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2016 LA Kings Offseason GDT V: Free Agent Frenzy

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KingsFan7824 said:
In 14-15, they lost Voynov for nothing, Kopitar had 16 goals, lost Pearson for half the year, a few other veterans sort of faded away, and they still finished tied for 4th in GA and had 95 points. It'll just be tough to bottom out, unless even more stuff goes wrong.



As they say, that's why they play the games. Could be worse, could be better, could be the same. We can guess all day, but only the record and performance will prove anything for sure.



The problem if Brown puts up better numbers this year is that there's no reason for any team to think it would happen again in future years. I think just assume the Kings are stuck with him. If he had 1 year left, you could trade him at 100%, although still adding. 2 years, maybe at 50%, but still adding. He's signed until the end of the 21-22 season. Nobody needs that contract for 5 more years after this one.
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They lost 2 guys that could put the puck in the net and are replacing them with Brown and some guy that signed a 1 year 1.6M deal. The offense will be worse. This team doesn't generate a ton of offense anyway. Any drop in production can really be felt. I'm not guessing btw...

Kopitar struggles to carry the offense when he's tied to Brown....
Doughty can't play the whole game... right now you are looking at one of McNabb/Scuderi in the top 4 on defense, without any injuries. Say one of the 3 top 4 defenders gets injured.... that's 2 of McNabb/Scuderi/Gravel in the top 4! This can get ugly quick.


I have a feeling Vegas is going to take Lewis.

If Brown put up 20 next year and could be dumped I'd do it in a second, because he won't do that for the next 5 years after this one.

On moves Lombardi could have made: It would be nice to have grabbed a RHD. Lots moved this Summer. Guess we'll get to see if someone develops. Guess we can just sign Burns next Summer. :naughty:
 
Reaper45 said:
Brown's not going anywhere. Hope and pray Vegas takes Gaborik.
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Gaborik does not have a negative trade value, despite what people on this board may think. He could be traded now if DL wanted to get him off the books. His return wont be great, but he can be unloaded.

Also, I wouldn't want Vegas to take Gaborik. He is still has the skills to score 20 goals a year and even though he has had injury issues, I wouldn't call him injury prone. For example, if any other player crashed into the boards like Gaborik did last season, they would also break their leg. Its not like he has had repeating concussion problems.

The only way I would trade Gaborik or expose him to Vegas is if we had another scoring winger as an option. As of now, however, we don't. None of the forwards in Ontario are projected to be 20 goal scorers and we don't have the assets to get a scoring winger via trade.
 
AlphaBravo said:
Gaborik does not have a negative trade value, despite what people on this board may think. He could be traded now if DL wanted to get him off the books. His return wont be great, but he can be unloaded.

Also, I wouldn't want Vegas to take Gaborik. He is still has the skills to score 20 goals a year and even though he has had injury issues, I wouldn't call him injury prone. For example, if any other player crashed into the boards like Gaborik did last season, they would also break their leg. Its not like he has had repeating concussion problems.

The only way I would trade Gaborik or expose him to Vegas is if we had another scoring winger as an option. As of now, however, we don't. None of the forwards in Ontario are projected to be 20 goal scorers and we don't have the assets to get a scoring winger via trade.
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So you think Kings are going to protect 7-3-1 instead of 8-1?
 
I say 8-1.

They don't have enough good forwards and McNabb and Martinez.

Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Kopitar, Pearson, Carter, and Toffoli. No one else is really worth anything and I'm sure the Kings would love for someone to take Brown or Gaborik.
 
Use said:
So you think Kings are going to protect 7-3-1 instead of 8-1?
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I never said anything about protecting Gaborik over the likes of Toffoli, Pearson etc. Rather, I said I wouldn't want Vegas to take him. He still provides this team skill and scoring and we simply have no other better option right now on the wing.
 
If we had Martinez and McNabb merger for a one player we could go with 7-3-1 and have some say what player Vegas is taking but since we have 4 defenceman that at now most think we should protect i also think we go 8-1 combo.
 
It looks like D will have Doughty, Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Gravel.

6th mayby veteran Gilbert or Greene

7th is Forbort or Trotman

Hope Scuderi goes to AHL or some one pick`s him.
 
Kingsfan1 said:
Since Dean signed Mcnabb for only 2 years i think they are going to go 7-3-1. Gaborik is better than what most of you give him credit for.
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It's not about him being bad, it's about getting out from under a bad contract. Even if he scores 25-30 goals, i'd still see that as an opportunity to get out from under $4.875M for 4 more years after this one.
 
It should be quite the offseason after this year. A $10m center. Another $5m center. A $6m winger with 3rd line numbers that has a 99% chance of not being able to be traded because of the term left. Another $5m winger that basically can't be dealt for the same reason. Plus two young wingers that, if all goes well, will at least double their cap hits.

How much can you invest in wingers when so much is already tied up at center, on defense, and in goal? Something will have to give somewhere, and I don't know how it'll all get done.
 
Next year UFA list is not as good as this year was so it would be hard to get goal scorer if we would lose Gaborik.
 
I think with Brown there's also the question that remains unanswered about do we HAVE to protect him.

Also fully disagree with the line about him not generating scoring chances, he generates shots and chances better than just about anyone else and the stats support that. His finish is the question. But the overall point about his value vs. contract is solid.

KopitarFAN said:
It's not about him being bad, it's about getting out from under a bad contract. Even if he scores 25-30 goals, i'd still see that as an opportunity to get out from under $4.875M for 4 more years after this one.
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So Gabby scores 30 goals at 4.875 million and you will want to get rid of him, which I understand your thought process on...but what comes next? What do you replace him with in the top six? How many 20-30 goal scorers are going to come much cheaper than that in the top six?

We lost Lucic and barely replaced him and people were losing their minds over it even when we saw it coming. Lose another top-sixer for nothing and...
 
Think there was talk about Kings getting Christian Folin from Minnesota. Was Trotman replace for Folin?
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
So Gabby scores 30 goals at 4.875 million and you will want to get rid of him, which I understand your thought process on...but what comes next? What do you replace him with in the top six? How many 20-30 goal scorers are going to come much cheaper than that in the top six?

We lost Lucic and barely replaced him and people were losing their minds over it even when we saw it coming. Lose another top-sixer for nothing and...
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Toffoli certainly won't, maybe not Pearson either if he takes the step forward that many expect. That's part of my reasoning for wanting to get rid of that contract if at all possible without having to retain salary.

My view is largely long-term given the current state of the roster and the organization as a whole.
 
Do you see any reason to vegas claiming UFA from other teams?
Why Vegas would claim Brown when they can have him with 7th round pick?
 
Use said:
Think there was talk about Kings getting Christian Folin from Minnesota. Was Trotman replace for Folin?
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I figured that was the death of the Folin talk. Similar players, and prospect slots in the org.

KopitarFAN said:
Toffoli certainly won't, maybe not Pearson either if he takes the step forward that many expect. That's part of my reasoning for wanting to get rid of that contract if at all possible without having to retain salary.

My view is largely long-term given the current state of the roster and the organization as a whole.
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I don't really disagree and that makes sense, but I maintain that even 'replacing' Gaborik's contract slot with Toffoli/Pearson leaves a hole to be filled that won't be filled much cheaper unless (this may be what you're getting at) a cheap RFA jumps forward in our org, like Amadio or Kempe
 
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