WC: 2016 Team Switzerland
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Diaz was initially credited with the goal, then later it was switched to an assist.
Would have been the perfect farewell in his first NHL game of the season and probably last careerwise. Im happy for him he got this last merit though.
And of course he belongs to the NT regardless who's available.
IMO an In-form Diaz, is in a group with Streit and Kukan, only behind Josi.
An addition of Diaz would be the home ticket for Löffel. Diaz, Weber and Dubois are all right shots as well, are capable PP players and much better overall.
Would have been the perfect farewell in his first NHL game of the season and probably last careerwise. Im happy for him he got this last merit though.
And of course he belongs to the NT regardless who's available.
IMO an In-form Diaz, is in a group with Streit and Kukan, only behind Josi.
An addition of Diaz would be the home ticket for Löffel. Diaz, Weber and Dubois are all right shots as well, are capable PP players and much better overall.
doug88
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Reto Berra and Julian Walker will join the team for next week. Boltshauser, Genazzi and 
i (!) are cut.
Diaz will join the team on 2nd of May, Streit has declined the invitation because he doesn't feel fit enough to play. No word on Nino yet.
i (!) are cut.Diaz will join the team on 2nd of May, Streit has declined the invitation because he doesn't feel fit enough to play. No word on Nino yet.
Too bad, I was hoping that Streit would delay the inevitable moment when I'm older than all of Team Switzerland's players. 
More seriously, this is a big blow, this team needs one more defenseman to have three strong pairs. That would make Josi the only possible candidate as I doubt Müller is ready for a big role.
i is a surprising cut, it leaves Haas and Trachsler as the only pure centers on the roster. Ambühl is now a lock to play center, but I wonder who the fourth one will be. Schäppi is a fourth line player and Bertschy wasn't exactly convincing during the last game. And Hopefully Niederreiter or Fiala can join, this team needs more offensive talent.
More seriously, this is a big blow, this team needs one more defenseman to have three strong pairs. That would make Josi the only possible candidate as I doubt Müller is ready for a big role.
i is a surprising cut, it leaves Haas and Trachsler as the only pure centers on the roster. Ambühl is now a lock to play center, but I wonder who the fourth one will be. Schäppi is a fourth line player and Bertschy wasn't exactly convincing during the last game. And Hopefully Niederreiter or Fiala can join, this team needs more offensive talent.
doug88
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Should the Preds lose tonight and the Admirals lose tomorrow, Fiala would be available to play for the national team. As much as I love the Preds, I'd love to see Josi and Fiala join the team.
Too bad, I was hoping that Streit would delay the inevitable moment when I'm older than all of Team Switzerland's players.
This comes also nearer for me. Only Du Bois and Ambühl are older than I am.
Nino is a huge addition, I love to see him again. And let's hope for a Duck-win tonight, as much as I'd like to see Josi get a deep Playoff-run, I like more to see him in the Swiss jersey.
torero
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That is the level of our national team ... and it was its level when they got the silver medal some years ago.
80% of the team doesn't make the NHL ... yet they beat repeatedly a team of 95% NHLers. (they beat repeatedly .... not constantly
very regretfully)Diaz is still a great add. And so will be the AHL'ers like Fiala, Berra or Kukan. (though Kukan is less likely to join them)
Josi would be our star (with Streit) ... although he is ranked between 5th and 10th in the NHL D's. Nino also would be our star ... 2nd line in a team that didn't make the 2nd round. ... We have a long way to go until we can compare to the 5 first teams if we compare to the number of NHLers ... . Who knows ... in 10 years ?
after all, 15 years ago we only had Aebischer, and Gerber ... and a couple of trials who made max 10 NHL games. and
i with Rimouski in CHL and 2 AHLers. Now we have 5 NHLers, 7 AHLers, 7 CHLers ... and so many who have NA experience.All in all, we will still fight to get a semi finalist place and then ... all odds are open.
Remember when we had the Olympic games in Vancouver (2010) ... we were close and we lost to Germany in a ridiculous way in the quarters ... Germany ended 4th loosing to a very weak Russian team, who lost 2-1 to a very weak Czech team. So all odds are open.
