World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Russia

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So new lines (kinda new of course) are:

Ovechkin - Datsyuk - Kucherov
Kulemin - Malkin - Tarasenko
Panarin - Shipachev - Dadonov
Telegin - Anisimov - Kuznetsov

I actually love these lines more. The 2nd line didn't look great in previous games, but it was more about Malkin's poor play, than having Kulemin.

Would rather push oveckhin on that 4th line, he can still have his PP time...Kuznetsov ( pure playmaker, dont know how he plays out of his natural position, but they put him on that position in new line also) with Datsyuk (scorer+playmaker) + Kucherov (scorer first) ...all with high iq...could be worth a try...
Ovechkin doesnt do it for me anymore, but will eat my words if he proves me wrong.
 
Russia is depending in the following :

1) Their D needs to get the puck out fast as hell
2) Their O needs to help their D ( to succed with the above)
3) Bob or Varly needs to be 110 %
4) Shoot the puck god damit...they have on paper the best O in the world yet they dont shoot more ..i cant understand this....but this will cost them if they dont start to fire and goes to the net
5) Play as a team !! I have always said that Russia is their own worst enemy...when they do the can beat anybody in my eyes even if their D is not yet 100 % ( coulpe of years and the new young guys will make this team very interesting.

Regarding Ovi..i dont know...i am the biggest fan of him but i am not sure about him anymore on the NT team..

A friend of mine saw Russias first game against Chekia played on NHL size and he really thinks that Russia will do very well on smaller ice...i hope he is correct.
 
Sports.ru came up with an article "how would U23 Russia look like?"

Here's their roster:

Yakupov - Grigorenko - Kucherov
Buchnevich - Khokhlachev - Nichushkin
Kaprizov - Namestnikov - Goldobin
Polunin - Kraskovsky - Korshkov

Tryamkin - Provorov
Zadorov - Nesterov
Gavrikov - Paygin

Sorokin
Vasilevsky

Surprised Sergachev didn't make it
 
Sports.ru came up with an article "how would U23 Russia look like?"

Here's their roster:

Yakupov - Grigorenko - Kucherov
Buchnevich - Khokhlachev - Nichushkin
Kaprizov - Namestnikov - Goldobin
Polunin - Kraskovsky - Korshkov

Tryamkin - Provorov
Zadorov - Nesterov
Gavrikov - Paygin

Sorokin
Vasilevsky



Surprised Sergachev didn't make it


Yakupov - Grigorenko - Kucherov
Buchnevich - N. Prokhorkin- V.Tkachev
Golyshev- Namestnikov - Nichushkin

Polunin - Kraskovsky - Korshkov

Tryamkin - Provorov
Zadorov - Nesterov
Ozhiganov- Paygin
Gavrikov


Sorokin
Vasilevsky
 
Yakupov - Grigorenko - Kucherov
Buchnevich - N. Prokhorkin- V.Tkachev
Golyshev- Namestnikov - Nichushkin

Polunin - Kraskovsky - Korshkov

Tryamkin - Provorov
Zadorov - Nesterov
Ozhiganov- Paygin
Gavrikov


Sorokin
Vasilevsky

I actually love this defense more. Just add Zaitsev and Kulikov, and it's ok.
 
How did Russia look tonight against Canada? How where the lines. Any positive signs??

26 shoot on goal. They will need to fire more. (Canada had what 48 ? )
I Guess Bob will start against Sweden?
 
How did Russia look tonight against Canada? How where the lines. Any positive signs??

26 shoot on goal. They will need to fire more. (Canada had what 48 ? )
I Guess Bob will start against Sweden?

Russia has looked pretty bad most of the game, didn't have a single shot 5-on-5 in the 1st period for instance.

Bobrovsky was the only real positive and will certainly start against Sweden.

The top line with Datsyuk looked completely useless, worse than with Kuzy, but then again, most guys looked terrible yesterday.
 
Russia has looked pretty bad most of the game, didn't have a single shot 5-on-5 in the 1st period for instance.

Bobrovsky was the only real positive and will certainly start against Sweden.

The top line with Datsyuk looked completely useless, worse than with Kuzy, but then again, most guys looked terrible yesterday.

