WC: 2016 Team Russia

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I was responding to a Russian poster saying I didn't know anything about Russia's U24's - after predicting that our Young Gunz would handle them easily. Our team last year was very very good, and u could make the argument that a few more of them belonged in Sochi. BUT that doesn't change the fact that a Russian A-minus team, with so many of their Sochi contingent, got totally destroyed and outshot ( from memory ) by whopping 37-12! They weren't competitive at all, and I was using that FACT to support the argument that best vs best, A team vs A team --- even at the U24 level --- team Russia simply doesn't measure up...

The proof IS in the pudding, as they say...

Having said all that, your team this year , with their reinforcements, looks like the BEST team on paper. However, if IF our green D gets to add Burns, I like Team Maple Leaf's chances against ANYONE!

CHEERS RUSSIANS

There were 3 Russian players last year who were important in Sochi: Malkin, Ovechkin and Tarasenko. The rest of the Olympians were any one of 100 Russian forwards who could have just as well filled out the 3rd and 4th lines, which may be why Russia finished 6th at Sochi. Ovechkin played in Semis against the USA less than 24 hours after leaving the ice from a 7th game Stanley Cup elimination.

Of the Olympic defensemen, without looking it up, the only one who played last year that I remember was Belov, far from their key defenseman. On the other hand, there were 4 young and inexperienced D men who were mismatched in all 3 games that Russia lost. Of the games Russia lost, Canada was not demonstrably better than the USA or Finland, but they did score more goals by sheer luck and an uncharacteristically awful goaltending performance by Bobrovsky. That game is not a really good view of the differences between the 2 teams (Russia loses the SOG war even when it wins the game).
 
Ovi and Kuznetsov should be in Russia very soon. I wonder if they'll play the next game.
 
Ovi and Kuznetsov should be in Russia very soon. I wonder if they'll play the next game.

first of all they have to go through exit interviews and team medicals and clean out your locker day today/tomorrow. No way they make tomorrow's game. Saturday's game for sure.
 
This current Russian generation of hockey players and coaches doesn't deserve too much respect! And that's coming from a big fan.
 
Huge respect for the Russian players who always accept an invitation for the national team. Such a difference from all Swedish players who are "injured" or have to trim the claws on their dog instead.
 
Huge respect for the Russian players who always accept an invitation for the national team. Such a difference from all Swedish players who are "injured" or have to trim the claws on their dog instead.

When did Swedish players start to show such little regard for the WHC? I was under the impression that this event is a huge deal in Sweden.
 
No, that's not what I wanted to say. Of course, he's not. But maybe Radulov is still injured and not able to play on WHC, and maybe St. Louis will advance to WCF, then it would potentially leave them to Kulemin (if he's healthy). That was meaning of my post. Not comparing them or ranking them as similar players.

Sorry I misunderstood your post.
 
Is a third goalie going to be added?

Shestyorkin will be added, it was confirmed today.

Tarasenko has some family related issues and might not come even if available, Kulemin is officially out injured, so Radulov's MRI results will be pretty important now.
 
There were 3 Russian players last year who were important in Sochi: Malkin, Ovechkin and Tarasenko. The rest of the Olympians were any one of 100 Russian forwards who could have just as well filled out the 3rd and 4th lines, which may be why Russia finished 6th at Sochi. Ovechkin played in Semis against the USA less than 24 hours after leaving the ice from a 7th game Stanley Cup elimination.

Of the Olympic defensemen, without looking it up, the only one who played last year that I remember was Belov, far from their key defenseman.

Medvedev was the other one (3rd in ice time in Sochi). And Kovalchuk had twice the ice time of Tarasenko in 2014 (in fact, he led the entire team).
 
Medvedev was the other one (3rd in ice time in Sochi). And Kovalchuk had twice the ice time of Tarasenko in 2014 (in fact, he led the entire team).

