World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team North America

[GTA]

That D will get muscled around with ease. I would suggest they bring a guy like Samuel Morin who should have 1 full NHL season under his belt (2015-2016 season) by then. They will need his size, grit, and penalty-killing.

Sam Morin? I'm guessing its not a coincidence that you see a flaw that you think Team Canada could solve by adding your favorite team's prospect...

The issue is that Morin is not that good and would be a step down from pretty much every D man listed so far.

 

[leafsfuture]

As much as having these all-star teams removes a lot of the tournaments legitimacy, I am becoming excited as heck for this.

I can just imagine Mackinnon, Jones, Trouba and co wanting to show their countries they belong there. The teams will probably get worked by Canada/USA/Russia/Sweden, but I could definitely see an upset over Finland and Czech, as well as them beating the All-Europe team

 

[Big Phil]

As much as having these all-star teams removes a lot of the tournaments legitimacy, I am becoming excited as heck for this.

I can just imagine Mackinnon, Jones, Trouba and co wanting to show their countries they belong there. The teams will probably get worked by Canada/USA/Russia/Sweden, but I could definitely see an upset over Finland and Czech, as well as them beating the All-Europe team

Yes, I am sure MacKinnon and McDavid and co. have dreamed their whole lives to play on the Under 23 North American team. They probably can't wait to beat their own country at their own game.

Honestly, the silence the media has on this tournament and the illegitimate nature of it is staggering.

 

[The Sweetness]

Can players under 23 still be selected to Canada or USA senior teams if they are good enough?

 

[Jussi]

Can players under 23 still be selected to Canada or USA senior teams if they are good enough?

U-23 team has first rights, so if they aren't "good enough", then they could be on their national teams.

 

[The Sweetness]

U-23 team has first rights, so if they aren't "good enough", they they could be on their national teams.

If they aren't good enough for the U-23 then they are available for the national teams? How would they be good enough for the national team if they can't make the U-23?

 

[xxxx]

If they aren't good enough for the U-23 then they are available for the national teams? How would they be good enough for the national team if they can't make the U-23?

of course, that just can't happen.

 

[leafsfuture]

Yes, I am sure MacKinnon and McDavid and co. have dreamed their whole lives to play on the Under 23 North American team. They probably can't wait to beat their own country at their own game.

Honestly, the silence the media has on this tournament and the illegitimate nature of it is staggering.

I can only speak from experience.

I was cut from a team on which I was the captain 3 years prior. Later that year I got to play my old team in a tournament. Without a doubt the most motivated I ever was. I would love to say I scored the game winner... I didn't, but it was one of my better games for sure. From my own opinion I was the best player on the ice

Let me tell you a secret. All this "I dreamt of representing my country" stuff, its a lot of BS. You dream to play in the biggest games in the world, and dominate those games. The jersey... it doesn't matter. Its about you, your teammates, and the guys on the other team.

Anyone who says they jersey is greater than your own personal desire hasn't played the game

 

[Canuckistani]

I can just imagine Mackinnon, Jones, Trouba and co wanting to show their countries they belong there.

But we already know that they belong there. In fact they'd all probably be on their respective national teams if only they were allowed.

 

[The Sweetness]

As much as having these all-star teams removes a lot of the tournaments legitimacy, I am becoming excited as heck for this.

I can just imagine Mackinnon, Jones, Trouba and co wanting to show their countries they belong there. The teams will probably get worked by Canada/USA/Russia/Sweden, but I could definitely see an upset over Finland and Czech, as well as them beating the All-Europe team

But if I understand correctly they are actually ineligible for the national teams if the U-23 wants to select them.

Is this the case?

 

[Jablkon]

U-23 team has first rights, so if they aren't "good enough", they they could be on their national teams.

That's a mess.....

 

[JackSlater]

But if I understand correctly they are actually ineligible for the national teams if the U-23 wants to select them.

Is this the case?

Yeah it's not like they are being snubbed. MacKinnon could win the Art Ross next year, Jones the Norris and McDavid the Hart and they would all still be on the U23 Young Gunz.

 

[Jablkon]

Yeah it's not like they are being snubbed. MacKinnon could win the Art Ross next year, Jones the Norris and McDavid the Hart and they would all still be on the U23 Young Gunz.

So am I understand clear that there will be just 4 regular national teams + Canada O23, USA O23, NA U23 and Europe all stars?

So the extreme attempt to making best possible best of best is turning opposite to weaken two teams.....

it is really really hard to find any rationale behind this tournament....

 

[Deevo]

So am I understand clear that there will be just 4 regular national teams + Canada O23, USA O23, NA U23 and Europe all stars?

So the extreme attempt to making best possible best of best is turning opposite to weaken two teams.....

it is really really hard to find any rationale behind this tournament....

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[JackSlater]

So am I understand clear that there will be just 4 regular national teams + Canada O23, USA O23, NA U23 and Europe all stars?

So the extreme attempt to making best possible best of best is turning opposite to weaken two teams.....

it is really really hard to find any rationale behind this tournament....

