WC: 2016 Team Canada

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If this team continues to fill out the roster in the manner it has without significant additions and still manages to win, then Fasel should just retire from his position at the IIHF and resume his dentistry career. They won't win, but if they were to win, I would laugh nonstop from that medal presentation right up to puck drop of the 2017 tournament. Laughing at the fact that a collection of 5 or 6 players (Duchene, Hall, O'Reilly, Marchand and McDavid) surrounded by a bunch of rookies, straight out of junior with 1-2 years experience in the pros, without any prep-time, brought together 5 days before tournament puck drop, 1 team practice and 1 pre-tournament game, and yet still manages to beat a bunch of experienced and motivated professionals in Europe... well, if that scenario unfolds, then anybody after that who has an issue with a Canadian uttering the phrase "Hockey is Our Game" should get pied in the face.

1 top level d-man? I'd say 3. 1 of the youngsters already named can rotate in and out the way Brayden Schenn did last year as a forward.

Just take a look at some of the rosters that have won, particularly the recent Swedish and Finnish rosters. This team could certainly win. Wouldn't make it a particularly strong team though. I suspect that they do need at east one impact defenceman though. There's no leader in that group. All they can do, I suspect, is wait to see if Pietrangelo or Burns is available after round 1 and throw everything at them to get them to Russia.
 
Just take a look at some of the rosters that have won, particularly the recent Swedish and Finnish rosters. This team could certainly win. Wouldn't make it a particularly strong team though. I suspect that they do need at east one impact defenceman though. There's no leader in that group. All they can do, I suspect, is wait to see if Pietrangelo or Burns is available after round 1 and throw everything at them to get them to Russia.


experienced, motivated and well-prepared.

5 spots open. 2 forwards 3 defenseman or 3 forwards 2 Defenseman. I'll go with option 1.

Tavares + Giroux + Vlasic + Burns + Pietrangelo or players of that ilk = TEAM and Gold Medal contender.

fingers crossed.
 
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If this team continues to fill out the roster in the manner it has without significant additions and still manages to win, then Fasel should just retire from his position at the IIHF and resume his dentistry career. They won't win, but if they were to win, I would laugh nonstop from that medal presentation right up to puck drop of the 2017 tournament. Laughing at the fact that a collection of 5 or 6 players (Duchene, Hall, O'Reilly, Marchand and McDavid) surrounded by a bunch of rookies, straight out of junior with 1-2 years experience in the pros, without any prep-time, brought together 5 days before tournament puck drop, 1 team practice and 1 pre-tournament game, and yet still manages to beat a bunch of experienced and motivated professionals in Europe... well, if that scenario unfolds, then anybody after that who has an issue with a Canadian uttering the phrase "Hockey is Our Game" should get pied in the face.

1 top level d-man? I'd say 3. 1 of the youngsters already named can rotate in and out the way Brayden Schenn did last year as a forward.

Come on man, this is overly dramatic. Canada is going to ice a top notch roster for this tournament-especially when you compare the other countries. As an American I can only dream of having this kind of talent.
 
best scenario №2


Jamie Benn Claude Giroux Mark Stone
Brad Marchand John Tavares Brendan Gallaher
Taylor Hall Connor McDavid Ryan O'Reilly
Boone Jenner Matt Duchene Mark Scheifele

Max Domi Sam Reinart

Burns Chris Tanev
Ryan Murray Pietrangelo
Codi ceci
Morgan Rielly

Ben Hutton
 
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Come on man, this is overly dramatic. Canada is going to ice a top notch roster for this tournament-especially when you compare the other countries. As an American I can only dream of having this kind of talent.

There's no chance if HC doesn't make significant additions of Olympic quality players before heading off to Europe. No chance. Talent is all well and good, but only 35% of the equation. You can't take a bunch of inexperienced players, regardless of talent level, give then 5 days prep-time, 1 practice and 1 pretournament game and expect them to beat a group of experienced pros in Europe who have been preparing for 2 months. And if they do, then that's a sad commentary on the state of hockey currently being played in Europe. They'll beat the lesser lights, the non-traditional Top 8, but when it comes to a 1/4 final game against one of the other traditional hockey powers, ya, don't see it happening.

But, if they make significant additions, 5 Olympic A Team players, well then, now we're talking. check back with me after the 1st. rd. of the POs.
 
