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leafsfuture said:
2 years ago they went heavy on 95s as the 94 class was pretty weak up front. I expect something similar this year. 96 is certain > 94s, but then I would also say thew 97 forward class (including McDavid) is best since 1990 which has Stamkos, Tavares, Eberle, Hodgson
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Two players that caught my eye last year were Anthony Richard and Francis Perron.
Playing on the big ice may help their cause but it seems the boards bloggers are universally content with picking this team in June and no dark horses appear on the horizon.
Picking this team can't be that easy so early is it?
 
clarkebr said:
Two players that caught my eye last year were Anthony Richard and Francis Perron.
Playing on the big ice may help their cause but it seems the boards bloggers are universally content with picking this team in June and no dark horses appear on the horizon.
Picking this team can't be that easy so early is it?
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the USA does not seem to want Ryan Mc Innis. Is he good enough for Canada. Can he compete for Canada? Is there any others not invited to the USA camp that the USA wants to cast away? They didn't want Erne, Cassels or Mc Carron so maybe there may be some talent available.
 
clarkebr said:
the USA does not seem to want Ryan Mc Innis. Is he good enough for Canada. Can he compete for Canada? Is there any others not invited to the USA camp that the USA wants to cast away? They didn't want Erne, Cassels or Mc Carron so maybe there may be some talent available.
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MacInnis was invited to the U.S. WJC Camp in August and has been a part of USA Hockey all his life.
 
clarkebr said:
the USA does not seem to want Ryan Mc Innis. Is he good enough for Canada. Can he compete for Canada? Is there any others not invited to the USA camp that the USA wants to cast away? They didn't want Erne, Cassels or Mc Carron so maybe there may be some talent available.
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If some player isn't good enough for USA, why would Canada want him? Why would Canada want any American players?
 
Has anyone heard any of the details about the summer evaluation camp? I know the invite list hasn't been announced - but have they said what they have planned for it format-wise?

clarkebr said:
the USA does not seem to want Ryan Mc Innis. Is he good enough for Canada. Can he compete for Canada? Is there any others not invited to the USA camp that the USA wants to cast away? They didn't want Erne, Cassels or Mc Carron so maybe there may be some talent available.
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Sorry...why are we wanting Team USA's sloppy seconds? As it is, we already have more qualified players than we can accommodate.
 
UsernameWasTaken said:
Has anyone heard any of the details about the summer evaluation camp? I know the invite list hasn't been announced - but have they said what they have planned for it format-wise?



Sorry...why are we wanting Team USA's sloppy seconds? As it is, we already have more qualified players than we can accommodate.
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Same format as last year, only in Calgary. End of July/beginning of August. that includes the invitees (other countries) unfortunately. I'd rather we participate in the Lake Placid event.

As to your other point, some people really do enjoy drinking the USNTDP Kool-Aid.
 
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An assistant will be needed since D.J Smith is going to be the assistant coach of the Leafs next season. That Oshawa team was superb defensively and played a very NHL style of game, good defensive system and got set it up in the offensive zone and spent a lot of time in the zone. It was like men against boys at times in the Memorial Cup and Kelowna couldn't score against them with all those stars. I think a perfect replacement would be Stan Butler, coach of the North Bay Battalions. They lost to Oshawa in the playoffs because they couldn't score but they are a very good defensive team.

Jaden Schwartz was great for Canada last time at the World Juniors, last NCAA player but I think a NCAA player will make the team this year. Brandon Hickey is a '96, LHD, big and mobile. Big fan of him. Summer camp, 3 months of hockey including super series is all that's left for these players to impress enough. Strome shouldn't be considered until he can improve his skating big time.
 
Forward Group in my opinion:


Dal Colle - Fabbri - Marner
Virtanen - Strome - Merkley
Crouse - Barzal - Konecny
Chartier - Point - Logan Brown
Perlini- Harkins- Hawryluk

Defense:


Sanheim-Fleury
Chabot-Hicketts
Churchyn-Carrier
Roy
 
YMCMBYOLO said:
Forward Group in my opinion:


Dal Colle - Fabbri - Marner
Virtanen - Strome - Merkley
Crouse - Barzal - Konecny
Chartier - Point - Logan Brown
Perlini- Harkins- Hawryluk

Defense:


Sanheim-Fleury
Chabot-Hicketts
Churchyn-Carrier
Roy
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that would be sick. Ridiculously strong forward group in my opinion.
 
