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Shareefruck

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Unless you get the 7th pick, which is impossible, trading down is a dumb idea, to me.

1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Puljajarvi
4. Dubois
5. Tkachuk
6. Jost

.... guys with question-marks after that. I can't see the above guys being busts (at worst, I still imagine that they would be top-end second liners who would be a part of the upcoming core), whereas there's much more of a possibility of guys like Chychrun, Juolevi, Nylander, Bean, McLeod, and Sergachev not working out.
 
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biturbo19

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:amazed: I was waiting for your input, but didn't think we would agree much haha. I was really hoping Rubtsov would have been able to play at the U18s, but he is intriguing to me, more of a question mark than the others on the list.

Gauthier just raises red flags for me, have considered him dropping more, and is a prospect that seems to be on a downtrend. By the sounds of it, he was a no-show in the playoffs.

Really in the same sort of boat with Rubtsov, just not as much familiarity as i'd like at all. But from everything i have seen with him...i just struggle to come up with anything he really does better than Brett Howden, who i am more familiar with, and see as a very similar sort of player. :dunno:

I know there can be some "mystique" around the exotic Russians...But when in doubt, i tend to err toward the side of familiarity. And in this case, there's not only "the Russian factor", but the whole scandal surrounding that group. Really is a shame we didn't get a chance to see them at the U18s though. :(

Gauthier really is a tricky read. I've said it before, and i still see it...but i get Benoit Pouliot type vibes from Gauthier. And that's not great. But it's also not 30th+ pick bad. I think whoever drafts him needs to be prepared to get...not quite what they thought. Product may not be exactly as depicted.

But a 6'3" goal-scorer with touch around the net and wheels in space is still a guy with real NHL upside. Just can't be expecting a true "power forward". For me, he's right at the tail end of that ~top-20 group, just before it drops off. But his size really doesn't make him a "safe" pick imo.

Stylistically, mainly based on how he gets around the ice rather than playmaker vs sniper, i see him like a Larkin/Duchene with their speed/attacking nature. But upside wise, more Kesler-like.

I can see the Larkin comp a bit.

With Duchene, i don't really see it. Duchene even as a prospect had a great command of his speed...not just all out, but changing gears and using that top gear to elude defenders and catch them off guard by changing his attack up in flight. And not only the varied speed, but a lot more east-west component to his game when his north-south speed opened things up to move that way. Stuff he still very much has in his game.

Whereas McLeod really seems more of a North-South guy to me. Still a Top-10 type prospect, but lacking a ton of the offensive nuance that Duchene had even at a similar age.

If McLeod had the same sort of feel for naturally creating offensive space to work, with varied tempo like Duchene...he'd be a surefire Top-5 pick. It's what Nylander does a lot of, that makes him so dangerous. Though obviously, Nylander is lacking a number of the raw traits that make McLeod so intriguing.
 

GPNuck

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I want the 3rd overall pick!! Jesse Puljujarvi come on down your the next contestant for the Sedins winger!
 

fancouver

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Unless you get the 7th pick, which is impossible, trading down is a dumb idea, to me.

1. Matthews
2. Laine
3. Puljajarvi
4. Dubois
5. Tkachuk
6. Jost

.... guys with question-marks after that. I can't see the above guys being busts (at worst, I still imagine that they would be top-end second liners who would be a part of the upcoming core), whereas there's much more of a possibility of guys like Chychrun, Juolevi, Nylander, Bean, McLeod, and Sergachev not working out.

I'd put Nylander up at 6th as well. I think he warrants that position. Would be our most skilled prospect.
 

polarbearcub

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I know regardless if we pick 1st or 6th we will be getting a blue chip prospect, I just want thsr dynamic star so badly. All I Ask is for 3rd overall..
 

GetFocht

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I would absolutely love for Canucks to sit on 3rd overall, Pulju's passion for hockey is infectious and look at him skate!

 

fancouver

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Seeing what Laine is doing during the SM-liiga playoffs I'm starting to wonder if he is not going to be the more prolific offensive player over Matthews.

