Prospect Info: 2015 Draft Thread

[King'sPawn]

A player I just did a video on and am somewhat impressed with is Anthony Beauvillier. Turning 18 in June, but played for over 24 minutes as a forward in this video. Played on the first line, first power play unit, first penalty kill unit. Forwards getting 20 minutes a night is rare enough.

The downside, is he's 5'10, so he's on the smaller side (which, if you're a Konecny fan in this draft, shouldn't really be a big issue at all). He's tenacious and competitive, but I wouldn't say he's the kind of player who plays "bigger" than he is.

Moreover, he led the team with 94 points. There was another player who had 73 points, but some of his points were from playing on another team. The next player who stayed on the team all year was 64 points. The 30 point differential between the top scorer and second top scorer on the team was the second highest in the league, only to Connor Garland on Moncton with a 35 point differential. Garland is 19 years-old. So, not only is he playing a high quantity and quality of minutes, he's also leading the offense. Seems like an interesting player either to trade down from #13 or trade up from #43.

 

[damacles1156]

I sorta guess this is directed at my dislike of King So i will answer this as i am the self appointed president of the Dwight King dislike club. First off i guess i would like to say i don't mind him if he stays on the 3rd line. My dislike comes when he moves up. His production is good for a 3rd player However when he moves top 6 it isn't. I also think hes not as productive defensively when he gets to many mins. He tends to cheat closer to the blueline in the defensive zone in order to try and keep up with the much faster Carter and /or toffoli It seem to me hes to slow and not very creative and its better suited for the bottom lines. I hope this year Pearson will be healthy and trusted with more mins. I also like the fact im starting to read more and more that Mersch maybe coming to take Kings spot I must admit i like that idea.
Now to the bold part i think bs Hes only playing them cause we have no one else to do it and Sutter loves this kid. I have seen clifford be benched (or ice time reduced) for making a mistake and when king does the same thing he gets more ice time.

Funny considering Mersch is an exact clone of Dwight King. They play identical, Mersch may have a slight edge in skating agility.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Funny considering Mersch is an exact clone of Dwight King. They play identical, Mersch may have a slight edge in skating agility.

IN every post i read about mersch he is replacing him on the 3rd line where i have stated i don't mind him being . Skating agility is a major part of why King doesn't work with carter and Toffoli imo. If king skated better he wouldn't have to cheat in the defensive zone and would be able to keep up to with carter and toffoli So yeah he would be a upgrade if hes more agile. I think they need someone that can skate better then King but yeah lets hate on my dislikes cause you like king I present logical reasons yet you and other hate on me for it.

 

[Anonymous028]

IN every post i read about mersch he is replacing him on the 3rd line where i have stated i don't mind him being . Skating agility is a major part of why King doesn't work with carter and Toffoli imo. If king skated better he wouldn't have to cheat in the defensive zone and would be able to keep up to with carter and toffoli So yeah he would be a upgrade if hes more agile. I think they need someone that can skate better then King but yeah lets hate on my dislikes cause you like king I present logical reasons yet you and other hate on me for it.

Cheat into the offensive zone? I don't think you're watching Dwight King.

Dustin Brown, maybe, but not Dwight King. King gives as honest of a defensive effort as any skater, and very rarely turns over the puck in any zone.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Cheat into the offensive zone? I don't think you're watching Dwight King.

Dustin Brown, maybe, but not Dwight King. King gives as honest of a defensive effort as any skater, and very rarely turns over the puck in any zone.

In the defensive zone King spend most of his time between the top of the circle and the blue line This is what i'm calling cheating to the offensive zone. On the break out King is always the first one out of the defensive zone. I rarely if ever see him in his own zones corner. I spend time watching the left side of the ice mostly which means i see a lot of king clifford pearson and Gaborik. Number 74 frustrates with this game in game out I don't get why everyone thinks different when i see him do this Unless someone is taking 74 uniform or 74 changes to some one else i am talking the right person . just so im talking the same person its the guy 74 on his back and was a -3 right ?

 

[damacles1156]

IN every post i read about mersch he is replacing him on the 3rd line where i have stated i don't mind him being . Skating agility is a major part of why King doesn't work with carter and Toffoli imo. If king skated better he wouldn't have to cheat in the defensive zone and would be able to keep up to with carter and toffoli So yeah he would be a upgrade if hes more agile. I think they need someone that can skate better then King but yeah lets hate on my dislikes cause you like king I present logical reasons yet you and other hate on me for it.

