World Cup: 2016 World Cup — Team Canada (Part II)

[Mehar]

Hall - Crosby - Stamkos
Benn - Tavares - Seguin
Giroux - Toews - Bergeron
Carter - Getzlaf - Perry
duchene/marchand

Keith - Seabrook
Vlasic - Doughty
Giordano- Weber
Subban
Price
Holtby
Crawford

I have the exact same roster, except that i have Duchene instead of Marchand as the 13th forward. Good job.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

Can we give Canada the cup already? I mean I don't think this tournament needs to be played at all. Look at the defense : Doughty, Keith, Vlasic, Weber. GAME OVER.

If it's international rules, Doughty won't be able to skirt the rules as much as he does in the NHL.

 

[Mehar]

Can we give Canada the cup already? I mean I don't think this tournament needs to be played at all. Look at the defense : Doughty, Keith, Vlasic, Weber. GAME OVER.

What if it is Canada vs. the North American under 23 team in the end? It will still be technically "Canada" winning if that team pull off the huge upset. They would be waving the Canada flag as well (LOL). Still would have preferred Slovakia or Switzerland instead of those two gimmick teams. However, i agree Canada will be the heavy favourite.

 

[Barrie22]

What if it is Canada vs. the North American under 23 team in the end? It will still be technically "Canada" winning if that team pull off the huge upset. They would be waving the Canada flag as well (LOL). Still would have preferred Slovakia or Switzerland instead of those two gimmick teams. However, i agree Canada will be the heavy favourite.

How would canada still be waving the flag if north america won the world cup?

 

[themelkman]

It's gotta be mcdavid or Crosby. They are the two best captains in the sport.

there is so much wrong with what you said I dont know where to start

 

[Mehar]

How would canada still be waving the flag if north america won the world cup?

There is no North American Flag. So, the players will be flying the Canada and USA flags in the end. I guess they will play both anthems then. Maybe i am wrong but that is what i read about a couple of months ago.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Steve Simmons flabbergasted as to why Joe Thornton wasn't named

 

[The Winter Soldier]

The C should be Crosby. With Toews and Weber as A's.

Frankly it could be any of these guys. Canada has a very strong leadership core.

There seems to be a deep respect bordering on me calling it a bromance with Toews and Crosby. From 2014.

According to the Team Canada coach, Crosby wanted to make sure Toews was fine with him getting the captaincy before things became official.

"Crosby wanted to make sure it was OK with him because of the fact that he's won a couple Cups," Babcock said. "[Toews is] held in high regard, to say the least, amongst coaches, amongst management, amongst players, and he's a huge reason [the Chicago Blackhawks] win as much as they do."

Team Canada picked Crosby as captain and named Toews and Shea Weber alternates for the Games.

It was honor enough for Toews.

Maybe maintaining that chemistry was behind Crosby's motivation to include Toews in the conversation. Either way, Toews said it's a good example of Crosby's leadership.

"For Sidney to ask the other guys for their approval, I don't think he needed to do that," Toews said. "That just shows the kind of guy he is and obviously a great captain in Pittsburgh."

 

[puckluck33*]

Subban WAYYYYYY better than shea weber,when Weber gets a Norris trophy then we can talk.

 

[tade]

Taylor Hall - Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron
Jamie Benn - Claude Giroux - Tyler Seguin
John Tavares - Jonathan Toews - Steven Stamkos
Ryan O'Reilly - Ryan Getzlaf - Jeff Carter
Matt Duchene

Duncan Keith - Drew Doughty
M.E. Vlasic - Shea Weber
T.J. Brodie - P.K. Subban
Brent Burns

Carey Price
Braden Holtby
Corey Crawford

In my opinion, this is the best possible line-up (right now) with already selected players... If it ends up like that (or very close to that), then I don't have any problems with selection. It would be fantastic, incredible all-around roster. Obviously, tough decisions - e.g. Marchand, Perry, Thornton, Giordano or Pietrangelo...

Thoughts?

 

[xxxx]

Who cares, you can give it to Tavares, I don't care. They are all leaders pretty much. But yes, Toews and Crosby, that's the best you can get. The third one could be Keith, it could be Weber, or Benn. Maybe Thornton if he makes the team.

 

[xxxx]

I would love to see Subban-Burns pairing. Please make it happen.

O'Reilly-Getzlaf-Carter

I believe Perry makes the team, but if not, you created a perfect looking line to me.

Keith-Doughty
Burns-Subban
Letang-Weber
Brodie

Done. You have Carey Price in net, take chances and pile goals into the net. Enough with this lock down trying to win 1-0 crap that we saw at the Olympics. Blow these teams out, make a goddamn statement.