Specially that many good players may not come due to the "NHL World Championship" ... so we may actually have a decent chance this year.
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I believe that the overall quality of the team and the movement is rising, and quite fast.
Of course there is still a long way to go to catch up with the big guys (and probably is unrealistic to even think that it could be possible), but having a NT that can be threat to eveybody in a best-on-best competition is definitely possible.
The prospect pool looks promising also. Not at a Finland level, of course, but still good nevertheless.
Plus the "crème" of the NLA is of quite a good level. I am optimistic for the future.
This year the team is not as strong as it could have been with Streit, Brunner and Furrer, is a little short on d's but has the possibilities to do good. Or suck big time, since the group is one of the hardest in the history of IIHF.
...ok I reread what I wrote..that sounds like "the national team will do good if will not do bad. "
Welcome to the tautology club.
If my memory serves me correctly, I recall that that was very strong Russian team.
swissexpert
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Ovechkin, Malkin, Datsyuk, Semin, Kovalchuk, Fedorov, Gonchar, Kalinin, Varlamov
Wow this is one of the strongest WC squads I've ever seen! Could be an Olympic Roster.
They also destroyed Canada in that tourney, so Germany only losing 1-2 is a huge achievment for them.
But I fwel you, was also heavily disappointed with the loss against the Germans, Semifinals seemed nearer than ever.
Good in goal,
Mediocre on defence, only Markov an elite D, Gonchar way beyond his best days, the rest was meh...
Super, super talented attack. Ovechkin, Kovalchuck, Malkin, Semin, Radulov, and Datsyuk in their prime, ZZM, Papa Fedorov, Afinogenov, Kozlov
Bad coaching... Sorry Slava
I remember that horrible Game vs CAN, the doom day of the old russian Hockeyschool. Even with this outworldish attack, their antice tactics were exposed by CAN, once they brought their A-talent. I wasn't optimistic, but what happend there...
I was so devastated... Damn, the future will be canadian style hockey.
The strong 92/93 forwards finally kicking in helps alot in the near future depthwise.
Overall the depth has obviously gotten better the last 10 years. Developing outstanding Goaltenders has been a problem though.
Still problem is the top nations are runing away development wise. The Gap between Fin und Sui is opening up again, leaves the Swiss with the Czechs as only Top 6 nation within semi-reach. But CZE finally starts developing promising prospects again. SVK is close. GER certainly isn't losing ground, DEN is gaining Ground, their best talents developing in Sweden's junior leagues helps a lot.
The strong 97ers have a nice depth, but haven't developed as one hoped yet, elite skill is missing beside the undersized Malgin and maybe the D-game of Siegenthaler.
The 98 is one of the weakest years for quite some time. Goalies could grow good though. Depth on D is ok. But no elite players unfortunately. Depth on Attack is very average. Miranda and Roberts most interesting players, but are long projects. Miranda didn't show anything at the u18 WHC, Roberts not even considered. Probably no skater will be drafted.
The 99ers are said to be weak. Especially GK and D. Attack doesn't look so bad, but Hischer is probably a tad overrated when people consider him as a top 5 pick.
The 00ers look quite deep on Attack. Geneva, Bern or Biel have strong talents. But a lot can happen here.
One good thing is, with the rise of the romand hockey, the development of young players is getting more and more a national affair
torero
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I would like to see him. I appreciated his game in Sweden.
He would be an added value imo.
doug88
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https://twitter.com/SwissIceHockey/status/724979527953354752?lang=en
Looks like he won't come.. Or maybe the dude who runs this account doesn't know anything.
swissexpert
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You need guys like Trachsler, Schäppi, Scherwey, Walker etc but if half your team are grinders who can't finish a breakaway you won't win anything. This team right now lacks offensive skills. Nino's addition will help in that regatd, but Fiala would be an upgrade too.
https://twitter.com/SwissIceHockey/status/724979527953354752?lang=en
Looks like he won't come.. Or maybe the dude who runs this account doesn't know anything.
