GDT: 2015 NHL Draft II - What do you mean Sutters still here?

[Uemoda]

If it's taking this long, Toronto wants Maatta.

Exactly.

I have to go to work. Just walk away Rutherford.

WALK. AWAY.

 

[Shady Machine]

The Leafs don't have to move Kessel IMO so we have very little leverage, if any at all.

I highly doubt we trade Maatta, he's a future stud defenseman who can already play on the top pair. Losing Pouliot would hurt but I would think he's more likely.

We should just move on to another target and hopefully trade either of those two.

Tell me how they don't have to move Kessel.

 

[PensPlz]

Yeah... the Leafs don't have to move Kessel just like the Vancouver didn't have to move Luongo, and to a lesser extent, Kesler.... and Winnipeg didn't really have to move Kane either...

 

[billybudd]

Reading Shero's comments about the acquisition of Palmieri is disheartening. Where was he when he was GM of the Pens?

http://fireandice.northjersey.com/m...now-official-with-quotes-from-shero-1.1364453

I still don't like that trade with the types of players that were on the board in the second round. Likelihood of finding a Palmieri or better is much higher than usual.

 

[KIRK]

He also said this could go all the way up to free agency or further. Him holding out is doing exactly what we want. Bringing down the price, but in no way is Toronto still forced to trade him, "meaning" how much lower do we think they would go giving up, Kessel?

I'm hoping the deal is down to three pieces with Scuds/dump as the 3rd piece.

Sutter, DP and Scuds/dump.

Methinks if it were that easy, it would be done already.

 

[plaidchuck]

Eh if you can ger oshie without gutting the prospect pool.and young d I say go that route.

 

[Ogrezilla]

If it's taking this long, Toronto wants Maatta.

and if its taking this long, we aren't giving them Maatta.

 

[Ugene Magic]

If it's taking this long, Toronto wants Maatta.

Or DP.

 

[T1K]

I still don't like that trade with the types of players that were on the board in the second round. Likelihood of finding a Palmieri or better is much higher than usual.

Sprong sounds like he could be a star

 

[Marns]

Is the Toronto media saying anything?

I've been listening to TSN1050 for the last hour, and there's been not one mention of Kessel's name.

 

[Ogrezilla]

we shouldn't walk away. We should just be patient.

 

[Will Hunting]

Simon played at the WC's this year against men.
Seems like a pick where they wanted to get a guy who's closer to NHL ready.
10GP 1G 5A +5

Have to see if theres any vid out there.

That´s with limited icetime, too. Czech squad was stacked, relying on Jagr, Voracek etc in the important minutes, but he provided some great energy and secondary scoring there. He´s a year younger than Hertl for example and Hertl was actually benched multiple times because of Simon´s clutch play in that tournament.

I was actually mentioning him in the WCs thread that the Pens should keep an eye on him. Was thinking European agency, wasn´t aware of him attending the draft. It´s nice anyway.

 

[penzweiser]

The situation clearly is not going to change, either trade for Kessel or go the less costly route with Oshie. Just get it done already

 

[pensfan71]

Or DP.

**** DP...trade him...

 

[KIRK]

Nisky and Neal. Hossa and Dupuis. In on Parise.

All that, and in just 8 years? Wow.

 

[Riptide]

I still don't like that trade with the types of players that were on the board in the second round. Likelihood of finding a Palmieri or better is much higher than usual.

I would have absolutely traded our 2nd and '16 3rd for Palms. Sure Sprong might end up being better... but that's going to be at least 3-4 years down the road. Palmieri is an NHL player now. He's easily a 2nd/3rd line tweener who's still young and could easily be a top 6 guy.

 

[cheesedanish87]

The Leafs don't have to move Kessel IMO so we have very little leverage, if any at all.

I highly doubt we trade Maatta, he's a future stud defenseman who can already play on the top pair. Losing Pouliot would hurt but I would think he's more likely.

We should just move on to another target and hopefully trade either of those two.

If they bring him back and he struggles like he did at the end of last year his contract becomes unmovable.

Toronto wouldn't risk that, and they also don't want to deal with the circus that goes on in Toronto with him.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Sprong sounds like he could be a star

or a utensil

 

[pensfan71]

Jason Mackey ‏@Mackey_Trib 6s6 seconds ago
Rutherford sitting in the stands talking to someone. I can't see who.

LOL

 

[Ugene Magic]

Eh if you can ger oshie without gutting the prospect pool.and young d I say go that route.

So...you're a fan of same old, same ol....

 

[Ogrezilla]

The situation clearly is not going to change, either trade for Kessel or go the less costly route with Oshie. Just get it done already

this is the opposite of what we should be doing. take your time JR. We have the leverage, not them.

 

[KIRK]

I've been listening to TSN1050 for the last hour, and there's been not one mention of Kessel's name.

Well, if there aren't 1000 leaks a minute anymore there, then maybe something is happening.

 

[Bennett Brauer]

Tell me how they don't have to move Kessel.

I'm just under that impression.

 

[Crosberry87]

JR is in the stands asking fans what to do.

 

[pensfan71]

Besides, when's the last time JR's stuff leaked? We only knew bout the Neal deal like a minute before it happened