Not that I wouldn't like this attitude

Taylor Hall - Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron
Jamie Benn - Claude Giroux - Tyler Seguin
John Tavares - Jonathan Toews - Steven Stamkos
Ryan O'Reilly - Ryan Getzlaf - Jeff Carter
Matt Duchene

Duncan Keith - Drew Doughty
M.E. Vlasic - Shea Weber
T.J. Brodie - P.K. Subban
Brent Burns

Carey Price
Braden Holtby
Corey Crawford

In my opinion, this is the best possible line-up (right now) with already selected players... If it ends up like that (or very close to that), then I don't have any problems with selection. It would be fantastic, incredible all-around roster. Obviously, tough decisions - e.g. Marchand, Perry, Thornton, Giordano or Pietrangelo...

Thoughts?

That line-up is good, of course. I could see Getzlaf and Toews switching their position in reality (Toews being used as the main shut-down guy, while Getzlaf getting Tavares and Stamkos on the wings).

 

[86Habs]

Taylor Hall - Sidney Crosby - Patrice Bergeron
Jamie Benn - Claude Giroux - Tyler Seguin
John Tavares - Jonathan Toews - Steven Stamkos
Ryan O'Reilly - Ryan Getzlaf - Jeff Carter
Matt Duchene

Duncan Keith - Drew Doughty
M.E. Vlasic - Shea Weber
T.J. Brodie - P.K. Subban
Brent Burns

Carey Price
Braden Holtby
Corey Crawford

In my opinion, this is the best possible line-up (right now) with already selected players... If it ends up like that (or very close to that), then I don't have any problems with selection. It would be fantastic, incredible all-around roster. Obviously, tough decisions - e.g. Marchand, Perry, Thornton, Giordano or Pietrangelo...

Thoughts?

Since you asked:

1. I'd keep the defense pairings from Sochi together - Keith + Weber, and Vlasic + Doughty. I don't see a need to change up what worked so well two years ago, as these players compliment one another nicely.

2. Toews will center the "checking" / match-up line, just like he did in 2010 and 2014. He'll need much better defensive wingers than Tavares and Stamkos - O'Reilly and Carter will do the trick. Toews and Carter also played very well together in Sochi in that role

3. Based on the fact that he was one of the first 16 players named, Tavares may be in line to get that 2nd line center role with Benn and Seguin. Although, personally I think Giroux is a better fit on that line as the primary puck distributor flanked by two shooters (and, Giroux and Seguin played together at the 2015 Worlds). I'd like to see the same top two lines as you, as Crosby + Bergeron have tremendous chemistry together, and Crosby + Hall looked really good together at the 2015 Worlds.

4. I can't envision a scenario where Perry doesn't make the final roster, given his recent history with Hockey Canada. He's also coming on strong as of late. Should Perry make it, one of either Hall/Duchene/O'Reilly would likely get bumped...or maybe even Giroux (which would be a horrible omission).

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Steve Simmons flabbergasted as to why Joe Thornton wasn't named

Too slow to play at the top level. Plus he's a centre. Who was he going to beat out?

Love me some Joe though. KILLING it
In fantasy this year.

 

[duul]

I could see Joe Thorton making the team. Getzlaf or Giroux would be moved to RW. Very unlikely, but who knows. They've done crazier.

 

[Paxton Fettel]

Sweden's defence isn't worse at all.

Sweden is OK but we've seen what it means to be "OK" 2 years ago.

Sweden's offense is not at the level of Canada/Russia/USA. Far too many passers and no one to score the goals.

 

[tade]

That line-up is good, of course. I could see Getzlaf and Toews switching their position in reality (Toews being used as the main shut-down guy, while Getzlaf getting Tavares and Stamkos on the wings).

Since you asked:

1. I'd keep the defense pairings from Sochi together - Keith + Weber, and Vlasic + Doughty. I don't see a need to change up what worked so well two years ago, as these players compliment one another nicely.

2. Toews will center the "checking" / match-up line, just like he did in 2010 and 2014. He'll need much better defensive wingers than Tavares and Stamkos - O'Reilly and Carter will do the trick. Toews and Carter also played very well together in Sochi in that role

3. Based on the fact that he was one of the first 16 players named, Tavares may be in line to get that 2nd line center role with Benn and Seguin. Although, personally I think Giroux is a better fit on that line as the primary puck distributor flanked by two shooters (and, Giroux and Seguin played together at the 2015 Worlds). I'd like to see the same top two lines as you, as Crosby + Bergeron have tremendous chemistry together, and Crosby + Hall looked really good together at the 2015 Worlds.

4. I can't envision a scenario where Perry doesn't make the final roster, given his recent history with Hockey Canada. He's also coming on strong as of late. Should Perry make it, one of either Hall/Duchene/O'Reilly would likely get bumped...or maybe even Giroux (which would be a horrible omission).

Thanks for your responses, guys. Agreed, I wasn't aware of pairings in Sochi, so if it was Keith/Weber, Vlasic/Doughty then of course, my mistake, I don't remember it that much.