Amazing how you turn facts inside out. the Datsyuk line was good locking the Canadians in their zone for good which us expected from a line with Datsyuk and Kucherov. The only thing useless seems to be your comment on the game. It is off the mark by a mile.
 
I thought the Datsyuk line was good, along with the Panarin line. The only change I'd make is switch Kuznetsov and Kucherov.
 
I thought the Datsyuk line was good, along with the Panarin line. The only change I'd make is switch Kuznetsov and Kucherov.

I think Panarin - Shipachev - Dadonov gotta be better, they fight for the puck poorly. Of course, they can get a goal out of nothing, but otherwise they should play way faster. Pity, having defense like Orlov and Marchenko doesn't help, they can't play under pressure at all.
 
How did Russia look tonight against Canada? How where the lines. Any positive signs??

26 shoot on goal. They will need to fire more. (Canada had what 48 ? )
I Guess Bob will start against Sweden?

They were running scared in the first and then got their crap together for the rest of the game. They were actually better than Canada for the 2nd and the 3rd.

Datsyuk was FINALLY centering Ovechkin and Kucherov and it was a good line.

Kuznetsov on the 4th line is a waste of talent. But thanks to Znarok there aren't enough skilled players on that roster and Znarok holds on to the Panarin - Shipachev - Dadonov line as it was sacred. Obviously because without Panarin the other two would be pretty much useless. Znarok is a hostage of his own mistakes.

The offence came alive though, just by playing a faster paced passing game.

The defence was meh as expected with most of the guys struggling against canadian forwards. Emelin stood out with some solid D and thunderous hits, but that's about it.

Bob rebounded from a bad game against the Czechs while I still think Varlamov is in a better shape right now.

Ovechkin with a trademark PP goal. Datsyuk stealing pucks right an left as usual. Still no signs of excelence from Malkin.

A fun game, a high quality game on both sides where Russia got Canada on the run for a stretch. So there is hope.
 
I think Panarin - Shipachev - Dadonov gotta be better, they fight for the puck poorly. Of course, they can get a goal out of nothing, but otherwise they should play way faster. Pity, having defense like Orlov and Marchenko doesn't help, they can't play under pressure at all.

They could be better but there chemistry is keeping them competitive. If you break them up each of them will become much less useful, well not Panarin. And I think it's a good thing, it allows at least one skill player on the 4th line.
 
No one is noticing how bad Kulemin is? There was one shift when Panarin was with Tarasenko and Malkin instead of him and that line had a great shift. Posessed the puck really well and created several scoring chances. Kulemin not doing anything effectively out there and he has poor hockey sense. He should be on the fourth line. And Kuznetsov on the forth line it's kinda waste of assests, so I would swap them. Even Anisimov would do better on the second line than Kulemin.

So I would go with Kulemin-Anisimov-Telegin as forth line with the least ice time. Orlov-Marchenko the third pair with the least ice time and against easier competition. They got victimized yesterday by Canada's best line. They should have had no business being there against them after the first goal. Russia's coaching stuff sucks.

I liked Datsyk with Ovechkin, a lot better than Ovechkin with Kuznetsov, but Kucherov was kinda invisible. Hopefully he would be more noticeble next time.

That said, Znarok and co are never doing changes during the game, there's no adjustments. Their strategies not good, there's no structure. So we kinda doomed anyway.
 
No one is noticing how bad Kulemin is? There was one shift when Panarin was with Tarasenko and Malkin instead of him and that line had a great shift. Posessed the puck really well and created several scoring chances. Kulemin not doing anything effectively out there and he has poor hockey sense. He should be on the fourth line. And Kuznetsov on the forth line it's kinda waste of assests, so I would swap them. Even Anisimov would do better on the second line than Kulemin.

So I would go with Kulemin-Anisimov-Telegin as forth line with the least ice time. Orlov-Marchenko the third pair with the least ice time and against easier competition. They got victimized yesterday by Canada's best line. They should have had no business being there against them after the first goal. Russia's coaching stuff sucks.

I liked Datsyk with Ovechkin, a lot better than Ovechkin with Kuznetsov, but Kucherov was kinda invisible. Hopefully he would be more noticeble next time.

That said, Znarok and co are never doing changes during the game, there's no adjustments. Their strategies not good, there's no structure. So we kinda doomed anyway.

