. He may not be as good a player as you'd like but he's still got value. Offering him to Vegas to eat a contract is asset mismanagement at it's finest. That's crap that Peter Chiarelli would do, and that's one reason why they ended up in a rebuild instead of a sustained window of cup contention.

You don't think Spooner is a long term solution, then you trade Spooner for some other asset. Preferably a pick. You don't give him away just to get an expansion team to eat a marginally bad salary like Beleskey. That's just dumb.

 

[LSCII]

Spooner could get 3 million plus in arbitration just based on numbers the past two years. I love his speed, I can't stand how easily he gives up on the puck, is pushed off the puck and is bad in his own zone. Can't use him on the wing if he is afraid to be hit and can't use him at center if he can't win a faceoff and is bad defensively. I don't want Belesky replacing Spooner, I want a better, bigger, meaner Belesky replacing Belesky. I want Spooner to compete and commit to being a complete player. If Bergeron and Krecji can he should be able watch the players ahead of him on the depth chart and style his game appropriately

This is exactly right. You can dislike his game, but he's going to get a raise in arbitration based on his numbers. No question about it.

 

[whatsbruin]

You don't think Spooner is a long term solution, then you trade Spooner for some other asset. Preferably a pick.

They have enough prospects coming up in the next few years.
Trade him for immediate help in the top 6. Spooner + McQuaid/Morrow + pick for top 6. Hopefully Sweeney can sell Spooner as the real deal and Morrow as starting to develop.

 

[LSCII]

They have enough prospects coming up in the next few years.
Trade him for immediate help in the top 6. Spooner + McQuaid/Morrow + pick for top 6. Hopefully Sweeney can sell Spooner as the real deal and Morrow as starting to develop.

If you can get someone to do that, sure. Not really convinced that it would happen though. The other problem is that with pro talent evaluation, this team has gotten bent over in their recent history. Need to revamp the pro scouting department, IMO.

 

[DKH]

I like Spooner but they are going to move him

You think that they will pay him 3 times what he makes after game 5 & 6 scratches and JFK on deck

0.0 he is here

JFK signed because he's getting that spot

Moore will be back for one year and Kuraly & Backes offer center protection for JFK

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

I am surprised at all the people giving up on Vatrano.

He has been in the league for just over 1 season, had no training camp, was injured missed the first 1/2 of the season and in 44 games scored a very respectable 10 goals. HE was one of the only Bruins who actually made contact with Erik Karlsson.

What Vatrano needs a center who can feed him the puck. The kid will score 20+ goals.

 

[Chieftans22]

I am surprised at all the people giving up on Vatrano.

He has been in the league for just over 1 season, had no training camp, was injured missed the first 1/2 of the season and in 44 games scored a very respectable 10 goals. HE was one of the only Bruins who actually made contact with Erik Karlsson.

What Vatrano needs a center who can feed him the puck. The kid will score 20+ goals.

Agreed here. Vatrano wasn't a drag on the ice much. I thought Riley Nash was making more "what the hell man" plays out there every shift in the series.

 

[LSCII]

I am surprised at all the people giving up on Vatrano.

He has been in the league for just over 1 season, had no training camp, was injured missed the first 1/2 of the season and in 44 games scored a very respectable 10 goals. HE was one of the only Bruins who actually made contact with Erik Karlsson.

What Vatrano needs a center who can feed him the puck. The kid will score 20+ goals.

Personally, the biggest red flag I saw out of him this year was his effort. It was poor to non existent for long stretches this year. Mistakes and bad plays I can live with from a young guy, but poor effort is not,

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

Personally, the biggest red flag I saw out of him this year was his effort. It was poor to non existent for long stretches this year. Mistakes and bad plays I can live with from a young guy, but poor effort is not,

Fair enough.

Doesn't mean he can't fix that part of his game. Bruins need scoring, Vatrano can score.

 

[Central Scrutinizer]

Agreed here. Vatrano wasn't a drag on the ice much. I thought Riley Nash was making more "what the hell man" plays out there every shift in the series.

I thought Nash had a good series.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

I like Spooner but they are going to move him

You think that they will pay him 3 times what he makes after game 5 & 6 scratches and JFK on deck

0.0 he is here

JFK signed because he's getting that spot

Moore will be back for one year and Kuraly & Backes offer center protection for JFK

Disagree on the idea of brining Moore back (unless you unload Nash... don't want both)

but I like the idea of

Kuraly---JFK---Backes

as a 3rd line. Lots of size and Kuraly's speed offsets the slow Backes --who gets to be the vet ex-captain on the line. Backes essentially becomes a player coach for the 2 rookies.

Marchand-------------Bergeron-----Pastrnak
Heinen/Cehlarik------Krejci---------Trade Upgrade
Kuraly-----------------JFK-----------Backes
Blidh------------------Acciari-------Reaves/ J. Anderson clone
13-Nash​

That's my dream (realistic) forward line-up.

Young, fast, cheap. 3rd and 4th line take care of the of PKing duties, leaving lines 1 and 2 fresher to attack.

 

[bruinmann77]

Nash is signed to two years so he back
but Liels and Morrow
Hayes Moore and belesky and i guess Spooner unless they can trade him.

 

[rainone99]

This is what I think will happen, not what I want to happen...

Gone by Trade, Expansion, Buyout or by UFA

Hayes, Beleskey, Moore, Liles, Khudobin, Mcquaid, Spooner, C Miller, Vatrano

Resigned

Tim Schaller, Drew Stafford

New Players,

Jake Debrusk, JFK, Charlie McAvoy, Danton Heinen or Peter Cehlarik


Marchand Bergeron Stafford
Debrusk Krejci Pastrnak
Heinen JFK Backes
Kuraly Nash Acciari
Schaller

Chara McAvoy
Krug Carlo
TRADE K Miller
Morrow

Rask
Subban/McIntyre

 

[Southiechickie]

Fair enough.

Doesn't mean he can't fix that part of his game. Bruins need scoring, Vatrano can score.

People have talked about Vatrano's dedication and discipline during the summer with work-outs and nutrition etc. There is no doubt in my mind that he will come back in top shape for camp. You have to think he knows he wasn't at full speed this year, he's the type of kid that wants to prove all the naysayers wrong. He has grit, something you cant teach!!

 

[Mantis]

Who I want gone

Hayes - Just go
Schaller - Not enough production
Spooner - Trade
McQuaid - Trade. Yes a warrior, but time to move on, especially with K. Miller emergence.
Moore - Take him or leave him.
Nash - Last month Nash keep, first 6 month Nash No.
Stafford - Okay for a return, for 3rd line only.
Beleskey - Short leash. Track his training over the summer. Don't like what you see dump him.
Liles - Gone
Morrow - Do him a favor and trade him. They don't play him. Do the right thing.

Put the best youngin on a line with Bergy and March.
Get a speedy true top 6 winger to go with DK and Pasternak.
3rd line of Vatrano - Beleskey - Stafford
4th - Kuraly - Nash - Accari

Beleskey is not a center....