As a 17 year old in the Finnish pro league 14 points (9g 5a) in 17 playoff games including back to back 2 goal games against Puljujarvi's team.

McKeens has him ranked #1 now.

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/prospects-blog/mckeens-2016-top-30-nhl-draft-rankings-apr-2016/

He has the best stickhandling in this draft, he's the most skilled power-forward, has the best shot in this draft. Going to be tough. But drafting 1 or 2, you can't go wrong.

He'll help his team get a lot of shootout wins, if he hasn't dominated the team yet.
 

Desai87

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I feel like people are jinxing us by talking about picking Laine and Pulu.

WE ARE NOT GETTING A TOP 3 PICK. Start talking about pick 4-5-6. We all know how good Canucks luck is.
 

Gaunce4gm

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I'm ok with 4,5,6 because Pierre Luc Dubois may end up the best player in the Draft, Or at worst you take Tkachuk, and roll out

Tkachuk-McCann-Boeser
Baertschi-Horvat-Virtanen

Or

McCann-Dubois-Boeser
Baertschi-Horvat-Virtanen
 

dave babych returns

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I feel like people are jinxing us by talking about picking Laine and Pulu.

WE ARE NOT GETTING A TOP 3 PICK. Start talking about pick 4-5-6. We all know how good Canucks luck is.

If we're not getting a top 3 pick, what on earth are people "jinxing" us out of? :laugh:
 

GetFocht

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at this point Matthews is 1A and Laine is 1B. Exactly like a Ovechkin/Malkin situation, you will end up with a first player.
 

clay

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The U18s have made me replace Chychrun with Jost in my top 6. Now have him at 5th behind Dubois.

1) Matthews
2) Laine
3) Pulj
4) Dubois
5) Jost
6) Tkachuk
 

PrinceOfPucks

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The U18s have made me replace Chychrun with Jost in my top 6. Now have him at 5th behind Dubois.

1) Matthews
2) Laine
3) Pulj
4) Dubois
5) Jost
6) Tkachuk


Sorry but Jost Is becoming way over hyped here. He did well crushing the lesser opponents but a 2 week tournament is not going to catapult him into my top 6 list.

He played in a weaker league all year compared to Tkachuk and Chychrun..

The pounding you take in an OHL regular season which if remember correctly is about 15 or so more games than the BCJHL is a big factor. Jost is definitely fresher and hasn't has a tumultuous year playing in a low competitive league. Chy may very well be more fatigued from his year in the OHL.

You can't take too much out of a small sample size tournament.

Besides if it comes down to Jost and Chych and the BPA is undetermined between them then the tiebreaker goes to team needs which is clearly Chychrun as a Dman. We already have a Jost in Mccann. Both play a similar game.
 

Quinning

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There's nothing to worry about. We're on the right side of the talent cutoff, for once.
 

PrinceOfPucks

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Spoiler Alert...

Draft Order according to my psychic visions.

1. Vancouver
2. Arizona
3. Columbus

We have a trade to announce.

Vancouver trades the 1st pick overall and the 33rd pick in the 2016 draft to the Arizona Coyotes. In exchange Vancouver will receive the 2nd overall pick , 22nd overall and 37th overall pick and Dustin Mayo.

Arizona is on the clock.

Top 5 draft.

Arizona - Mathews
Vancouver - Laine
Columbus - Puljujarvi
Toronto - Nylander
Edmonton- Chychrun


Van 22nd pick - Marcus Niemelainen - 6'4 Dman
Van 37th pick - Lucas Johansen - 6'2 Dman.

Vancouver walks away w. Laine and 3 Dmen prospects

Here comes the Cavalry !

Horvat
Boeser
Mcann
Gaunce
Virtanen
Laine
Baertschi
Granlund
Tryamkin
Hutton
Stecher
Niemelainen
Johansen
Mayo
Subban

Demko

Wild Cards - Cassels, Brisbois, Olsen, Neil.Kenins, Gaudette
 
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