Transfer: 2016 Summer Transfer Window

[cgf]

Which Dembélé though?

I assume he means spurs Dembele.

And I disagree with him. Spurs Dembele is a pretty unique player, so he can be of very little use for a coach who can't utilize him properly. But for a coach he fits with, he can pressing-demon who can drive the ball forward with his dribbling, and very valuable piece to an aggressive & high-tempo midfield.

 

[Power Man]

No I meant Rennes'

 

[cgf]

No I meant Rennes'

Uh oh...

 

[Evilo]

Well, it depends on how you rate him before saying he's overrated.
If you think he will become Messi then obviously you overrate him.
If you think he has the potential to be a top 10 offensive player, then you don't overrate him.
If you think he can't be more than a good L1 player, then you underrate him.

We've had lots of amazing young talents in L1, including several Ballon d'Or winners. None was as amazing as Dembélé through his first L1 season (Zidane, Hazard, Ronaldinho, etc...).

 

[Savant]

No I meant Rennes'

Why do you feel he is overrated?

 

[Power Man]

Actually I was kidding I wanted to see your reactions

I'm disappointed I expected Evilo to go bezerk


I've never seen him play tbh

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

how would you improve upon Spurs for next year?

The back 4 and Lloris are top notch. I think Dembele and Dier are a fine backbone and of course you have Kane and Alli.

....so that leaves Eriksen and Lamela. Of course they are fine players, but there are better players out there, but they will be expensive. Do you spend big money on an improvement there, or maybe just a veteran support player for Kane up front?

I don't completely agree with your assessment.

Back line and goalie, I agree. Not much needs to be changed there. Midfield is where we disagree, I think Spurs needs a better player than Dembele. He's not bad, but I've never really thought he was a top notch player. Are any of Carroll, Mason or Winks going to be the answer? I'm not sure they would be, so you might want to offload Dembele and get a better option than him. You might also want to get some more depth at that position, if none of the younger alternatives are going to be good back-up quality for next season. They might be, but I'm not sure. I think Eriksen should be kept in place, along with Kane and Alli, but I think there needs to be better alternatives at that other wide midfield position and back up striker than Lamela, Son, Chadli. I'd personally keep Lamela and Son, and get rid of Chadli bringing in a starting RM, and a back up CF.

Additions:

Starting B2B midfielder-Pjanic, Nainggolan, Fabregas, Thiago A., Gundogan, Kante, Zielinski H. Herrera, Renato Sanches, Dahoud,
Starting RM: James, Hazard, Sane, Yarmolenko, Mkhitaryan, Dembele, Lemar, Mahrez
Back up ST: Batshuayi, Embolo, Benteke, Ramos

Subtractions:

Dembele
Chadli

 

[Power Man]

No Bentaleb in substractions?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

No Bentaleb in substractions?

I wouldn't. He's only 21, and he's missed most of the season due to injuries. I wouldn't just throw him away for nothing or close to it, which is likely what you'd get for a player who's been injured nearly the whole season.

I've read a few articles that he might be on his way out, but if I was choosing, he'd stay, and I'd wait until he's healthy and can assessed as to where he fits into the squad. At that point, if he's not in the plans of the squad, I'd let him go.

 

[Power Man]

I wouldn't. He's only 21, and he's missed most of the season due to injuries. I wouldn't just throw him away for nothing or close to it, which is likely what you'd get for a player who's been injured nearly the whole season.

I've read a few articles that he might be on his way out, but if I was choosing, he'd stay, and I'd wait until he's healthy and can assessed as to where he fits into the squad. At that point, if he's not in the plans of the squad, I'd let him go.

I see; yeah if he is fit next season he should have a 2nd chance

But he already has 2 assists for Rooney he should b careful

 

[Deficient Mode]

I don't completely agree with your assessment.

Back line and goalie, I agree. Not much needs to be changed there. Midfield is where we disagree, I think Spurs needs a better player than Dembele. He's not bad, but I've never really thought he was a top notch player. Are any of Carroll, Mason or Winks going to be the answer? I'm not sure they would be, so you might want to offload Dembele and get a better option than him. You might also want to get some more depth at that position, if none of the younger alternatives are going to be good back-up quality for next season. They might be, but I'm not sure. I think Eriksen should be kept in place, along with Kane and Alli, but I think there needs to be better alternatives at that other wide midfield position and back up striker than Lamela, Son, Chadli. I'd personally keep Lamela and Son, and get rid of Chadli bringing in a starting RM, and a back up CF.