YMCMBYOLO said:
Forward Group in my opinion:


Dal Colle - Fabbri - Marner
Virtanen - Strome - Merkley
Crouse - Barzal - Konecny
Chartier - Point - Logan Brown
Perlini- Harkins- Hawryluk

Defense:


Sanheim-Fleury
Chabot-Hicketts
Churchyn-Carrier
Roy
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McCann should be close to a lock as a 96 born. Especially after the season he had this year.
 
My team as of now:

Michael Dal Colle - Robbie Fabbri - Mitch Marner
Lawson Crouse - Matt Barzal - Jake Virtanen
Rourke Chartier - Dylan Strome - Nick Merkley
Brendan Perlini - Jared McCann - Brayden Point
Jayce Hawryluk
Travis Konecny

Travis Sanheim - Josh Hicketts
Haydn Fleury - Jeremy Roy
Thomas Chabot - Jakub Chychrun
Alexandre Carrier
Roland McKeown

Mason MacDonald
McKenzie Blackwood
Callum Booth
 
LeHabsMan said:
My team as of now:

Michael Dal Colle - Robbie Fabbri - Mitch Marner
Lawson Crouse - Matt Barzal - Jake Virtanen
Rourke Chartier - Dylan Strome - Nick Merkley
Brendan Perlini - Jared McCann - Brayden Point
Jayce Hawryluk
Travis Konecny

Travis Sanheim - Josh Hicketts
Haydn Fleury - Jeremy Roy
Thomas Chabot - Jakub Chychrun
Alexandre Carrier
Roland McKeown

Mason MacDonald
McKenzie Blackwood
Callum Booth
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Joe Hicketts.
 
YMCMBYOLO said:
Forward Group in my opinion:


Dal Colle - Fabbri - Marner
Virtanen - Strome - Merkley
Crouse - Barzal - Konecny
Chartier - Point - Logan Brown
Perlini- Harkins- Hawryluk

Defense:


Sanheim-Fleury
Chabot-Hicketts
Churchyn-Carrier
Roy
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I have the same first line, one of the best '97s with a really good '96 goal scorer and slick playmaker. Virtanen is probably with the Canucks because of how tight they are to the cap, Benning seems to have him penciled in on the 4th line. I'm a bit weary of Strome, his skating scares me on the big ice and as we've seen at the WHC/Olympics that you need to be able to skate to win on the bigger ice. The team will be young and I think a '98 like Brown won't be as good as a '96 like McCann or Hawryluk. Russians bring 19 year olds all the time and mostly do well, we need to be able to have a good amount of 19 year olds so we aren't physically outmatched in every puck battle. I think we'll have a lot of '97 talent on the team but it's important to have some '96s there as well.

Dal Colle-Fabbri-Marner
Crouse-Barzal-Hawryluk
Perlini-McCann-Point
Lemieux-Chartier-Merkley
Konecny

Sanheim-Carrier
Fleury-Hicketts
Hickey-Wood
Chychurn

McDonald
Blackwood

That's my roster, I think it has the best '97s out there and a good group of '96s.
 
Dal Colle-Fabbri-Marner
Perlini-Strome-Point
Chartier-Barzal-Virtanen
Crouse-McCann-Hawryluk
Merkley

HM's include: Harkins, Lemieux, Quenneville, Bleackley, Konecny, Benson, Brown, and Patrick

Sanheim-Hicketts
Fleury-McKeown
Chychrun-Roy
Carrier

HM's include: Chabot, Hickey, Wood, Vande Sompel, Peters, and Martin


Blackwood
McDonald

HM's include Booth and Montembeault.
 
Dal Colle - Fabbri - Marner
Perlini- Barzal - Virtanen
Crouse - Strome - Point
Chartier - McCann - Merkley
(Konecny)

Sanheim- Hicketts
Fleury- Roy
Chabot- Spencer
(Chychrun/ Meloche / Carrier)

McDonald
Blackwood/ Booth

Bennett won't be available.
 
