I watched him mostly in during the start of the season when he was absolutely on fire so I think my judgement of him may be biased. He definitely wasn't as impressive yesterday against the QMJHL in the super series.
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I watched him mostly in during the start of the season when he was absolutely on fire so I think my judgement of him may be biased. He definitely wasn't as impressive yesterday against the QMJHL in the super series.
Anyone know how good the second round of the draft is suppose to be? I'm just curious if it would be smarter to keep both of our seconds or trade them to either move up with our first or get another late first.
Taking a snapshot of the standings right now and going with that, which would be best for us?
A) Keep the 15th, 35th, and 45th.
B) Keep the 15th, try packaging the 35th and the 45th for a pick in the 25th-30th range.
C) Trade the 15th, 35th, and 45th for as high as a first rounder as possible. Probably end up with the 11th and then no pick till the 4th round.
D) Trade down with the 15th for another 2nd and end up with something like the 20th, 35th, 45th and 50th.
Each one has its advantages, it's just a matter of whether we want to add as good of a player as possible, or replace some of the depth weve lost due to all of the young guys at the NHL level.
Taking a snapshot of the standings right now and going with that, which would be best for us?
A) Keep the 15th, 35th, and 45th.
B) Keep the 15th, try packaging the 35th and the 45th for a pick in the 25th-30th range.
C) Trade the 15th, 35th, and 45th for as high as a first rounder as possible. Probably end up with the 11th and then no pick till the 4th round.
D) Trade down with the 15th for another 2nd and end up with something like the 20th, 35th, 45th and 50th.
Each one has its advantages, it's just a matter of whether we want to add as good of a player as possible, or replace some of the depth weve lost due to all of the young guys at the NHL level.
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From everything I've been reading & hearing from people who are paid to do these sorts of things, the first half of the 2nd round in this year's draft are all in the 20-30 range of the 1st round in regular years. The latter half of the 2nd round in 2015 are like early 2nd round picks in other years.
Just upgrade everything half a round. Doesn't mean much when you get into the 4th-5th-6th rounds, but it means a ton in the first couple of 'em.
The way i look at it.
our team is jam packed with young talent, i think we should get a pick as high as possible. to snag somethign that could turn out to be elite. in a draft like this i would hedge my bets with something high... but then again... taking 3 or 4 cracks at different players could also get us something elite.
We've had pretty good success over the past few years when we have a draft pick in the 2nd round. Englund and Prince are still too young to tell, but before that we took Lehner, Silfverberg, and Wiercioch. The same goes for the middle of the first round with Karlsson, Ceci and Lazar.
If there's one thing I trust about our team, it's our drafting. I feel like whatever we do will end up being for the best. Personally I would like to see us trade down and grab an extra 2nd because I'm willing to bet that at least three of them would end up as good NHL players with one of those guys becoming a key part of this team.
Yep weve had success, But were missing elite offense up front.. thats talent i think that is best found early in the draft. NOT ALWAYS but most of the time. so if we caxn trade up, i say we do it...
but definitely, i have full confidence in our drafting to get us some good players. regardlessof round
I'd do either option A, B or D
C seems to be putting all our eggs in one basket and the difference between who we draft at 15 and 11 isn't going to be that great. If we could bundle together just our picks (15 and 45) to move up a few spots I think that'd be a better move.
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Ya I agree with you, it would be nice if we could draft a legit top line winger. We have pretty good prospect depth and we're already seeing good players getting stuck in the minors because we have too many people ahead of them (IE Pageau, Da Costa (KHL), Prince apparently asking to be traded etc.). We really need some elite prospects.
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Dallas sucking could be a pretty big deal then. I was hoping they'd do well this season but I guess it's better to get a high second rounder. Too bad we couldn't squeeze a first out of them.
That and trading Methot. Our D is better with him IF the back returns to 100% long term. I am not convinced that can happen. Plus he wants 5 X 5+.
Our D is getting better, and pretty quickly. Especially with Cowen refining his game, Ceci's development, Gyrba's defensive steadiness and Boro's impact. Even Wiercioch, when he was playing, seemed to be improving.
In the wings are Claesson, Englund, Wikstrand and maybe Wideman, with Harper coming hard.
Methot will get us another 1st. Finding that more elite scoring machine is more important in the long term. In 5 years, Methot is gone anyway. A midlevel 1st will be 2 or 3 years into the lineup if we hit the right name.
DrakeAndJosh
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I really can't see Methot returning a first as an upcoming ufa with a bad back. If he can I'll buy his plane ticket though (that coming from a pretty big Methot fan). I didn't expect Cowen to improve as much as he did so i'm okay with trading Methot instead of losing him for nothing.
That's where I'm coming from. Colorado is really looking for D help and we only see them when the Conferences travel. Same with San Jose, Anaheim, Dallas. Florida mentioned and I'd do that too.
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You can get guys like Nathan Noel, Jeremy Bracco, Guilleme Brisbois in the second. They are sure fire first rounders last year.
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No idea. But I choose A in a vacuum. I think this draft is supposed to be good quite deep into the draft. We have an extra 2nd. I would just pick our top 3 guys available in the top 40-50 overall. Pick best player available. We finally have depth. At every position. You just draft best player available and wait until they are ready.
I am not against trading a pick for a quality player. In this deep draft.., I would just take the pIcks top 50ish.
But then I am no expert. I trust our organization whatever they do.
So many options. Such a deep draft. We could trade down or up. Get an extra top 2 round pick.. Or move one to go higher pick on the draft. Who knows. It might come down to who is available. But from what I hear this is a good top end and deep draft too.
Has anyone here seen Filip Ahl play? He is ranked pretty high, some ranked him in 1st rd. Could he be there for one of our 2nd rd picks?
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=162177
I first saw his name was kinda interesting, so I clicked on the link, then I got intrigued by the size, already 6 ft 4 and 216 at age 17, his Junior numbers are pretty good too this year. If he makes wjc team, would be nice to get a close look.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=162177
I first saw his name was kinda interesting, so I clicked on the link, then I got intrigued by the size, already 6 ft 4 and 216 at age 17, his Junior numbers are pretty good too this year. If he makes wjc team, would be nice to get a close look.
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I like the sound of this Mikko Rantanen kid. 6'4", left handed shot, and it sounds like he can play any forward position but prefers the RW. More of a playmaker than a finisher and from the few clips I've seen of him he has some pretty good hands.
Should be a name to keep a eye out for at the World Jr's.
Should be a name to keep a eye out for at the World Jr's.
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There's a lot of centres ranked in the first and second round this year. Where as Ceci's year there was a run on defenseman I think there will be a run on centres this year.
As for first line players. Hard to say, read Craig's list here
http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-november-ranking-mcdavid-still-leads-eichel-1.132206
The rankings are moving around quite a bit. It's a pretty crazy draft year.
As for first line players. Hard to say, read Craig's list here
http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-november-ranking-mcdavid-still-leads-eichel-1.132206
The rankings are moving around quite a bit. It's a pretty crazy draft year.
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Wow...that's small. Kid really needs to be something special to make it. Don't know anything about him but I hope he makes it. It's good for the league to show the smaller kids out there they have a chance of making it.
Konecny for sure. Seen him play a fair bit here. No idea about the others. Kid has amazing all-around skills, and elite hockey IQ. If he was over 6-feet there would be now ay to keep him out of the top 3.
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