Yes, exactly. In addition to the two joke teams, Canada and USA are not actually at full capacity. It's a ridiculous idea for a tournament. The joke teams are the worst part, but I have the Young Gunz stealing players from their actual national teams. A few months ago I went through old Canada Cup/Olympic teams for Canada and removed players 23 and under. In some cases the difference was pretty drastic and would have certainly swung tournament results. In 2016 USA could be significantly weakened by this idea.

 

[1Gold Standard]

Yes, exactly. In addition to the two joke teams, Canada and USA are not actually at full capacity. It's a ridiculous idea for a tournament. The joke teams are the worst part, but I have the Young Gunz stealing players from their actual national teams. A few months ago I went through old Canada Cup/Olympic teams for Canada and removed players 23 and under. In some cases the difference was pretty drastic and would have certainly swung tournament results. In 2016 USA could be significantly weakened by this idea.

It does blow holes in the arguments by some re: previous international tournaments, the NHL caters to a N. American audience and will do whatever it takes to get the dream final, Canada v USA.

I hope it's a Europe Leftovers and Finland final. should make for a real T.V. ratings bonanza. I'll laugh myself silly if that's what unfolds. Not that I'll be watching 1 minute of this tournament anyway.

 

[Jussi]

It does blow holes in the arguments by some re: previous international tournaments, the NHL caters to a N. American audience and will do whatever it takes to get the dream final, Canada v USA.

I hope it's a Europe Leftovers and Finland final. should make for a real T.V. ratings bonanza. I'll laugh myself silly if that's what unfolds. Not that I'll be watching 1 minute of this tournament anyway.

Yah, I don't think there's much chance of that happening. There's good gance our most experienced players will be skipping out on this plus we don't even know who will be in charge of the team. Our corrent national team coach's contract runs out after next year's Worlds and if we get a another result like this year, he might be gone.

 

[xxxx]

Eichel on making the 2016 YoungStars team: “It’s cool that the World Cup of Hockey is coming back, and I think it would be a great experience. There’s a lot of good players in the NHL. It would be a huge honour, but it’s a long way out.”

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...nhl-draft-buffalo-sabres-boston-university-2/

 

[FiLe]

So we have Jack Eichel going through the motions... where's the news?

 

[ItsTheBGB]

So which anthem and flag do we see if they win something?

I vote for the Champions League theme song. Crowd fund to pay Uefa royalties!

 

[sjci]

Vasilevsky is going to be the obvious starter, correct? Or are we looking at a Gibson split also?

 

[1Gold Standard]

Vasilevsky is going to be the obvious starter, correct? Or are we looking at a Gibson split also?

The North American YoungGunz team is for North American players, i.e. Canada/USA. I think the Russian Hockey Federation would be pissed if this tournament poached one of its 3 goaltenders, quite possibly their #2.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

...I think there is enough American talent to make it a 60/40...

Surprise, surprise.

Sportsnet's projected roster:

Brandon Saad (23)- Nathan MacKinnon (20)- Jonathan Drouin (21)

Sean Monahan (21)- Connor McDavid (19)- Ryan Strome (23)

Alex Galchenyuk (22)- Jack Eichel (19)- Johnny Gaudreau (23)

Boone Jenner (23)- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (23)- Mark Scheifele (23)

Sean Couturier (23)
Max Domi (21)

On the bubble: Jonathan Huberdeau, Bo Horvat, Linden Vey, Curtis Lazar, Matthew Nieto, Sam Reinhart, Anthony Duclair


Morgan Rielly (22) - Aaron Ekblad (20)
Seth Jones (21) - Jacob Trouba (22)
Morgan Rielly (22) - Dougie Hamilton (23)

Ryan Murray(22) - Mathew Dumba (22)
Damon Severson (22) - Cody Ceci (22)

On the bubble: Noah Hanifin, Griffin Reinhart, Nathan Beaulieu, Darnell Nurse, Jamie Oleksiak



John Gibson (22)
Malcolm Subban (22)
Calvin Pickard (23)

On the bubble: Zachary Fucale, Eric Comrie, J.F. Berube, Thatcher Demko, Connor Hellebuyck

(Note: Player's age as of Sept. 17, 2016 is listed in brackets.)

This roster seems right with a 70/30 split and most of the bubble players, minus the goalies, Canadian.

 

[Sipak4]

I saw Sweeden-Finnish U23, so I made Czechoslovakian U23

Jaskin-Hertl-Pastrnak
Vrana-Nosek-Dano
Reway-Simon-Jurco
Zacha-Faksa-Uher

Gernat-Mozik
Musil-Janosik
Doudera-Kostalek
Ceresnak-Pavelka

Bartosak
Machovsky

 

[23Monahan23]

Strome-Galchunyuk-Huberdeau (experience line)
Gaudreau-Monahan-Forsberg (Flame connection)
Droiun-Hopkins-Mckinnion (Moosehead connection)
Bjugstad-Eichel-Mcdavid (1 and 2 in 2015 plus experience)


Jones-Hamilton (Offensive player with shutdown player)
Rielly-Trouba (Offensive player with shutdown player)
Murry-Ekblad ( Beast of Ekblad with more experienced murry)

Gibson
Anyone else