Ferrero Rocher said:
I have the same first line, one of the best '97s with a really good '96 goal scorer and slick playmaker. Virtanen is probably with the Canucks because of how tight they are to the cap, Benning seems to have him penciled in on the 4th line. I'm a bit weary of Strome, his skating scares me on the big ice and as we've seen at the WHC/Olympics that you need to be able to skate to win on the bigger ice. The team will be young and I think a '98 like Brown won't be as good as a '96 like McCann or Hawryluk. Russians bring 19 year olds all the time and mostly do well, we need to be able to have a good amount of 19 year olds so we aren't physically outmatched in every puck battle. I think we'll have a lot of '97 talent on the team but it's important to have some '96s there as well.

Dal Colle-Fabbri-Marner
Crouse-Barzal-Hawryluk
Perlini-McCann-Point
Lemieux-Chartier-Merkley
Konecny

Sanheim-Carrier
Fleury-Hicketts
Hickey-Wood
Chychurn

McDonald
Blackwood

That's my roster, I think it has the best '97s out there and a good group of '96s.
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I think the whole Bob McKenzie/Hockey Canada narrative of it's a tourney for 19 year olds is a tad bit overstated. And yes, I wouldn't want to send a team of predominately 17 year old players to the WJHC, but this tourney is, imo, a skilled tourney and not an age tourney. If presented with a choice, I'd take the better skilled 18 year old over the lesser skilled 19 year old 99% of the time. And teams have proven in the past that they don't need to be overwhelmingly made up of 19 year old players to win this tourney. 2006 Team Canada was 50/50 18 year old/19 year old players. 2012 Sweden had a lot of underage players as did the U.S. in 2013.

Although I do admit that Canada winning in 2006 was a surprise, a pleasant surprise, but a surprise nonetheless. I expected something of a step back after a dominate 2005 tournament. And to obliterate the Russians in the final was sweet.
 
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Strome, Marner, Merkley, Fabbri, Dal Colle, Virtanen, Crouse, and Barzal looks like a very talented group. But I highly doubt we get all of them. I don't count Virtanen, Strome, and Marner in.
 
Imagine if we have Sam Bennett. I know its not likely, but we have seen guys look ridiculously impressive in the NHL, then come to training camp next year and be flat.

Either way, there is some ridiculous skill available between: Fabbri, Marner, Strome, MDC, Barzal.

Big ice or not, Gold is a realistic expectation. Best part, a lot of these guys will get experience before coming back home in 2017
 
Mr Writer said:
I think the whole Bob McKenzie/Hockey Canada narrative of it's a tourney for 19 year olds is a tad bit overstated. And yes, I wouldn't want to send a team of predominately 17 year old players to the WJHC, but this tourney is, imo, a skilled tourney and not an age tourney. If presented with a choice, I'd take the better skilled 18 year old over the lesser skilled 19 year old 99% of the time. And teams have proven in the past that they don't need to be overwhelmingly made up of 19 year old players to win this tourney. 2006 Team Canada was 50/50 18 year old/19 year old players. 2012 Sweden had a lot of underage players as did the U.S. in 2013.

Although I do admit that Canada winning in 2006 was a surprise, a pleasant surprise, but a surprise nonetheless. I expected something of a step back after a dominate 2005 tournament. And to obliterate the Russians in the final was sweet.
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I think we should take the best 18 year olds but I think there is only about 5-6 of them we should take. After that, the skill level between the 18 year olds leftover and the 19 year olds become slight, and in a tournament like this the 19 year olds seem the most effective. In junior a age difference is so key, in the CHL going from 17-18-19 every year helps so much and I think in big tournaments that another year of experience helps quite a bit.
 
Ferrero Rocher said:
I think we should take the best 18 year olds but I think there is only about 5-6 of them we should take. After that, the skill level between the 18 year olds leftover and the 19 year olds become slight, and in a tournament like this the 19 year olds seem the most effective. In junior a age difference is so key, in the CHL going from 17-18-19 every year helps so much and I think in big tournaments that another year of experience helps quite a bit.
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Just take the best players. Age shouldn't be a factor. Experience helps, but even then in some cases an 18 year old may be more experienced than a 19 year old.
 
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