World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Sweden Part II

[jfc64]

LOL what?

Do you disagree, do you say this forward group is better than P.Forsberg, Sundin, Alfie, Näslund etc in their prime?

"I disagree, I say" (wildly imitating an english law man). We have better depth players! Better MINDSET overall. No one was better than Mats Sundin on international surface. Everyone knows that, but even he needed a team, four lines. Näslund and Alfie were seldom impact players. Alfredsson was at best as "old".

This may not have anything to do with your post but my guess is that forwards now will FEEL the precense of this super defense...

Let's see how bad the Sedins and Zetterberg are going to be first, shall we? And one or two younger players might have a breakthru. Overall I disagree, I say...

 

[helax]

Landeskog - Backström - Forsberg
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Hagelin-Söderberg- Zetterberg
Rakell-Silfverberg-Hörnqvist
Kruger


Hedman - Strålman
OEL - Karlsson
Ekholm - Hjalmarsson
Kronwall

Silfverberg is no center, better to switch him with Rakell who has played center with the Ducks. I hope your D constellation is used, i doubt it thou.

 

[Tomas W]

No, no, no! You want to exclude our few physical players? Rakell has a very important role to play as Steens replacement.

Maybe Rakell, but not Ekholm. OEL was in that 'prepare early' roster. If Ekholm was thought to be in the staring lineup, then why wait to select him? Btw OEL is to good to be left out. Im pretty sure there is meant to be 1 offensive plus one defensive defenseman in each D pair. I dont think the size matter that much to the Swedish side, its the overall ability that matters. Of course one can question Kronwall in that sense but he probably in it because his experience and name.

 

[jfc64]

Maybe Rakell, but not Ekholm. OEL was in that 'prepare early' roster. If Ekholm was thought to be in the starting lineup, then why wait to select him? Btw OEL is to good to be left out. Im pretty sure there is meant to be 1 offensive plus one defensive defenseman in each D pair. I dont think the size matter that much to the Swedish side, its the overall ability that matters. Of course one can question Kronwall in that sense but he probably in it because his experience and name.

I'm not saying I want to leave out OEL. An idea is that he steps in full time as soon as we feel Mother Russia might not be beaten. Which puts a little pressure on Ekholm, Strålman and Kronwall. Not sure, though if we can have 12 forwards and seven defenders on the team that plays the game.

I don't think Kronwall was chosen because of his name.

I've been thinking about the inclusions of Kronwall and Krüger and I feel Greenberg have a vision of us playing well at the start of an attack. Just where we have our advantage with skilled defenders.

The (Steens), Landeskogs and Rakells are important in other respects.

You can still have one offensive plus one defensive defensemen even with Ekholm as starter. Actually I suspect Ekholm was chosen over Lindholm because of him being 7-8 kg heavier.

And if you look at the american defense they are HUGE...but that might be their strategy...

 

[Tomas W]

Ekholm is not bad offensively, but it would be incredibly rude to leave OEL out.

And its not like Ekholm is a hard hitting juggernaut anyways. You focus too much on size. So the Americans are big. Good for them, then we have to outskate them instead.

Scariest American is Kane and he's not particulary big.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Ekman-Larsson is a top 10 defenseman in the world, no reason to excluse him.

As for the team in general: sure the team doesn't have Foppa or Sudden as high-end players, but the forward depth is better than ever and the defense is ridicolously good.

 

[jfc64]

Ekholm is not bad offensively, but it would be incredibly rude to leave OEL out.

And its not like Ekholm is a hard hitting juggernaut anyways. You focus too much on size. So the Americans are big. Good for them, then we have to outskate them instead.

Scariest American is Kane and he's not particulary big.

You try to achieve a good balance...RUDE? Did you get my point with waiting one period and a half?

Kane will be extra good now with all the size...

 

[jfc64]

Ekman-Larsson is a top 10 defenseman in the world, no reason to excluse him.

As for the team in general: sure the team doesn't have Foppa or Sudden as high-end players, but the forward depth is better than ever and the defense is ridicolously good.

