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Big Phil said:
Yes, I am sure MacKinnon and McDavid and co. have dreamed their whole lives to play on the Under 23 North American team. They probably can't wait to beat their own country at their own game.

Honestly, the silence the media has on this tournament and the illegitimate nature of it is staggering.
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[YEAR 2020, AIR CANADA CENTRE]

AND THE UNDER 23 NORTH AMERICA TEAM HAS WON THE WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Final score: Under 23 North America 5, Rest of Europe 2! Remarkable effort by Rest of Europe but these young lads from Under 23 North America proved to tough for the mish-mash of marketable European players!

Yes, indeed, Jim. I have to say Rest of Europe has a great future ahead of it with great stars like Anze Kopitar, Michael Raffl, Michael Grabner, Zemgus Girgensons leading the way with such underdogs who climbed the NHL ranks to earn their respect like Kaspars Daugavins and Andong Song?

Yes, Chinese superstar Andong Song who was deemed eligible to play for Rest of Europe as the NHL ruled that since Hong Kong was under British rule during 1842-1997 and seeing as how he was born in 1997, he was suitable to play for Rest of Europe! 1 goal and 1 assist tonight for Andong Song, who lead the tournament in assists. But his effort was for naught.

Wasn't Song born in Beijing, Jim?

Shut up, Craig.
 
Reverend Mayhem said:
[YEAR 2020, AIR CANADA CENTRE]

AND THE UNDER 23 NORTH AMERICA TEAM HAS WON THE WORLD CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Final score: Under 23 North America 5, Rest of Europe 2! Remarkable effort by Rest of Europe but these young lads from Under 23 North America proved to tough for the mish-mash of marketable European players!

Yes, indeed, Jim. I have to say Rest of Europe has a great future ahead of it with great stars like Anze Kopitar, Michael Raffl, Michael Grabner, Zemgus Girgensons leading the way with such underdogs who climbed the NHL ranks to earn their respect like Kaspars Daugavins and Andong Song?

Yes, Chinese superstar Andong Song who was deemed eligible to play for Rest of Europe as the NHL ruled that since Hong Kong was under British rule during 1842-1997 and seeing as how he was born in 1997, he was suitable to play for Rest of Europe! 1 goal and 1 assist tonight for Andong Song, who lead the tournament in assists. But his effort was for naught.

Wasn't Song born in Beijing, Jim?

Shut up, Craig.
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Hadn't even considered the possibility of this team winning. Gotta pull for them now. Egg on the face of the NHL. They gonna play both anthems? What if they beat the US or Canada?
 
Horvat is absolutely 100% going to be the 4th line center on this team. He is exactly the type of player they need on the 4th line.

Massive faceoff wins, great two way player, can chip in, good on the PK, He can do everything.
 
Never gonna win World Cup next year. It is Team Canada, Sweden or USA I knows.
 
Lucbourdon said:
Horvat is absolutely 100% going to be the 4th line center on this team. He is exactly the type of player they need on the 4th line.

Massive faceoff wins, great two way player, can chip in, good on the PK, He can do everything.
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Biased much?

MacKinnon, McDavid, Eichel, Monahan, Strome, Nugent-Hopkins, Galchenyuk, Jenner, Scheifele, Couturier.




Nope. Not close.
 
TheFatOne said:
This is silly....:laugh:

But here we go:

Drouin - MacKinnon - Galchenyuk
Huberdeau - Monahan - Gaudreau
Eichel - McDavid - Larkin
Duclair - RNH - Domi

Rielly - Ekblad
Trouba - Jones
Murray - Hamilton

Gibson
Fucale


Can this team win the whole thing?

Discuss and make your own rosters.
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Not a bad roster, but one problem. By the time this rolls around, Nuge will already be 23, so he's probably not eligible.
 
I understand there will be a quota system. That's unfortunate. Better to take the High Road.
 
Rabid Ranger said:
Say what's on your mind. After all, it's just your opinion and must be accepted as fact until proven otherwise. Did I get that right?
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All I'm saying is there should be NO quota. It is stupid and players should be picked strictly on their play. Besides, it's a slippery slope - one poster, believe it or not, has already suggesting a 60/40 split.