Additions:

Starting B2B midfielder-Pjanic, Nainggolan, Fabregas, Thiago A., Gundogan, Kante, Zielinski H. Herrera, Renato Sanches, Dahoud,
Starting RM: James, Hazard, Sane, Yarmolenko, Mkhitaryan, Dembele, Lemar, Mahrez
Back up ST: Batshuayi, Embolo, Benteke, Ramos

Subtractions:

Dembele
Chadli

I don't know if that list of names is supposed to be serious...

Dembele is a very good player. They just need better backups.

 

[Cassano]

Dembele looked like spurs best player this year.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Süddeutsche Zeitung is saying that Bayern is pursuing Sandro Wagner.

Bayern has also been connected with Pjanic a lot recently.

Dembele looked like spurs best player this year.

IMO Erikson but Dembele was a good candidate as well.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Süddeutsche Zeitung is saying that Bayern is pursuing Sandro Wagner.

Maybe they want him to fill the role that Pizarro did for three seasons?

I don't know if that list of names is supposed to be serious...

What's not serious about it? They are options, some are more likely than others.

Dembele's not bad, I just think thats a position they can improve on, and I definitely don't think he was close to their best player. What about Kane, Alderweireld, Alli? Out of their starting XI, I would place him near the worst performers, not near the top performers.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Maybe they want him to fill the role that Pizarro did for three seasons?



What's not serious about it? They are options, some are more likely than others.

Dembele's not bad, I just think thats a position they can improve on, and I definitely don't think he was close to their best player. What about Kane, Alderweireld, Alli? Out of their starting XI, I would place him near the worst performers, not near the top performers.

Bayern's bench generally is of a far higher quality than Wagner. Pizarro was one of the best strikers in the world once upon a time and still serviceable in his old age. Wagner not so much.

Some of those players are simply not worth Spurs' effort to pursue.

 

[MJG]

Yea Dembele is a very, very good player. One of Spurs best and most important. It's difficult to say where Spurs will need upgrades in the starting 11 as everyone had very strong seasons. They definitely need a superior bench though. Full backs are solid, as is Wimmer and Son is a versatile attacking player. Young guys such as Bentaleb, Clinton, Caroll, Onomah, Winks still have a lot to prove. It's to be determined if they're up to the quality Poch will be striving for next year.

 

[Bon Esprit]

Bayern are spending money this summer:

According to "Bild" Hummels to Bayern for 35-38 mil € is official

Renato Sanches (Benfica) to Bayern for 35 mil €.

German link:
http://www.focus.de/sport/fussball/...n-verpflichtet-renato-sanches_id_5517743.html

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Both of the above have been confirmed by club twitter accounts.

 

[Luigi Habs]

Sanches signing is really surprising

 

[Savi]

35m + 45m in variables for Sanches

 

[Vipers31]

Well, damn, left the house with DM's report of a Bayern interest in Sandro Wagner, got back finding out about done deals for Hummels and Renato Sanches, the latter out of absolutely nowhere. Not too shabby. Don't know much about Renato Sanches, though, other than him being highly touted.

35m + 45m in variables for Sanches

Yeah, I initially thought they'd have to mean bonuses to put it towards €45M total, but it seems it's really up to €45M in bonuses. That's pretty crazy - that's more bonuses than our transfer record fee thus far. I have to assume that's like €5M per CL win (over five years = €25M max) and another €5M for each year he finishes top-5 in Ballon d'Or voting or something insane like that.

EDIT: Seems like our front office revealed something relatively similar - FIFA player of the year and team of the year nominations.

 

[hatterson]

Reports saying MU offered ~40M euro up front and 20M euro in bonuses.

Also regarding the bonuses, I'm sure they'll come out eventually, but a BM statement did include this bit "possible add-ons that for instance will be due for payment should the player be called up to the world XI or elected as the FIFA World Footballer of the Year"

I assume there's also some lower level goals that are more reasonably reachable.

 

[Cassano]

What was the need for Bayern to announce before the Pokal final?

Classless team.

Hummels is the biggest hypocrite in football as well.

 

[Vipers31]

What was the need for Bayern to announce before the Pokal final?

Classless team.

Both teams announced it. If Dortmund didn't want it completed before the cup final, they could have stopped negotiations until afterwards. They obviously didn't care, it was the same degree of distraction either way, with or without the final word.

 

[Cassano]

Both teams announced it. If Dortmund didn't want it completed before the cup final, they could have stopped negotiations until afterwards. They obviously didn't care, it was the same degree of distraction either way, with or without the final word.

Wouldn't play him in the final if I managed Dortmund.