Sure there's no Foppa or Sudden (but I'm confident with Bäckström). Normally we would have the players below but since the Sedins and Zetterberg are still "good" for another two years what should we do? Right now we are not spitzenklasse on forward but at least we are three "oldies" up!

"No-star" forward "normal times" crew: (might require a different strategy)

Steen - Bäckström - Forsberg
Landeskog - Söderberg - Eriksson / Hörnqvist
Rakell / Hagelin - Rask - Lindholm / Nyquist
Johansson - Zibanejad / Backlund - Silfverberg
Krüger / Wennberg / Berglund

= DEEP (and migt have meant more chances for breakthru)

Basically Rask, Lindholm and Zibanejad instead of Sedins and Z.

 

[Tomas W]

You try to achieve a good balance...RUDE? Did you get my point with waiting one period and a half?

Kane will be extra good now with all the size...

I trying to figure out what you mean here, you dont just let OEL sit half the game. But I guess you want Ekholm in the game. Fine, I assume we can have 7D-men? Let Ekholm be the one to sit on the bench, and send him in if the situation calls for it. If maybe he's needed in a PK situation or if someone is haveing to much trouble somehow.

You can role 7 D around and give everybody decent with playing time if you want, in different ways I suppose.

 

[jfc64]

I trying to figure out what you mean here, you dont just let OEL sit half the game. But I guess you want Ekholm in the game. Fine, I assume we can have 7D-men? Let Ekholm be the one to sit on the bench, and send him in if the situation calls for it. If maybe he's needed in a PK situation or if someone is haveing to much trouble somehow.

You can role 7 D around and give everybody decent with playing time if you want, in different ways I suppose.

Since Ekman-Larsson is allround and can play left and right he could replace the sucker who sucks...actually I imagine him and Hedman taking care of the left side, bye-bye Kronwall and Ekholm.

 

[Tomas W]

Since Ekman-Larsson is allround and can play left and right he could replace the sucker who sucks...actually I imagine him and Hedman taking care of the left side, bye-bye Kronwall and Ekholm.

Ok I understand better .

 

[Hockeyfrilla]

BREAKING: Kronwall out, Lindholm in

 

[Jim Morrison]

BREAKING: Kronwall out, Lindholm in

So, Sweden just got an even more insane D-corps.

 

[yarre]

This is awesome!

 

[VictorLustig]

 

[Willy Stylez]

Yeah baby!

(I still appreciate all Kronwall has done, but Lindholm is so much better)

 

[EK47]

Would've pocket Larsson because I think we could've used an extra physical presence more. Feel bad for Kronwall though even though Lindholm is clearly an upgrade.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Can Larsson play for Finland?

 

[Willy Stylez]

This is how I would want to try the lines at first. I really want to see how Rakell works with Nicky and Scoresberg, and Lindholm feels like a perfect fit for Karlsson.

Forsberg - Bäckström - Rakell
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Landeskog Söderberg Silfverberg
Hagelin Zetterberg Hörnqvist

Hedman - Strålman
Lindholm - Karlsson
OEL - Hjalmarsson

 

[jj cale]

BREAKING: Kronwall out, Lindholm in

And why is that?

Is it a legitimate injury or did they just come to the realization that they made a mistake and are trying to fix it now?

 

[EK47]

And why is that?

Is it a legitimate injury or did they just come to the realization that they made a mistake and are trying to fix it now?

I really hope they don't treat the players like that because it would be despicable to say the least.

 

[Willy Stylez]

And why is that?

Is it a legitimate injury or did they just come to the realization that they made a mistake and are trying to fix it now?

It's a persistent knee injury from last season.

 

[xxxx]

I really hope they don't treat the players like that because it would be despicable to say the least.

they can't replace anyone, only if it's a legitimate injury, it's in the rules of making the WC rosters

 

[EK47]

they can't replace anyone, only if it's a legitimate injury, it's in the rules of making the WC rosters

Oh okay I was merely questioning the guy that suggested that they would fake a Kronwall injury just so they could replace him. I usually don't think to highly of our tre kronor Staff but even I don't think that they are actual *******s

 

[Eye of Ra]

Marcus Johansson should have Silfverbergs spot.....he is better at everything.