I think the League should take the High Road and have no quota system. Sadly, that won't happen.
 
OttawaRoughRiderFan said:
All I'm saying is there should be NO quota. It is stupid and players should be picked strictly on their play. Besides, it's a slippery slope - one poster, believe it or not, has already suggesting a 60/40 split.

I think the League should take the High Road and have no quota system. Sadly, that won't happen.
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Why shouldn't there be a quota? It's a **** tournament and whatever American players are on the team can be justified.
 
23Monahan23 said:
Strome-Galchunyuk-Huberdeau (experience line)
Gaudreau-Monahan-Forsberg (Flame connection)
Droiun-Hopkins-Mckinnion (Moosehead connection)
Bjugstad-Eichel-Mcdavid (1 and 2 in 2015 plus experience)


Jones-Hamilton (Offensive player with shutdown player)
Rielly-Trouba (Offensive player with shutdown player)
Murry-Ekblad ( Beast of Ekblad with more experienced murry)

Gibson
Anyone else
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Bjugstad is a 92 ineligible.

Here is my team

RNH McDavid Mackinnon
Saad Monahan Gaudreau
Huberdeau Eichel Strome
Jenner Couturier Scheifele

Spares – Galchenyuk, Drouin, Lazar, Reinhart, Bennett

Rielly Trouba
Jones Hamilton
Murray Ekblad

Spares – Severson, Ceci, Dumba

Gibson
Pickard

Mcdavid and RNH both have the hockey sense and ability to switch from lw to c and vise versa, both have tremendous talent and might be familiar with one another at that point.

I thought about putting Drouin with Mackinnon but JD has not proved enough in my books to make the top 12 yet. He very well could end up with 70+ points next year and a lock to be on the team but until proven otherwise he will remain in the spares section.

Huberdeau and Strome has showed great chemistry in the past.

Eichel and Mcdavid are just that good and will make the team.

The 4th line is a true shut down line and this team will need all the size and strength it can get.

The D core is actually really good and I think compared to the competition might be the teams greatest positional strength.

Gibson will have to get hot.
 
Rabid Ranger said:
Why shouldn't there be a quota?.
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Why should there be?

The U23 team should be filled by players who EARN a spot. Send the best players (based on accomplishments within the NHL) and forget an "Operation Bootstrap" quota.

I bet you're worried about Jack Eichel, right? Well, if Jack Eichel doesn't produce numbers to justify him being there, he should NOT be there. Having said that, we all know he'll play because U.S.A. Hockey will ensure he is pushed to the front of the line.

On the other hand, if McDavid doesn't earn a spot, I am happy to leave him at home. As always, I, like Hockey Canada, am willing to take the High Road.

Rabid Ranger said:
It's a **** tournament and whatever American players are on the team can be justified.
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By whom? By Rabid Ranger and American Dream? By U.S.A. Hockey? By Brian Burke or Lou Lamoriello? Come on. There needs to be some objectivity.

Besides, I can see it now... Jack Eichel stats aren't good enough to be on the team but the usual suspects will have a long list of excuses such as:

* Did you see who he had to play with in Buffalo?
* Sure his stats weren't very good but I watched him every night and he deserves a spot on the team because I say so.
* He's a generational talent and therefore needs to be put ahead of people who EARNED a spot.
* Sam Reinhart is a year older so him outplaying Jack Eichel doesn't count.
* I won't watch unless he plays.
* He won the Hanna Barbera award in U.S. College Hockey.

There should be NO quotas at all. Just go by the numbers. Put together a statistical criteria that measures a player based on their NHL play, have a cut off that gives you 30(?) players to choose from, and plug in those kids. If that means, at the end of the day there are 23 Canada (or 23 American) kids because they EARNED it, so be it.

I'm willing to let the numbers talk, take politics out of the equation and input the players who EARNED a spot.
(Not) Surprisingly, it sounds like you're not.
 