Noone is noticing how good Kulemin is in his role.
 
Thanks guys for your comment about the game
I got to see the game in reply (mainly 2 and 3 period ) and i dont think Russia was bad at all. I dont know but i think we can do good when Kucherov AND MALKIN stepping it up.
I hope they can adjust during the games and changing their lines if they must..sometimes i have to wonder why this seem so hard for Russia to do..?
Was it not Ovi some years ago who said that Canada and US was lightyears ahead of russia come special teams and game plans...
It so sad when this kind of talent does not come to play their best because of coaching problems..

I loved the second goal. Get the puck on goal and good thing will happen...i am repating myselfe but they have to shoot my god this is played on small ice just get the puck on goals and go hard to the net

From what i saw i feel that Russia has another gear and they will have to play very fast
Cant wait for this tournament to start!!
 
Noone is noticing how good Kulemin is in his role.

Which role? He brings nothing on that line. Not good defensively, not good offensively, not digging pucks, zero forecheck. He's very slow, puck often goes nowhere when it's on his stick.

I know that he's supposedly good defensive power forward, but he's not in reality, or just rarely. He's a blue collar player, yes, but he's terribly ineffective.
Coaching stuff just put together players that played together once, but it doesn't mean it works. Ovechkin looks better with Datsyuk than with Kuznetsov, Malkin looks better without Kulemin than with him. Are you Russian? During the WC in Czech Rep. when the line was Kulemin-Malkin-Mozyakin, even commentators (Gimaev) mentioned how passes are dying on Kulemin stick and that Malkin and Mozykin would do better with someone else. They have done well as a line during lockout in KHL, but it doesn't mean they would do the same in international competition.

I'm sure Kuznetsov or Anisimov would do better in his place, just because of their hockey sense.
 
Yeah, I wouldn't mind to see Kuznetsov - Malkin - Tarasenko line. Just by names, this line will scare the **** out of any defense, which can help a lot.
 
can any of Kuznetsov, Kucherov, or Tarasenko play LW?
Kucherov definitely can. He played LW on Kucherov - Grigorenko - Yakupov line during WJC(U18) back in 2011. He finished with 21 points in 7 games, tournament MVP, so I guess he can.
 
Kuznetsov can play all 3 positions. Kucherov can, but that would compromise the RW depth. I've never seen Tarasenko on the LW, and I think he is at his best at RW.

Don't think it would be too much of a problem, Kulemin isn't gonna produce much on the 2nd line or the 4th. Might as well move Kuznetsov up.

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Kuznetsov
Kucherov-Malkin-Tarasenko
Panarin-Shipachev-Dadonov
Telegin-Anisimov-Kulemin
 
Don't think it would be too much of a problem, Kulemin isn't gonna produce much on the 2nd line or the 4th. Might as well move Kuznetsov up.

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Kuznetsov
Kucherov-Malkin-Tarasenko
Panarin-Shipachev-Dadonov
Telegin-Anisimov-Kulemin

I like this line up, great idea. Having two gunners next to Malkin may force him to pass the puck more. He has been a bit too selfish so far, and it's a shame because he's a brilliant playmaker.
 
Which role? He brings nothing on that line. Not good defensively, not good offensively, not digging pucks, zero forecheck. He's very slow, puck often goes nowhere when it's on his stick.

I know that he's supposedly good defensive power forward, but he's not in reality, or just rarely. He's a blue collar player, yes, but he's terribly ineffective.
Coaching stuff just put together players that played together once, but it doesn't mean it works. Ovechkin looks better with Datsyuk than with Kuznetsov, Malkin looks better without Kulemin than with him. Are you Russian? During the WC in Czech Rep. when the line was Kulemin-Malkin-Mozyakin, even commentators (Gimaev) mentioned how passes are dying on Kulemin stick and that Malkin and Mozykin would do better with someone else. They have done well as a line during lockout in KHL, but it doesn't mean they would do the same in international competition.

I'm sure Kuznetsov or Anisimov would do better in his place, just because of their hockey sense.

I agree with you. Just a waste of a good spot. Doesn't create anything offensively, doesn't mesh with other offensively gifted players, is not particularly good defensively either. Put Kuznetsov on that line. Or even Anisimov.
 
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