Medvedev was injured in the first game of the preliminary round in 2015, and, as I recall, didn't play again. Kovalchuk is a great talent, but he was completely ineffective in Sochi and throughout the 2015 Worlds. He wasn't even called up this year.
 
Huge respect for the Russian players who always accept an invitation for the national team. Such a difference from all Swedish players who are "injured" or have to trim the claws on their dog instead.

Ya, I’m a little disappointed my SENS, Karlsson & Zibanijed not playing.

Looking forward to seeing Ovi join his team.
 
The private jet was all warmed up and ready to go in Dallas but Tarasenko will have to stick around and try and win a Cup instead.
 
When did Swedish players start to show such little regard for the WHC? I was under the impression that this event is a huge deal in Sweden.

Its a pretty big deal spectator wise. I think the coach is not very liked by the players. And the declinations are a domino effect
 
Medvedev was injured in the first game of the preliminary round in 2015, and, as I recall, didn't play again. Kovalchuk is a great talent, but he was completely ineffective in Sochi and throughout the 2015 Worlds. He wasn't even called up this year.

:amazed::amazed::amazed::amazed::amazed:

He, Radulov, and Datsyuk were the only ones to play decently...
 
When did Swedish players start to show such little regard for the WHC? I was under the impression that this event is a huge deal in Sweden.

Its a pretty big deal spectator wise. I think the coach is not very liked by the players. And the declinations are a domino effect

its not about the coach. we have always get many no thanks. This is not the only year. Only in 2012 we got our best players available.
 
Stepan Sannikov added to the roster. That means once Ovechkin, Kuznetzov and Orlov join the team tomorrow and officially register, the roster for Russia will be at its maximum of 25. no more additions.

A OVECHKIN E KUZNETSOV S KALININ
S MOZYAKIN P DATSYUK S SANNIKOV
A PANARIN V SHIPACHOV E DADONOV
S SHIROKOV A BURMISTROV I TELEGIN

R LYUBIMOV S PLOTNIKOV

D ORLOV N ZAITSEV
A BELOV M CHUDINOV
A EMELIN V VOINOV
A MARCHENKO V ANTIPIN

S BOBROVSKI
I SOROKIN
I SHESTERKIN
 
This marks the 3rd consecutive year that Radulov has missed the WC because of injury. That is a huge loss for Russia.
 

Me neiter. He seems to be going to play PK, but my oh my... I don´t think a dude who has never experienced national team play (even in juniors) can just enter this team and turn the horrible PK/defense around.

Our defense sucks and the fire power isn´t enough. I think this is the worst team that we have had in the last 9 years. The rosters in 2011 and 2013 are close and we know how things ended up there. I think that if we finish 2nd in the group, we might go to semis, if not - we're out in the quarter finals already.
Znarok is on his way to become more disgraceful than Blyatsh*tdinov. Lets see how this ends...
 
Sannikov was pretty good for Sibir during the KHL season. But Shalunov and Shumakov were better. Znarok must be concussed.

A OVECHKIN E KUZNETSOV S KALININ
S MOZYAKIN P DATSYUK S SANNIKOV
A PANARIN V SHIPACHOV E DADONOV
S SHIROKOV A BURMISTROV I TELEGIN
R LYUBIMOV S PLOTNIKOV

D ORLOV N ZAITSEV
A BELOV M CHUDINOV
A EMELIN V VOINOV
A MARCHENKO V ANTIPIN

S BOBROVSKI
I SOROKIN
I SHESTERKIN
This is an ugly roster for the home World Championship, but not gonna lie, these guys must be motivated.
 
Sannikov was pretty good for Sibir during the KHL season. But Shalunov and Shumakov were better. Znarok must be concussed.


This is an ugly roster for the home World Championship, but not gonna lie, these guys must be motivated.

I agree, but on paper, the defense looks significantly better than last year, unless there are further injuries. Love having Orlov back there, and Emelin and Zaitsev also improve on the catastrophe on defense last year. The big question is can Znarok coach them well enough to make them effective
 

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