You basically have no idea what you're talking about. I doubt you have even seen Mersch play live at all, or even on T.V. All the the things people hate about Dwight King, are pretty much what everyone is going to *****ing about with Mersch.

Literally the same player.

About the same size, same speed, same skill set, plays the same way in front of the net. ETC. ETC.

Literally watched Mersch play about 25 live games this year. Once Mersch hit his stride mid season, I thought to myself (Hmm, plays like Dwight King). Which is not a bad thing.

Also what's wrong with having King and Mersch both in the lineup ? Provided Mersch makes it to the NHL.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

You basically have no idea what you're talking about. I doubt you have even seen Mersch play live at all, or even on T.V. All the the things people hate about Dwight King, are pretty much what everyone is going to *****ing about with Mersch.

Literally the same player.

About the same size, same speed, same skill set, plays the same way in front of the net. ETC. ETC.

Literally watched Mersch play about 25 live games this year. Once Mersch hit his stride mid season, I thought to myself (Hmm plays like Dwight King).

Your right i have only seen Mersch play on the computer 25 ish games But living in bc / ontario kinda hard to get to games live. Again you stated in your last post he is more agile then king Even if i agree hes the same player as king that right there make him better then king. (and i dont agree at all.)

To the bold Mersh has more offensive upside then king. Hes faster better skater. He is not the same size king 6 4 230 and mersch 6 1 220 I would say 3 inches and 10 pounds is different.

Please stop the grandstanding there are only two vocal king fans on the board that dislike King me and cali so if your calling us out call it out straight and stop hating it with word like people This will be the last time i will quote you as i feel if i continue it will only end in suspension.

I think if mersch is more offensive and skates better then king There is no more room for King as lw would have gaborik pearson and mersch and clifford playing 4th line. We will also have to make room soon for Zykov and kempe No room at the inn for a cheap but not as cheap as the elc contracts coming wing

 

[damacles1156]

Your right i have only seen Mersch play on the computer 25 ish games But living in bc / ontario kinda hard to get to games live. Again you stated in your last post he is more agile then king Even if i agree hes the same player as king that right there make him better then king. (and i dont agree at all.)

To the bold Mersh has more offensive upside then king. Hes faster better skater. He is not the same size king 6 4 230 and mersch 6 1 220 I would say 3 inches and 10 pounds is different.

Please stop the grandstanding there are only two vocal king fans on the board that dislike King me and cali so if your calling us out call it out straight and stop hating it with word like people This will be the last time i will quote you as i feel if i continue it will only end in suspension.

No one knows if Mersch has more offensive upside. Until Mersch actually plays in the NHL. Mersch is not as skilled as Nick Shore, and Shore scored a grand total of 1 goal in 34 games.

AHL production does not = NHL production.

Mersch has to make the roster first. Baby steps. Again whats wrong with having another cheap productive player along side King ? Why does King have to be replaced ? Mersch /King both can play RW or LW.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

No one knows if Mersch has more offensive upside. Until Mersch actually plays in the NHL. Mersch is not as skilled as Nick Shore, and Shore scored a grand total of 1 goal in 34 games.

AHL production does not = NHL production.

Mersch has to make the roster first. Baby steps. Again whats wrong with having another cheap productive player along side King ? Why does King have to be replaced ? Mersch /King both can play RW or LW.

Mersh is more skilled the King I watched both play in the ahl King is awkward skating and passing Mersh isn't imo. Mersh may not be as skilled as Shore but like vey shore is more of a top six skilled player earning his time in la in the bottom six. Mersh is bottom six talent so will have a easier time because hes used to less ice time then Shore would be to show what he can do However Mersch will spend a year or so proving he can take over kings spot. All rookie have to earn ice time. Again with andreoff zykov weal shore kempe looking for roster spots and clifford signed for 5 years and nolan signed longer King is no longer the cheaper option and will be replaced.

 

[Anonymous028]

In the defensive zone King spend most of his time between the top of the circle and the blue line This is what i'm calling cheating to the offensive zone. On the break out King is always the first one out of the defensive zone. I rarely if ever see him in his own zones corner. I spend time watching the left side of the ice mostly which means i see a lot of king clifford pearson and Gaborik. Number 74 frustrates with this game in game out I don't get why everyone thinks different when i see him do this Unless someone is taking 74 uniform or 74 changes to some one else i am talking the right person . just so im talking the same person its the guy 74 on his back and was a -3 right ?