And good point with switching Getzlaf / Toews. Yeah, looks better.

That's exactly what I was thinking with that line... Crosby + Bergeron in Sochi, and Crosby + Hall in Prague. They looked great in both variants. And the same for Giroux - Seguin in Prague. I really want to see Benn-G-Seguin!

Yes, I also think that Perry will be there most likely.

 

[Sensinitis]

[/B]
Not always. too young to remember 2006 Torino Olympics are you?

Hockey Canada is always loyal to vets who have delivered in the past and will continue to go back to them until they get their ***** kicked. and since this tournament is a meaningless, preseason exhibition, better to get our ***** kicked here than in a tournament that really matters. The only fly in the ointment though is there may not be any meaningful tournaments in the future if the NHL gets its way.

I know the 2006 "gretzky picked too many vets" rhetoric is popular but is it really justified?
This was the lineup:
Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Marty Turco

Rob Blake
Jay Bouwmeester
Adam Foote
Bryan McCabe
Chris Pronger
Wade Redden
Robyn Regehr

Todd Bertuzzi
Shane Doan
Kris Draper
Simon Gagné
Dany Heatley
Jarome Iginla
Vincent Lecavalier
Rick Nash
Brad Richards
Joe Sakic
Ryan Smyth
Martin St. Louis
Joe Thornton

Sakic (36) and Draper (34) were the only two forwards technically past their prime years. Sakic scored over 100 points a year later, and Draper is not relevant enough.

On D, Blake (36) and Foote (34) were definitely old, but that's 2 guys. The team also had a Regehr (25) and Bouwmeester (22) who were quite young. The other D were roughly 30 or younger.

In nets, I don't think anyone can question Brodeur as a starter regardless of his age.

Doan, Iginla, Heatley, Stlouis, Gagne, Lecavalier, Thornton and Richards were all in their prime years.

Doesn't seem like this team's issue was age.

http://www.quanthockey.com/olympics/en/teams/team-canada-players-2006-olympics-stats.html

 

[spintheblackcircle]

I could see Joe Thorton making the team. Getzlaf or Giroux would be moved to RW. Very unlikely, but who knows. They've done crazier.

Marchand-Jumbo-Bergeron would be an amazing shut down line. Joe's defense this year has been amazing.Not just "good for a top scorer", but just amazing 5-on-5 defense. He's playing like he's 25 again.

 

[Barrie22]

Marchand-Jumbo-Bergeron would be an amazing shut down line. Joe's defense this year has been amazing.Not just "good for a top scorer", but just amazing 5-on-5 defense. He's playing like he's 25 again.

Difference being obviously is at 25 he was never asked to play defense at the level he is asked of right now.

 

[skolgoar]

Jeff Carter is kind of like the Canadian Evgeny Malkin. He's got all the tools and skill, but he is an enigma who really doesn't want to be the star. He skates well, is big and willing to play physical (without going over the edge), plays good defense, handles the puck well, and has a quick release and an accurate shot that he has no qualms about using. About the only thing he doesn't do at a top level is pass but even that has improved as he has played for the Kings.

On a talented team, he is the almost the perfect complementary player. He can play against any match up (don't forget that Babcock is not going to have the last change all the time) and is equally strong defensively and a threat offensively. He is probably most effective on the wing, but plays the center position well and can take face-offs. There really are no weaknesses in his game. Probably the biggest issue that he has had is that he always leaves coaches wanting more, but that said, he also does raise his game for the playoffs and international tourneys.

Not surprised that he made the team - he is probably one of the most complete role players in the NHL. He stepped up at for both the Kings Cup runs and for the last Olympics. There may be players who do certain things better, but he does everything very well with absolutely no ego and he has always teased that if he wanted to be, he could be a superstar in this league.

 

[Get North]

It really doesn't matter, they are all professionals and nothing will go wrong in the locker room. But changing the captain is just opening up controversy, if they stay with Crosby, nobody talks about it after that day. If they change it, questions about Crosby will come up, etc.

 

[CanadianPantherFan]

Lou from his couch

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Sit on it hockey Canada.

 

[Skip2myBordyloo]

Sure, Crosby will be the captain of team Canada in this tournament. For North America, I think someone like Ekblad, Saad, or Jenner will captain the team. McDavid will have an A.

I'd throw Monahan into the mix, already in a leadership role on the Flames. I'd consider him and Jenner and Couturier as the leadership on the team.

I don't see any reason at all why they would move away from Crosby as the captain.

C - Crosby
A - Toews
A - Weber

Same as in Sochi.

Probably will happen.

 

[Sky04]

Probably Toews, Crosby will likely give it up to him this time. Besides it doesn't seem like Crosby really wanted it last time, I'm sure he didn't mind but Toews just thrives with the C and Crosby could use less pressure.