2016-2017 Training Camp Thread

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Im absolute fan of Zach. For me he is reincarnation of Zubov.

Really? I don't see the similarity. How does Werenski remind you of Zubov?

 

[SavesEmNot]

Even though I don't understand what is being said in the vast majority of his posts, I'd like to give a shoutout to Tulipunaruusu. He was hyping nutivaara a while ago, and I was not buying it at all.

While I wouldn't go as far to say he's the best prospect as he had stated, I am very impressed.

I also kind of wrote off Nutivaara initially, seeing as he was already 21 when we drafted him. His progress last year was encouraging.

 

[Nordique]

Really? I don't see the similarity. How does Werenski remind you of Zubov?

I can see some similarities, specifically the play making from the blue line, distribution, and a respectable shot. Tomas Kaberle as well. I think Werenski has a lot of potential as a point producer and offensive catalyst from the blue line.

 

[Eb]

Hey guys,

Where do you expect to see Wennberg playing in the lineup?

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Hey guys,

Where do you expect to see Wennberg playing in the lineup?

2nd line C for now. I expect by the end of the season he will be more of our de-facto 1C. He'll get a lot of special teams time, too.

 

[MoeBartoli]

PA Parenteau on waivers. Do we want him?

team already has dead money in 2Tin, Boll, Campbell, and Prout

I don't see them even considering anyone on waivers at this point

Tend to agree we won't be picking up anyone off waivers, but I think he is a useful player to some team. I wouldn't consider his deal dead money as its one year at $1.25M.

 

[EXTRAS]

2nd line C for now. I expect by the end of the season he will be more of our de-facto 1C. He'll get a lot of special teams time, too.

Why did wennberg get sent to the minors?

 

[Speedy Sanderson]

Why did wennberg get sent to the minors?

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com...s-up-wennberg-down-...-but-wait-a-minute.html

Just a temporary move....

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Why did wennberg get sent to the minors?

It's a paper move. Dubois' cap hit is higher (2.9M) than Wennberg's, and with the added salary on to the cap, the team gets the full benefit of putting Clarkson on LTIR by wiping his 5.4M off the cap. Wennberg will be recalled by tomorrow afternoon.

 

[major major]

A paper move.

What I don't understand - I thought the team was well clear of the cap? So why did they need to squeeze under?

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

With Kolesar and Korpisalo going on the injured non-roster list (same as Ramage, Heatherington, and Graves) rather than Injured Reserve, does that mean they are likely headed to Cleveland when they are healthy (barring an injury to Bob or CMac in the case of Korpisalo, of course)?

 

[Crede777]

A paper move.

What I don't understand - I thought the team was well clear of the cap? So why did they need to squeeze under?

I think they get greater LTIR relief based on how close to the cap they are.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

A paper move.

What I don't understand - I thought the team was well clear of the cap? So why did they need to squeeze under?

It's to get the full benefit of putting Clarkson on LTIR. If we aren't at the cap ceiling, we don't get that benefit

 

[major major]

It's a paper move. Dubois' cap hit is higher (2.9M) than Wennberg's, and with the added salary on to the cap, the team gets the full benefit of putting Clarkson on LTIR by wiping his 5.4M off the cap. Wennberg will be recalled by tomorrow afternoon.

Oh now I see! It was about needing MORE salary so that LTIR could be activated.

If we don't activate it now we can't access that space later.

 

[major major]

It's to get the full benefit of putting Clarkson on LTIR. If we aren't at the cap ceiling, we don't get that benefit

Wow so the Jackets weren't spending enough money. That's a first.

 

[Crede777]

Wow so the Jackets weren't spending enough money. That's a first.

The basic equation is:
Amount teams can exceed the cap = Cap hit of player on LTIR - Team cap space.

The less cap space the Jackets have, the more they can go over the cap once the season starts (tomorrow).

Technically, I think Wennberg is the cheapest player on an ELC so he is the one sent down. He would be equal to Dubois, but his bonuses are capped at $450,000 or so while Dubois can have $2.5 million.

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

Does this move cost the Jackets the ability to slide Dubois' contract to expiring in 2020 instead of 2019 or do we get that benefit as long he doesn't play more than nine games?

 

[EspenK]

Does this move cost the Jackets the ability to slide Dubois' contract to expiring in 2020 instead of 2019 or do we get that benefit as long he doesn't play more than nine games?

he still slides

 

[DarkandStormy]

Technically, I think Wennberg is the cheapest player on an ELC

Anderson and Bjorkstrand would be cheaper, no?

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

he still slides

Little pieces of the nothing that fall.

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

he still slides

Thanks!

 

[Nordic*]

Wennberg sent to the AHL!?

Is this a joke?

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

Gotta shoot the puck more.

 

[HtG]

That's why he had to change his number

 

[Nordic*]

Is this disciplinary or build up to a trade?

It's one of the weirdest demotions I have ever seen.