The tweet about Fiala is now deleted.
torero
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Exactly my thought. He may be the most refined forward we have. Maybe not ripe ... but his skill is so high that his added value would still be appreciable. (imo!)
And he probably is an upgrade to Fiala -1y ... Even in AHL he matured.
By the way i bet he is a regular NHLer next year. And a 40 seasonal point in 2 years. Maybe even next year. In 3 years he will outperform Nino.
torero
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Good in goal,
Mediocre on defence, only Markov an elite D, Gonchar way beyond his best days, the rest was meh...
Super, super talented attack. Ovechkin, Kovalchuck, Malkin, Semin, Radulov, and Datsyuk in their prime, ZZM, Papa Fedorov, Afinogenov, Kozlov
Bad coaching... Sorry Slava
I remember that horrible Game vs CAN, the doom day of the old russian Hockeyschool. Even with this outworldish attack, their antice tactics were exposed by CAN, once they brought their A-talent. I wasn't optimistic, but what happend there...
I was so devastated... Damn, the future will be canadian style hockey.
It was a weak Russia ... look at the results they had :
http://www.iihf.com/channels10/iihf-world-championship-wc10/standings/
we outshot Germany by 41 to 25 without scoring 1 goal. Their goalie had the game of his life and Helbling fought the whole German bench ... even their coach. (i have a lot of respect for him since ...
)Canada was weak, actually the Czechs won because the teams were weak. We could have done it as well. So maybe this year with the "NHL world cup" ... who knows ?
This is the year we were the closest to the gold medal.
It was a weak Russia ... look at the results they had :
http://www.iihf.com/channels10/iihf-world-championship-wc10/standings/
we outshot Germany by 41 to 25 without scoring 1 goal. Their goalie had the game of his life and Helbling fought the whole German bench ... even their coach. (i have a lot of respect for him since ...
Canada was weak, actually the Czechs won because the teams were weak. We could have done it as well. So maybe this year with the "NHL world cup" ... who knows ?
This is the year we were the closest to the gold medal.
We've mixed up OGs with WHC. I actually agree I was very optimistic going into that QFs against Germany too.
Of course Fiala is skilled enough to make this attack even stronger.
That's not my point.
I see it as the Predators do: highly skilled players that has maturity issues... So don't offer him a free spot, make him earn it. He will profit eventually.
After he was the anti-thesis of a teamplayer at the U20 2 years ago, letting Meier starve on the other wing, so they had to put in Rod instead. Even Malgin showed signs of frustration playing alongside him.
Rejecting this years call for the u20 is anoher issue.
After he had a fix spot in the senior NT with Simpson, who had strong connections to Fialas agent, I'd like him to show he can play through next season with out any internal disciplinary punishment, and make the NHL, where he belongs skillwise, and it's maturity that kept him off till now IMO. Then he could be reconsidered.
Nino, Moser, Hollenstein and the rookies of Hofmann, Martschini, Andrighetto make a nice top 6 wings. The rookies all played a season, that gives them the merit,,and they all are options for the OG. I want to see them through a whole tournament. It seems to be the right moment now IMO.
That is the reasoning for keeping Fiala off the team this year IMO.
swissexpert
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I still can't tell if you're being sarcastic...
The roster like I said could've won an Olympic medal, it was scaringly strong.
Look at the results yourself, what do you see? Won every game without dropping a point, would be interesting to search in history books how many teams finished their first 7 games with 21 points?!
Kovalchuk was the tournaments top scorer, while Datsyuk was 2nd in goals with 6.
If anything, I'd say this was a very experienced and result-oriented tourny by the russians.
Believe it or not, but winning 3-1 and 4-3 is a stronger performance than destroying 9-1 and losing in OT to some relegation team..
doug88
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The tweet about Fiala is now deleted.
hmm he's still not coming..
http://www.swisshabs.ch/timo-meier-et-les-huskies-prennent-lavantage-kevin-fiala-proche-des-vacances/#more-25161
If the Preds would advance to the next round he'd get a callup.
But we'll see, no need to speculate.
But we'll see, no need to speculate.
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