If he does get to play...two bits says, he seizes the mantle and never looks back...Man the dude was awesome in SCP's, even better than Bishop
All u Russians saying this tourney's not too important anyway...So why not give the Kid an honest shot?
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If he does get to play...two bits says, he seizes the mantle and never looks back...Man the dude was awesome in SCP's, even better than Bishop
All u Russians saying this tourney's not too important anyway...So why not give the Kid an honest shot?
I think, it's important for coaches and players. If Russia looks too helpless, it will possibly lead to a bad publicity for Znarok. He's lost 2 WHCs in a row, it's not good.
What is your point?
They played together in the last World Championship and did it well until Finland. They shut them down.
While in 2011 Panarin and Tarasenko were creators of one of the craziest comebacks I have ever seen. That was a power of will showed not only by them but the by the whole team. And I think we will need it against the teams at the World Cup. Especially Finland and Canada.
I don't know if this defence has a chance to look decent under Znarok and with that roster overall, but Emelin won't be a liability. I know that much. In MTL they might go from love to hate in a minute, I don't care. I know what I really see.
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I think his only point is SKA. Irrational but that's what seems to be marring his vision.
The question goes to the coaching staff. My guess is Znarok will get stuck with one goalie again like always. And it is normally not the younger guy.
It's not a problem to shut a line down, when other lines don't play. I remember, Sweden and Czech shut the KLM line down at 1985 and 1987 WHCs, and Krutov, Larionov and Makarov were better, than Panarin, Shipachev and Dadonov.
Alexander the Gr8
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They practice puck battles in the corners, which is good since that's where a lot of the game is played on NHL ice. I like what I saw when practicing attacking and defending on the rush. Russia's speed and skill is going to be their bread and butter as always. The lines seem to have chemistry already, which is good. As far as goaltending goes, I think Bobs will earn the top spot.
I guess we'll see. My opinion on Emelin has not changed ever since he came to the NHL. I always saw him as a physical but limited defenseman, and if that's the best Russia has to offer on the 3rd pair, Russia won't last long with a guy like Emelin up against the likes of Giroux or Tavares.
Emelin has a rep in NA. Unfortunately NA coaches believe this BS just like fans. He was never used properly in MTL.
Alexander the Gr8
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What's his proper use? Please tell me, I'm curious to know. I'll send an email to Michel Therrien with your suggestion.
I have more faith in Nesterov right now. Voynov would've made a huge difference in the lineup. It is what it is.
Before you roll out your sarcasm to the full I have to tell you that I've watched Emelin play for a much longer period of time than Therrien and know exactly what kind of player and even person he is. Emelin has much more offensive upside than people who don't know him think. He is not that only hitter they made him in Montreal. That was a Habs' need at the time, so it is understandable.
As for Voynov Russia should have pulled out of the tournament because of the Voynov decision. That is my opinion and it never changed. It has nothing to do with how good or bad Voynov is. It is about allowing the NHL to do such things in any case. What they do is illegal, disrespectful and wrong. FHR should have ruined their fine little pocket tournament by boycotting it.
Zine
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Actually Kuznetsov, Tarasenko and Panarin all played on different lines at that WJC..apart from when Bragin was occasionally double shifting players.
Znarok: I got an idea. I'll put all the wingers on the opposite sides.
You do see they are on the right side if you take the goal as orientation?
One of the thngs I like about Bragin is that he shuffles players if need be. We have no KLM anymore. It is nonsensical to stick to the lines if they don't work.
I can only hpe he pans out as a NT coach sometime.
jj cale
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Does this attitude do Russia any good? This us against the world mentality that is on display?
They can't stay on the ice for a National anthem when they were all fully aware it was tradition to do so and that the other teams did if for them when they won, they get nailed for crazy doping violations and claim the world is out to get them and on and on.
Now you want to boycott a tournament because of a guy who was involved in a serious domestic incident and has already been banned by the league that is organizing this tournament?
How is this attitude supposed to do Russia any good?
Go out and play with pride and try to win for gods sake,anything else is silly.
Alexander the Gr8
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Well, you didn't answer my question. I asked you what's the proper use of Emelin, and you just said that he has hidden offensive upside. I'll tell you what, I've been watching Emelin 82 times per year for the past 5 years now. I have yet to see anything that resembles offensive upside. He is more than welcome to show his offensive skill.
As for Voynov, you can't imagine the backlash that the NHL would rightfully get if they allowed him in the tournament. He was banned from the NHL and he was going to be deported back to Russia before he left under his own consent. Having the entire Russian team pulled from the tournament would be incredibly petty.
jj cale
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Considering the social/political atmosphere these days concerning domestic violence pulling out of this tournament because Voynov was banned from the tournament would be a p.r. disaster.
The last thing Russian sports really needs these days.
There is rght and there is wrong. Doing the right things and not doing the wrong ones is always doing you good. Even if there are hypocrites, enemies and jealous neighbours who will act upset with your actions.
There is no us against the world mentality in Russia. There is a we are the world mentality in the West.
That BS again
So predictable. I've seen a lot of disrespectful behavior from canadian players in my time. So what? Should I drag a grudge though the years? No, I don't care.Btw, in this very thread there were explanations of the incident so I won't repeat them.
I hope you know you are protecting lies and liars?
Anther lie. I will always protect Voynov in this case of bending the law in California.
And we should fight people who bend the law and lie. Always, anywhere, regardless of the consequences, becauase it is right.
The league is a joke because of it. But it was before too.
How's doing what is right is supposed to do you any good? For god's sake read the bible.
jj cale
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Can't believe what I just read there.
I stand by what I said. The smart thing to do, the honorable thing, would be to go out and play with pride and try to make your country proud by putting up a good showing.
In other words, doing the RIGHT thing is the best way to go.
Boycotting this tournament because of the voynov incident does none of that, it just makes you look bad.
It would have been incredibly stupid to have done that, thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.
I stand by what I said. The smart thing to do, the honorable thing, would be to go out and play with pride and try to make your country proud by putting up a good showing.
In other words, doing the RIGHT thing is the best way to go.
Boycotting this tournament because of the voynov incident does none of that, it just makes you look bad.
It would have been incredibly stupid to have done that, thankfully, cooler heads prevailed.
Russian sports doesn't need to care about what a couple of propaganda victims in the West think.
The real PR desaster is what the West did at the Olympics and Paralimpics. The consequences for the West will be truly desastrous.
bov
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Ever heard about massive corruption and politics interfering with institutions that are supposed to be neutral hurting both the institutions and the corrupting side?
Hint: the institutions are WADA and MOC. The corrupting party the US mainly.
Those have zero credibility now after fabricating that childish report.
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