2015-16 Around the League VIII

[kfan22]

Nah, good part is Avs control their own fate with the OTL

Since the teams have 1 more game left both teams control fate

 

[InjuredChoker]

The league doesn't really care about attendance.

So if they decide before the draft does Vegas get to draft then or that's not enough time to have a FO together to complete a draft?

this season is probably little early yeah and it would make sense to allow the new team(s) to build up their prospect pool first a bit and have one entry draft the year before the expansion draft.

so 2018 would make the most sense.

that means beauch is off the books but they'd have to protect bigras. along with zads, barrie/trade and/or EJ. EJ is the guy atm i'd think i'd leave unprotected if NMC goes aren't excluded from expansion draft.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Since the teams have 1 more game left both teams control fate

you're not going to win that game so avs control their own fate.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 21m21 minutes ago
Other pertinent expansion draft detail: teams must expose enough players which total at least 25 percent of previous season's payroll

 

[kfan22]

you're not going to win that game so avs control their own fate.

As A Wild fan right now the Wild dont deserve a playoff spot

 

[tigervixxxen]

Saw tweet about cap at 74M if they use the escalator. So that's good for us I guess.

 

[Foppa2118]

Crap, so currently that only means Beauch would be excluded/protected. Even Landy doesn't count in a couple years when it kicks in, because his is a modified NTC not a no move.

 

[tigervixxxen]

In 30 thoughts they clarified and said its 3D/7F OR 8 D/F, one goalie in either case.

 

[Ararana]

I don't think protecting the forwards is going to be a problem. Our defenseman and Pickard might get interesting.

I'd protect EJ, Barrie, and Zadorov. Bigras and Beauch should be exempt. LV can have Holden.

 

[henchman21]

some teams could have like 10 NMCs. so they could protect anyone. that wouldn't work.

but that would also mean they can't protect everyone with NMC if they have, say 12 players like that and you can't protect that many. so that wouldn't work either.

though i don't think any team will have that many in couple of years and they could prepare for it. so the latter would make slightly more sense if they bring that NMC unavailability in expansion.

There could be language that a certain amount of NHL players with a certain number of games have to be exposed, forcing teams to not being able to used the full protection amount.

 

[tigervixxxen]

I see it more as NMC guys must be protected, they won't be exempt.

 

[Foppa2118]

I see it more as NMC guys must be protected, they won't be exempt.

I don't think that's been officially clarified/decided yet.

 

[UncleRisto]

I see it more as NMC guys must be protected, they won't be exempt.

It has to be that way. That's the only way it makes any sense.

 

[tigervixxxen]

I don't think that's been officially clarified/decided yet.

If NMCs were exempt then every single contract signed this summer will have them.

 

[henchman21]

I see it more as NMC guys must be protected, they won't be exempt.

It is likely going to be a fight between the PA and the NHL. My guess, is the NHL will try to force exposure, PA will counter with absolutely not... then they agree on them being exempt, but not counting on the protection totals. Then teams will have to have a certain amount of players exposed, forcing some to not use the full allotment.

I didn't see the Lebrun tweet talked about. The at least 25% exposure on cap hit will force teams to expose some decent players. The player I see getting exposed and picked from the Avs is Soda.

 

[Foppa2118]

If NMCs were exempt then every single contract signed this summer will have them.

I don't think that's true. You get insanely handcuffed giving out NMC's unless they're great players on great contracts at the same time. Wouldn't be worth it IMO. I don't think we'd see that many more.

 

[UncleRisto]

Then again, I don't really see an NMC thing working one way or the other in today's NHL. They should just completely disregard them.

 

[henchman21]

Then again, I don't really see an NMC thing working one way or the other in today's NHL. They should just completely disregard them.

The NHL wants to do exactly that.

 

[Ivan13]

Wasn't it that the guys with NMC and NTC's counted against the number of players you can protect last go around? So essentially the Avs can only protect one D if I'm remembering it right.

PS

The decision in net will be an interesting one.

 

[Foppa2118]

It is likely going to be a fight between the PA and the NHL. My guess, is the NHL will try to force exposure, PA will counter with absolutely not... then they agree on them being exempt, but not counting on the protection totals. Then teams will have to have a certain amount of players exposed, forcing some to not use the full allotment.

I didn't see the Lebrun tweet talked about. The at least 25% exposure on cap hit will force teams to expose some decent players. The player I see getting exposed and picked from the Avs is Soda.

They might not have to with Soda. Say they sign Radulov, but they go on short term deals, starting with one year. Then they protect Matthias or replacement.

Duchene, Landy, MacKinon, Soda, Matthias, Comeau, Grigorenko

The D is more a concern if they're forced to protect Beauch. In that case, i think the 8 skaters is a better option. They can't arrord to lose EJ that early. Zadorov and Bigras won't be that ready to take over yet.

If they're lucky, Vegas values the compensatory pick they get when Rads leaves as a UFA and signs back with the Avs. That's what Nashville did with a couple of their picks last time. That would keep the Avs from losing anyone else. Maybe they can work out a side deal on top giving them extra value, to keep them from picking Soda or Comeau if they need to.

 

[henchman21]

With the requirement for the exposed players to account for 25% (about $16m for the Avs this year) of the payroll with require that at least one player with a decent salary is exposed. There isn't any way to get up there without exposing a player with a ~3.5+m salary. Soda looks like the one who could be exposed, and would help with the salary requirement.

 

[Foppa2118]

With the requirement for the exposed players to account for 25% (about $16m for the Avs this year) of the payroll with require that at least one player with a decent salary is exposed. There isn't any way to get up there without exposing a player with a ~3.5+m salary. Soda looks like the one who could be exposed, and would help with the salary requirement.

That's true forgot about that. These rules are so much more brutal than last time.

Why does Vegas need to be so competitive so quick? They're gonna get great attendance and make money regardless. This obsession with parity Bettman has is just silly IMO. Makes it feel like making the playoffs, or even winning the cup, is a crap shoot with everyone so good.

 

[InjuredChoker]

That's true forgot about that. These rules are so much more brutal than last time.

Why does Vegas need to be so competitive so quick? They're gonna get great attendance and make money regardless. This obsession with parity Bettman has is just silly IMO. Makes it feel like making the playoffs, or even winning the cup, is a crap shoot with everyone so good.

it's not going to be competitive team quick unless they are very well managed and gets a lot of good luck. they won't have any elite talent. just a lot of solid players with reasonable contracts. they'll be one of the worst teams in the league for a year or two.

 

[freeboy]

Saw tweet about cap at 74M if they use the escalator. So that's good for us I guess.

currently is what? thanks TV you do so much hope you feel the love!

 

[EdAVSfan]

Since the teams have 1 more game left both teams control fate

I know that.

It doesn't change what I wrote. The avs control whether or not they make the playoffs. They don't necessarily need outside help.

The same is true for the wild.

The point simply is, the avs don't need the wild to do them any favors if they want to make the playoffs. Had Minnesota won their game in regulation last night, the avs would need help from them.