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World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Russia

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The Kulemin hate is a lot of self-loathing.

You see, Ovechkin is not even good enough to play for Russia. Apparently no one is good enough.
 
Avangard Barys said:
The Kulemin hate is a lot of self-loathing.

You see, Ovechkin is not even good enough to play for Russia. Apparently no one is good enough.
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Self-loathing is justified when you consider that in putting together a national team, Kulemin is considered to be one of the top 12 forwards in the country. That might have a lot of fans ready to jump off of a bridge.
 
Yakushev72 said:
Self-loathing is justified when you consider that in putting together a national team, Kulemin is considered to be one of the top 12 forwards in the country. That might have a lot of fans ready to jump off of a bridge.
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Kulemin is the top defensive power forward in the country. People need to chill. The only question about Kulemin ist whether this kind of player is needed on the NT or not. If the answer is yes - Kulemin is on the team.
 
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Atas2000 said:
Kulemin is the top defensive powerer forward in the country. People need to chill. The only question about Kulemin ist whether this kind of player is needed on the NT or not. If the answer is yes - Kulemin is on the team.
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The problem is that with a team whose most notable flaw is a porous defense, is it possible to even notice whether a defensive forward is playing well? If the team's overall strategy makes no account for defense, does it even make sense to sacrifice scoring potential to have 1 or 2 guys who are more noted for their defense on the ice? I don't recall Russian coaches matching lines so that a defensive line is always on the ice with the opponent's big offensive guns. If you're not matching lines, why bother?
 
Fantomas said:
I would replace Voynov with Provorov. Why not? Have fun out there.
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Exactly. This is the kind of tournament where there should be experimentation, and replacement of those tired old guys who have never really accomplished anything with new prospects. This tournament has "European All-Stars" (meaning Europeans in the NHL from countries other than those officially representing their country) and "North American U23," who are young post-Junior Canadians and Americans, just to make sure that it doesn't take on the aura of a serious international championship. So why be serious about it? Use it to test new prospects.
 
Fantomas said:
I would replace Voynov with Provorov. Why not? Have fun out there.
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I would actually risk going with a young D long ago, but I'm not Znarok. We do not have anything to lose there obviously.

Provorov - Zadorov

Orlov - Emelin

Zaytsev - Tryamkin

Paigin - Sergachev

That is size and some offence there.

I would welcome that before the D Znarok will have there with all the old goats.
 
Yakushev72 said:
The problem is that with a team whose most notable flaw is a porous defense, is it possible to even notice whether a defensive forward is playing well? If the team's overall strategy makes no account for defense, does it even make sense to sacrifice scoring potential to have 1 or 2 guys who are more noted for their defense on the ice? I don't recall Russian coaches matching lines so that a defensive line is always on the ice with the opponent's big offensive guns. If you're not matching lines, why bother?
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Well, there is also the PK which our NT uses to "practice" pretty often. Guessing Anisimov and Kulemin are actually locks for it even with Znarok. Pairing them with another quicker forward on the PK is quite alright. And they both can have and score on a PK breakaway themselves as whitnessed in the NHL.

Matching lines indeed doesn't seem to be Zrnarok's strength. Does he have any left?:sarcasm:
 
Any word on whether the KHL will allow their start to take part when there's nothing in it for them to do so?

Will they actually release players? Hoping they don't.
 
Coldplay619 said:
If the Russian national team were smart they'd hire Bragin after this tournament.
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Bragin is the only Russian coach who has consistently shown the ability to motivate teams to perform beyond their expectations. The argument against Bragin has been that its different to motivate multi-millionaire players than it is kids, but I believe they ultimately will try Bragin.
 
Yeah, it's different when you're coaching the older guys. Personally I don't think it matters much who is coaching now: without a good blueline you won't win with any consistency.

Hire Bragin in 3-4 years.
 
Yakushev72 said:
Bragin is the only Russian coach who has consistently shown the ability to motivate teams to perform beyond their expectations. The argument against Bragin has been that its different to motivate multi-millionaire players than it is kids, but I believe they ultimately will try Bragin.
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We had Curt Linndström and to a degree Raimo Summanen later on, both had the "brains" as sidekicks. Lindström with Aravirta and Summanen with Westerlund. Perhaps Russia could find a similar duo?
 
Jussi said:
We had Curt Linndström and to a degree Raimo Summanen later on, both had the "brains" as sidekicks. Lindström with Aravirta and Summanen with Westerlund. Perhaps Russia could find a similar duo?
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Coaching is one of many strengths for the Finns. Znarok usually pairs with Vitolinsh. This will be their big test as to how well they will coach a team that has built in structural weaknesses against the top talents in the World.
 
Fantomas said:
Yeah, it's different when you're coaching the older guys. Personally I don't think it matters much who is coaching now: without a good blueline you won't win with any consistency.

Hire Bragin in 3-4 years.
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I'd prefer him before the Olympics, but it doesn't seem realistic with the current FHR attitude of losing no matter what.
 
The RHF lacks any specific agenda to fix problems and create excellence. Its just roll along, keep everyone happy, don't rock the boat, and so on.
 
Yakushev72 said:
The RHF lacks any specific agenda to fix problems and create excellence. Its just roll along, keep everyone happy, don't rock the boat, and so on.
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One can put it this way too I guess. The result is losing with a coaching staff that has obviously run out of concept.
 
Zadorov spent the majority of the season in the AHL. Tryamkin barely has NHL experience. Nesterov has played playoff games for a contender. I don't mind this.
 
Mad Brills said:
Zaitsev is playing right?
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nhl.com said:
Forwards:
Artem Anisimov, Chicago Blackhawks; Evgeny Dadonov, SKA Saint Petersburg (KHL); Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings; Nikita Kucherov, Tampa Bay Lightning; Nikolay Kulemin, New York Islanders;Evgeny Kuznetsov, Washington Capitals; Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins; Vladislav Namestnikov, Tampa Bay Lightning; Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals; Artemi Panarin, Chicago Blackhawks; Vadim Shipachyov, SKA Saint Petersburg (KHL); Ivan Telegin, CSKA Moscow (KHL); Vladimir Tarasenko, St. Louis Blues

Defensemen:
Alexei Emelin, Montreal Canadiens; Dmitry Kulikov, Florida Panthers; Alexey Marchenko, Detroit Red Wings; Andrei Markov, Montreal Canadiens; Dmitry Orlov, Washington Capitals; Nikita Zaitsev, Toronto Maple Leafs

Goalies:
Sergei Bobrovsky, Columbus Blue Jackets; Semyon Varlamov, Colorado Avalanche; Andrei Vasilevskiy, Tampa Bay Lightning
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Yeah.
And as recently mentioned, Nesterov is also in this roster following the suspension of Voinov.
 
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