Hell, selkie nominated Kopitar was a -2 this year. Plus minus is a terrible stat on it's own, it needs to be compared to those on the same team.

Comparing to someone on the same team...The guy with 23 on his back was a -17 this year, out scored king by a whopping one point, and makes three times what Dwight King does. Not to mention that he was given much more power play time, and given more offensive zone starts.

If a winger is down in the defensive zone corner, something is wrong. It's the centers job in this system to get back below the goal line. The wingers stay above the bottom of the circles to be available for breakout passes or get to the front of the net to defend home plate, and king does his job exactly as it is asked of him.

You are just making things up to justify your hate of a cheap & productive player. Quit it. We have 5+ million dollar players on this roster that need to be replaced, not 1.7M dollar wingers who can play on any given line.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Hell, selkie nominated Kopitar was a -2 this year. Plus minus is a terrible stat on it's own, it needs to be compared to those on the same team.

Comparing to someone on the same team...The guy with 23 on his back was a -17 this year, out scored king by a whopping one point, and makes three times what Dwight King does. Not to mention that he was given much more power play time, and given more offensive zone starts.

If a winger is down in the defensive zone corner, something is wrong. It's the centers job in this system to get back below the goal line. The wingers stay above the bottom of the circles to be available for breakout passes or get to the front of the net to defend home plate, and king does his job exactly as it is asked of him.

You are just making things up to justify your hate of a cheap & productive player. Quit it. We have 5+ million dollar players on this roster that need to be replaced, not 1.7M dollar wingers who can play on any given line.

Number 23 does a lot for this team He is our captain who is leads this team and top ten in the league in hits and penalties drawn. He has been a leader for this team on and off the ice I would love to have more dustin browns on this team. Yes he had a down year offensively but every one did even your loved king. Brown does a ton more then King and honestly trying to compare them.I take a home grown captain the leads us in hits 10/10 times.
I see every other lw down helping out clifford brown hell even gaborik What makes king so special he can't do this ? SImple he trying to be able to keep up with carter and toffoli and he simply doesnt have the speed to do it.

I am not making things up I call it as i see it and will continue even more now that your trying to tell me what to do . cause guess what my opinion is as valid as anyones in here and i will not be bullied into not posting my opinion.
Now the bolded point Kempe zykov Mersh weal are coming cheaper With clifford brown nolan all signed longer then king. Also king is 1.95 million cap not 1.7 btw. He will be the odd winger out imo

 

[Anonymous028]

Number 23 does a lot for this team He is our captain who is leads this team and top ten in the league in hits and penalties drawn. He has been a leader for this team on and off the ice I would love to have more dustin browns on this team. Yes he had a down year offensively but every one did even your loved king. Brown does a ton more then King and honestly trying to compare them.I take a home grown captain the leads us in hits 10/10 times.
I see every other lw down helping out clifford brown hell even gaborik What makes king so special he can't do this ? SImple he trying to be able to keep up with carter and toffoli and he simply doesnt have the speed to do it.

I am not making things up I call it as i see it and will continue even more now that your trying to tell me what to do . cause guess what my opinion is as valid as anyones in here and i will not be bullied into not posting my opinion.
Now the bolded point Kempe zykov Mersh weal are coming cheaper With clifford brown nolan all signed longer then king. Also king is 1.95 million cap not 1.7 btw. He will be the odd winger out imo

The only thing Brown brings to this team is an overblown cap hit, inopportune turnovers at both blue lines, and lots of "rah-rah" quotes to the media with ZERO action to back it up.

I'm not even gonna touch the rest of that. If you are one of the guys believing that brown is still a valuable piece to this roster, then you lack basic understanding of the game and what it is that made this team so successful. Especially in a cap era.

 

[Anonymous028]

Isn't this a draft discussion thread, anyways?

I'll quit feeding the fire.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

The only thing Brown brings to this team is an overblown cap hit, inopportune turnovers at both blue lines, and lots of "rah-rah" quotes to the media with ZERO action to back it up.

I'm not even gonna touch the rest of that. If you are one of the guys believing that brown is still a valuable piece to this roster, then you lack basic understanding of the game and what it is that made this team so successful. Especially in a cap era.