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If this team continues to fill out the roster in the manner it has without significant additions and still manages to win, then Fasel should just retire from his position at the IIHF and resume his dentistry career. They won't win, but if they were to win, I would laugh nonstop from that medal presentation right up to puck drop of the 2017 tournament. Laughing at the fact that a collection of 5 or 6 players (Duchene, Hall, O'Reilly, Marchand and McDavid) surrounded by a bunch of rookies, straight out of junior with 1-2 years experience in the pros, without any prep-time, brought together 5 days before tournament puck drop, 1 team practice and 1 pre-tournament game, and yet still manages to beat a bunch of experienced and motivated professionals in Europe... well, if that scenario unfolds, then anybody after that who has an issue with a Canadian uttering the phrase "Hockey is Our Game" should get pied in the face.

1 top level d-man? I'd say 3. 1 of the youngsters already named can rotate in and out the way Brayden Schenn did last year as a forward.

It won't be as great a team as last year, but they will easily be among the favorites.

Remember, the rest of the field will also be weaker than they otherwise would be due to top players being selected for the world cup.
 
experienced, motivated and well-prepared.

5 spots open. 2 forwards 3 defenseman or 3 forwards 2 Defenseman. I'll go with option 1.

Tavares + Giroux + Vlasic + Burns + Pietrangelo or players of that ilk = TEAM and Gold Medal contender.

fingers crossed.

If Canada had all of those players, we would be talking about a near lock to win the tournament. This tournament doesn't require that much. I agree that experience is needed though.

A chance for them to represent Canada instead of North America.

Yes, what a novel concept. Not as exciting as representing your continental age group though.

Come on man, this is overly dramatic. Canada is going to ice a top notch roster for this tournament-especially when you compare the other countries. As an American I can only dream of having this kind of talent.

It's true, Mr. Writer would be apoplectic if Hockey Canada dealt with refusals to the same degree that USA Hockey has to.
 
If Canada had all of those players, we would be talking about a near lock to win the tournament. This tournament doesn't require that much. I agree that experience is needed though.



Yes, what a novel concept. Not as exciting as representing your continental age group though.



It's true, Mr. Writer would be apoplectic if Hockey Canada dealt with refusals to the same degree that USA Hockey has to.




I wouldn't even want to contemplate the emotional meltdown and shattered TVs I'd have if I were an American and a hockey fan. but I suppose I'd find a way to cope. Baseball is my 2nd. favorite sport.

Still looking forward to Connor McDavid putting on a show and no team expectations after that...for now anyway. subject to change depending on additions.
 
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I wouldn't even want to contemplate the emotional meltdown and shattered TVs I'd have if I were an American and a hockey fan. but I suppose I'd find a way to cope. Baseball is my 2nd. favorite sport.

Still looking forward to Connor McDavid putting on a show and no team expectations after that...for now anyway. subject to change depending on additions.

Man I think you gotta chill a little bit and put this in perspective. This is just supposed to be a fun hockey tournament. I agree I would love to see some of our best out there and giving us a better chance at gold, but this is how this tournament goes for most every team.
 
I'm very disappointed in the way this team is taking shape. too young and too inexperienced. With only room for 4 additions, unless those additions are Olympic quality players, this team does nothing.

Hockey Canada, says one thing and does another. typical nonsense. It will be fun watching McDavid lead the tournament in scoring...and that's about it.

Are you kidding me that forward group is unbelievable compared to previous years, they even left Hoffman off who on the big ice would have been dynamic. Dave Cameron strikes one more time was a POS.

*edit and Cameron is fired haha thank goodness.
 
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Man I think you gotta chill a little bit and put this in perspective. This is just supposed to be a fun hockey tournament. I agree I would love to see some of our best out there and giving us a better chance at gold, but this is how this tournament goes for most every team.

I'm as intense in my fandom as McDavid is in playing. If I'm wrong, if there are no significant additions and this young, inexperienced team makes a Gold Medal Game, which would be an achievement, then Yayyyyy for us! I'm always glad to be wrong. If not, then guess who gets a note in his inbox? :)
 
I'd like to give a shout out to Taylor Hall myself.

He could have easily said no thanks this year and just sat back and relaxed to see what Chiarelli was going to do to build a team around him and Mcdavid this offseason but he wants to play and make something of this year, what better way left then to come over and try to defend this thing?

It's a good situation for him, he gets to ride sidekick with the new main man in Oil country and grow with him, attempt to win something with MCD and move onward with his career in a positive light from here on in.

I think this could play a real positive role in both those guys careers and I think he sees it that way.

Hall has somewhat of a bad label attached to him by a lot of hockey fans here, they think he isn't a winner and sometimes does not care that much, but his coming over here again does not strike me as a guy who you can't win with.

Good decision to come over and play again IMO and I think it says positive things about him.
 