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Johnny Gaudreau - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Nathan MacKinnon

Brandon Saad - Connor McDavid - Dylan Larkin

Alex Galchenyuk - Jack Eichel - Ryan Strome

Jonathan Huberdeau - Sean Monahan - Mark Scheifele

Boone Jenner


Morgan Rielly - Aaron Ekblad
Seth Jones - Colton Parayko
Damon Severson - Jacob Trouba

Dougie Hamilton


John Gibson
Connor Hellebuyck
Matt Murray
 
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There should be a few more guys with size on offense. There is still body contact in this tournament.
 
OttawaRoughRiderFan said:
Why should there be?

The U23 team should be filled by players who EARN a spot. Send the best players (based on accomplishments within the NHL) and forget an "Operation Bootstrap" quota.

I bet you're worried about Jack Eichel, right? Well, if Jack Eichel doesn't produce numbers to justify him being there, he should NOT be there. Having said that, we all know he'll play because U.S.A. Hockey will ensure he is pushed to the front of the line.

On the other hand, if McDavid doesn't earn a spot, I am happy to leave him at home. As always, I, like Hockey Canada, am willing to take the High Road.


By whom? By Rabid Ranger and American Dream? By U.S.A. Hockey? By Brian Burke or Lou Lamoriello? Come on. There needs to be some objectivity.

Besides, I can see it now... Jack Eichel stats aren't good enough to be on the team but the usual suspects will have a long list of excuses such as:

* Did you see who he had to play with in Buffalo?
* Sure his stats weren't very good but I watched him every night and he deserves a spot on the team because I say so.
* He's a generational talent and therefore needs to be put ahead of people who EARNED a spot.
* Sam Reinhart is a year older so him outplaying Jack Eichel doesn't count.
* I won't watch unless he plays.
* He won the Hanna Barbera award in U.S. College Hockey.

There should be NO quotas at all. Just go by the numbers. Put together a statistical criteria that measures a player based on their NHL play, have a cut off that gives you 30(?) players to choose from, and plug in those kids. If that means, at the end of the day there are 23 Canada (or 23 American) kids because they EARNED it, so be it.

I'm willing to let the numbers talk, take politics out of the equation and input the players who EARNED a spot.
(Not) Surprisingly, it sounds like you're not.
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Congrats. You're the only one who cares about a potential quota for a U23 roster for the WCH.
 
I think we are getting to the point that the NHL wanted the fans to get to. In other words, there are many people mentioning the format of the 2016 World Cup and not seeing anything wrong with it anymore. Now that's scary that it has come to this.
 
I don't like a quota system but understand why it's needed. Fortunately there's enough good and deserving players on both sides. You can not have a team of 15 Canadians and 5 Americans or 15 Americans and 5 Canadians representing NA.

I still think the idea of a rest of Europe team and a junior NA team is ****ing stupid. Only in Garys NHL:shakehead

and it should still be called the Canada Cup!!!!!
 
There is no need for a "quota". Simply take the best players.

This is the best roster right now: (if September 1992 - when the tournament starts - is the limit, [U-24])
*) players that wouldn't make the team if Sep 1993 is the limit [U-23], with (*) players that are born in 1992

FORWARDS:
Brandon Saad* - Connor McDavid - Nathan MacKinnon
Jonathan Huberdeau - Sean Monahan - Johnny Gaudreau
Alex Galchenyuk - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins- Jack Eichel
Boone Jenner - Sean Couturier* - Mark Scheifele
Ryan Strome, Sam Bennett/Jonathan Drouin..

DEFENCEMEN:
Morgan Rielly - Seth Jones
Jacob Trouba - Dougie Hamilton
Ryan Murray - Aaron Ekblad
Darnell Nurse, Jamie Oleksiak*

GOALTENDERS:
Connor Hellebuyck, John Gibson, Malcolm Subban

I doubt they will cut it to U-23, because then we would lose a bunch of great players and mainly #1 and #2 goaltenders which would be really bad.

Here's 8 americans, 17 canadians.
 
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Seeing these rosters (which are for a team that is an absolute joke) just makes me increasingly angry at Steve Spott. Couldn't win the WJC with Subban, Hamilton, Rielly, Nugent, MacKinnon, Drouin, Huberdeau, Strome, Scheifele, Jenner? Couldn't be bothered to pick Monahan? Just great.
 
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