If were talking who is better on the kings roster Browns physical game while drawing penalties is more effective than king. I think you're the one lacking knowledge in the game if you're thinking brown doesn't contribute to the overall success of the kings We play a physical game and hits are a big part of it. Also how you can ignore the fact brown leads us in that is beyond me Also among the league leaders in getting us power plays The is very much helping the team. As for the bolded part I would like to point out that he had 242 hits I would call that a lot of action

 

[damacles1156]

The Best thing the Kings can do, is start restocking the cup board with these lottery picks.

No sense in trading away these 1-15 picks, when some of your Core is getting older and declining (Brown/Richards).

Should be a really good player that falls out of the top ten. Or maybe the Kings move some salary (A-Mart), and move into the top ten.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

The Best thing the Kings can do, is start restocking the cup board with these lottery picks.

No sense in trading away these 1-15 picks, when some of your Core is getting older and declining (Brown/Richards).

Should be a really good player that falls out of the top ten. Or maybe the Kings move some salary (A-Mart), and move into the top ten.

i think you mean 1-14 as pick 15 is a playoff team and not a lotto team

 

[Anonymous028]

The Best thing the Kings can do, is start restocking the cup board with these lottery picks.

No sense in trading away these 1-15 picks, when some of your Core is getting older and declining (Brown/Richards).

Should be a really good player that falls out of the top ten. Or maybe the Kings move some salary (A-Mart), and move into the top ten.

Ideally, I would like Marty to be moved to clear some salary & a roster spot for forbort. The asset(s) that we get in return would go a long ways towards securing the future. More so than a 4 million dollar 3rd pairing D.

Provided that we re-sign sekera, that is.

 

[apadilla]

Ideally, I would like Marty to be moved to clear some salary & a roster spot for forbort. The asset(s) that we get in return would go a long ways towards securing the future. More so than a 4 million dollar 3rd pairing D.

Provided that we re-sign sekera, that is.

About Alec, he helped us win the cup in '12 and then really helped in '14 by scoring the game 7 OT winner against Chicago in the Conference Finals and then scoring the Stanley Cup Winning goal against the Rangers. Alec has earned that 4 M, and on most teams he'd be a 2nd pairing guy. Even so, I wouldn't be totally against trading Alec, as long as the return is worth it.

 

[King'sPawn]

Daniel Sprong

 

[KINGS17]

KP,

Just wanted to thank you for the videos. I am enjoying them. They are very informative.

This pick is going to be critical for the Kings future. Somehow, someway Dean needs to turn this pick into a player that will be a #1 center in the future. At least that's my feeling.

 

[King'sPawn]

KP,

Just wanted to thank you for the videos. I am enjoying them. They are very informative.

This pick is going to be critical for the Kings future. Somehow, someway Dean needs to turn this pick into a player that will be a #1 center in the future. At least that's my feeling.

You're welcome, and as always, I'm glad you enjoy them! That means a lot, especially as I'm still trying to make things better

I agree this is a huge pick for the Kings, although I disagree with the urgency and need. I'm one of the few who still believes Kopitar will find his game and be productive for many years, because like Carter, he doesn't play in a way that will wear him down that quickly.

Of course, with this being the highest pick since 2009, the Kings need to make the pick count with whomever they get. I just don't think it has to become a #1 center for the long term health of the organization. It would be a great bonus, though!

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Zacha in flight:



I always say not to fall in love with a highlight reel (because that can hide deficiencies, etc.), but I think what I love most about this kid is how he does everything with the puck in stride and at speed, and goes to the net pretty recklessly. And that he occupies Kopi's spot on the PP but rockets one timers

Still absolutely adore Konecny's creativity though and I think Zacha gets taken before us anyway. Konecny reminds me a lil bit of Spezza here:

 

[Brodeur]

I still have the Kings sending 13+43 to move up to 10 for Zacha in my mock. Personally could see Colorado moving down if Werenski is off the board. Patrick Roy was openly criticizing some of their recent draft picks last summer and they subsequently fired their head scout in October. So I could see them trying to collect an extra pick to reshape their pool.

 

[Captain Mittens*]

I still have the Kings sending 13+43 to move up to 10 for Zacha in my mock. Personally could see Colorado moving down if Werenski is off the board. Patrick Roy was openly criticizing some of their recent draft picks last summer and they subsequently fired their head scout in October. So I could see them trying to collect an extra pick to reshape their pool.

Well considering how right you have been in the past, I hope you are right yet again

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Agreed, crossing my fingers for that!