I'm as intense in my fandom as McDavid is in playing. If I'm wrong, if there are no significant additions and this young, inexperienced team makes a Gold Medal Game, which would be an achievement, then Yayyyyy for us! I'm always glad to be wrong. If not, then guess who gets a note in his inbox? :)

We just need a couple more solid and experienced d-men and this team will be fine after a few games.
 
I don't think he was ever captain or even mad any teams.

He was on a U18 team. He would have been on U20 team, but was an NHL regular at age 18 along with Duchene. Don't remember who wore the C for that team.

coincidently enough, and iirc, Duchene wasn't on that U18 team.
 
I'm as intense in my fandom as McDavid is in playing. If I'm wrong, if there are no significant additions and this young, inexperienced team makes a Gold Medal Game, which would be an achievement, then Yayyyyy for us! I'm always glad to be wrong. If not, then guess who gets a note in his inbox? :)

I'm literally going to be taking off mornings from work to watch this tournament, and the only real reason I follow the NHL anymore is to watch players for Team Canada, I'm right there with you.

But getting worked up about who can't go and why and all that stuff doesn't do you any good, being mad at the organization for not being able to get guys to go just makes you cynical. Enjoy the games, but don't let the process get your blood pressure up.

And during the games, yeah we're gonna get some bad reffing, and we're gonna probably start off a little undisciplined, that's what these tournaments are. Enjoy them as is.
 
I'm literally going to be taking off mornings from work to watch this tournament, and the only real reason I follow the NHL anymore is to watch players for Team Canada, I'm right there with you.

But getting worked up about who can't go and why and all that stuff doesn't do you any good, being mad at the organization for not being able to get guys to go just makes you cynical. Enjoy the games, but don't let the process get your blood pressure up.

And during the games, yeah we're gonna get some bad reffing, and we're gonna probably start off a little undisciplined, that's what these tournaments are. Enjoy them as is.

my blood pressure is just fine. :) and I haven't broken a TV since the 06 Olympics. so, all is well.

on a positive note, Cameron being fired is a good thing. Last year McLellan was fired prior to the tournament, so Cameron getting the axe is good continuity.
 
my blood pressure is just fine. :) and I haven't broken a TV since the 06 Olympics. so, all is well.

on a positive note, Cameron being fired is a good thing. Last year McLellan was fired prior to the tournament, so Cameron getting the axe is good continuity.

I broke one that year too.

God, most frustrated i've ever been.
 
Marchand - xxx - Stone
O'Reilly - McDavid - Scheifele
Hall - Duchene - xxx
Jenner - Reinhart - Gallagher
Domi

xxx - xxx
Rielly - Tanev
Murray - Ceci
Hutton

Talbot
Pickard

Mr. Writer, I think that you really underestimate how good these young players already are. Yes, they are inexperienced and don't have a lot of time to gel together but these players are world-class talent, with proper coaching, ability to stay disciplined and motivated, they can get the gold medal quite easily, and it wouldn't be really that surprising. We'll see who will be the last players added. I am hoping for a big names.

Teams from Europe usually have a training camp for 1 month +, not really full 2 months. And they are looking at many players and then they send a lot of them back to home. I mean, obviously, Europeans still have quite huge advantage, but it is not as big as you may think. Russia, Sweden, Czech republic or Finland will likely get a solid number of NHLers and that will also shake up the rosters. Furthermore, European leagues are still ongoing.
 
Hall-McDavid-World Champs now, Oil next year

agree to the shout out for Taylor Hall. Guy goes a million miles an hour into hard-nosed areas fearlessly and willingly (end boards, front of net). Definitely not a perimeter player. If he were a Bruin or a King, he'd have a cult following by now. As this team to Moscow is, I think it is going to be a very good thing for him. McDavid's the 'MAN' (I'd still nominate Sid and his greater strength with the puck on NHL-sized ice, but McDavid may well be already the very best player in the world on Olympic sized ice), the team in Moscow I believe will be successful, and Hall will flow along with that success, and be both a contributor to that success, and a benefactor of it. Leading to bigger and better things with the Oil in years to come
 
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Marchand - xxx - Stone
O'Reilly - McDavid - Scheifele
Hall - Duchene - xxx
Jenner - Reinhart - Gallagher
Domi

xxx - xxx
Rielly - Tanev
Murray - Ceci
Hutton

Talbot
Pickard

Mr. Writer, I think that you really underestimate how good these young players already are. Yes, they are inexperienced and don't have a lot of time to gel together but these players are world-class talent, with proper coaching, ability to stay disciplined and motivated, they can get the gold medal quite easily, and it wouldn't be really that surprising. We'll see who will be the last players added. I am hoping for a big names.

Teams from Europe usually have a training camp for 1 month +, not really full 2 months. And they are looking at many players and then they send a lot of them back to home. I mean, obviously, Europeans still have quite huge advantage, but it is not as big as you may think. Russia, Sweden, Czech republic or Finland will likely get a solid number of NHLers and that will also shake up the rosters. Furthermore, European leagues are still ongoing.

Gallagher can definitely play higher than 4th line and do it well.
 
Marchand - xxx - Stone
O'Reilly - McDavid - Scheifele
Hall - Duchene - xxx
Jenner - Reinhart - Gallagher
Domi

xxx - xxx
Rielly - Tanev
Murray - Ceci
Hutton

Talbot
Pickard

Mr. Writer, I think that you really underestimate how good these young players already are. Yes, they are inexperienced and don't have a lot of time to gel together but these players are world-class talent, with proper coaching, ability to stay disciplined and motivated, they can get the gold medal quite easily, and it wouldn't be really that surprising. We'll see who will be the last players added. I am hoping for a big names.

Teams from Europe usually have a training camp for 1 month +, not really full 2 months. And they are looking at many players and then they send a lot of them back to home. I mean, obviously, Europeans still have quite huge advantage, but it is not as big as you may think. Russia, Sweden, Czech republic or Finland will likely get a solid number of NHLers and that will also shake up the rosters. Furthermore, European leagues are still ongoing.


Marchand - Giroux - Stone
Benn-McDavid - Gallagher
Hall - JT Tavares -Duchene
Jenner -Scheifele- O'Reilly
Reinhart
Domi

Keith - Sibruck
Rielly - Tanev
Murray - Ceci
Hutton

very good?
 
greater optimism

There's no chance if HC doesn't make significant additions of Olympic quality players before heading off to Europe. No chance. Talent is all well and good, but only 35% of the equation. You can't take a bunch of inexperienced players, regardless of talent level, give then 5 days prep-time, 1 practice and 1 pretournament game and expect them to beat a group of experienced pros in Europe who have been preparing for 2 months. And if they do, then that's a sad commentary on the state of hockey currently being played in Europe. They'll beat the lesser lights, the non-traditional Top 8, but when it comes to a 1/4 final game against one of the other traditional hockey powers, ya, don't see it happening.

But, if they make significant additions, 5 Olympic A Team players, well then, now we're talking. check back with me after the 1st. rd. of the POs.


These bubble guys for the exhibition in September want it bad, even though they heard you'll be tuning into the Blue Jays at that time of year instead. Duchene (and his wheels and moves and turn on a dime ability), Hall, O'Reilly (guy is a beast!), Marchand (much better hands and wheels than he is generally credited with.....and if he can stay out of the box and be his usual PITA to play against), and if Giroux flies in....they're all gonna play real real hard not only to win in May, but aware of May being ongoing 'tryouts' for the exhibition in September. That they ALL want to play in!
Pending first round eliminations, would like to see Burns, Pietrangelo, Letang, Muzzin and Seabrook fly in and bring similar real strong hard play to the D, for the same two reasons: winning in May, and qualifying for the spectacle in September.
I'm gonna press you a little too....Jays are on in September and its Canada-Russia in the semis and or Canada-USA in the finals, and the majority of 34 million in our country have gone 'hockey mad' as is the norm during any world cup or Olympics....you're Canadian....I'll wager then, you'll care and be interested along with the rest of us)) Maybe you'll get and be operating a split-screen tv at home)
I won't thrash my tv, no matter what happens, but agree with most here that 'team north America' is farcical and McDavid should be lining up with 'us', not with the half-'us' young guys. If he gets nailed open ice by Subban or crushed along the side boards by Doughty or pasted in the corner by Weber, will we all cheer or cringe? or just not know what to feel...

Back to my original point....I think we'll win in May, partly as a reflection of what IS going on in Europe and other countries and who they will have in Moscow. No other country will be having the kind of tryout within a tournament, that we will be having. Canadian bubble boys will play hard! And barring unfortunate injuries in the hard-ass world of Stanley Cup playoffs, a few bubble defencemen (named above) will become eligible after the first round to fly over and join the 'tryouts.
It's a good team we've got for May, and lots of guys are going to play real hard. I think hard enough and well enough to tip the scales in our favour. Get good coaching from Peters, a few more studs fly over after the first round, and Marchand and Gallagher stay out of the box....I think it all happens...thus the optimism
 
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