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WJC: 2015 — Finland Roster Talk

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rduck1 said:
Lessons learned today:

- Kapanen can't play for the national team. Don't know why, but he can't. Some switch goes on in his head and he thinks he has to be a hero or something.

- First line needs muscle. Lehkonen, Mustonen and Kapanen lose too many battles one on one to play on the same line. Vähätalo could be a solution.

- Humility. They didn't have it today. Too much dangling and fanciness. It's nice that they have skill, but you still need to outwork the opposition. Possession doesn't count for jack if you can't convert.

PS. This is an angry post. Most likely it's hyperbolic and somewhat nonsensical. Possibly even downright wrong in some respects.
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Maybe just put the Ilves guys together?

1. Lehkonen-Mustonen-Hintz
2. Kapanen/ikonen-Björninen-Rantanen or maybe Kapanen-Rantanen-Ikonen?

And pls keep 2 defencemen on the PP.
 
Ville231 said:
By now it's pretty clear Finns are missing Teräväinen. Mustonen just doesn't look like a true #1 center. And what is up with Kapanen? If he's playing with an injury he should be sidelined. He's hurting the team at the moment. :shakehead

Anyways, fortunately Finland has a couple of games left to get their **** together. PP is dreadful, it seems like they can't even enter the off-zone.

On the positive side, Pulju looks really good. Might have been the best individual out there in tonight's game.
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Honka drove possession on several plays that got killed because a Finn forward couldn't handle his tape to tape passing. He was a big part of their push in that third period despite it being for naught.
 
Its pretty clear now that team finland is out of the medal competition.. they will most possibly not take down canada and if they dont they have to win against germany and hope that germany wins against slovakia.. Im so angry.... they was so close to win yestarday and.. today.. kapanen line need to sitt down and give they icetime to rantanen line.. Puljujärvi you are amazing! Kinda angry that you missed so many chanses.
 
fr9dd9 said:
Its pretty clear now that team finland is out of the medal competition.. they will most possibly not take down canada and if they dont they have to win against germany and hope that germany wins against slovakia.. Im so angry.... they was so close to win yestarday and.. today.. kapanen line need to sitt down and give they icetime to rantanen line.. Puljujärvi you are amazing! Kinda angry that you missed so many chanses.
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Well the game system has changed, 4 out of 5 teams get to QF. So I wouldn't count Finland out yet. :laugh:

They've played 1 good game 1 bad game. Anything is still possible.
 
Hintz - Mustonen - Lehkonen
Ikonen - Vähätalo - Rantanen
Aho - Kalapudas - Puljujärvi
Kapanen - Rauhala - Björninen

Ojamäki should sit the next game. Have Kapanen develop some motivation playing in the 4th line.
 
FiLe said:
IMO Pulju needs to replace Kapanen in the 1st.

What the 2nd line needs is more PP time. Pretty amazing that the only one who regularly sees PP minutes from our best unit is Ikonen. Hintz has it too frantically and Rantanen none at all. Is our coaching really that out of touch?
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I have to agree coaches seem out of touch with PP. The only logical explanation is that the 1st unit at least has some experience together, Jortikka said even they have practiced once and apparently FIN didn't get (much?) ice time practice this morning? Anyway, this needs to be fixed asap.

I get not benching Kapanen right away, no need to crush the confidence of a key player straight away but boy was he soft again in the latter part of the game. I actually thought he started the game quite well.

I agree with the comments saying 1st line needs more muscle, Lehkonen getting outmuscled at times. The trouble with mixing up the lines I that 2nd and 3rd lines have actually played well together. Something still needs to be done, though. Coaching staff will have a lot to think about. (Except the goalie situation which seems to have played itself out).

Further side note: Taivainen was terrible tonight, seemed really out of it.
 
I would keep Kapanen in the line-up against Canada and give him his last shot to show. However keep him out of the power play and put him in the third line and only let him play 5on5. If our next opponent would be Germany I would already drop Kapanen outside of the line-up, but maybe he will finally fire up for the Canada game which I doubt but we probably will lose against Canada anyways so that's Kapanen's final chance.

I would experiment and swap Puljujärvi and Kapanen for the Canada game and if it doesn't work keep the Kärppä-line together for the rest of the tournament and make it a permanent power player unit.
 
Hintz - Mustonen - Puljujärvi
Ikonen - Vähätalo - Rantanen
Aho - Kalapudas - Lehkonen
Björninen - Rauhala - Ojamäki

Something like that maybe... I don't know really. Third has no size, but there's always going to be one soft line with these players. Puljujärvi and Rantanen are the only forwards who are performing.
 
Opak said:
Hintz - Mustonen - Lehkonen
Ikonen - Vähätalo - Rantanen
Aho - Kalapudas - Puljujärvi
Kapanen - Rauhala - Björninen

Ojamäki should sit the next game. Have Kapanen develop some motivation playing in the 4th line.
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Not bad plan at all. Kapanen has been awful but it's not only his fault that line didn't work. Lehkonen is a question mark so Ilves duo and him would be an interesting thing to see.
 
You have 2 goals in 2 games with lots of PP's. Theres ALOT of guys not performing.
Coach should shuffle his lines.
 
Lehkonen - Mustonen - Puljujärvi
Ikonen - Hintz - Rantanen
Aho - Kalapudas - Kapanen
Björninen - Rauhala - Ojamäki

No need to mix it up more than necessary. If we could get two lines that can create chances and score, it will be enough for the bottom-six to maintain puck possession.

PP1:
Half wall - Mustonen
Point - Puljujärvi
Front of net - Lehkonen
Blueline - Honka-Ilvonen

PP2:
Half wall - Hintz
Point - Ikonen
Front of net - Rantanen
Blueline - Lyytinen-Kapanen (if KK keeps failing, give Niku a shot)
 
As I already mentioned before the tournament, the lack of quality (true 1st/2nd line caliber) centers are killing the team. Hintz is alright but he's not exactly a prototype for a playmaker. There are guys like Kapanen doing things on their own without having that leading centerman creating space and scoring chances. Second and propably even bigger problem lies in the defence. Apart from Honka they are barely capable of keeping the puck in the offensive zone. Really horrible thing to see. Guess Jortikka deserves a mention especially if you look at how he played the same PP unit over and over when they couldn't even break into o-zone most of the times.

Sadly, unless Puljujärvi grows into a leader at the age of 16yo and starts finishing these games single handledly I don't really see the team in the medal games. Really horrible luck against the Slovaks today but a lotta fun to watch.

Have to remember that Canada and USA f.ex. have a lot older teams where as Finland is stacked with underagers waiting to get drafted. Take that into consideration and it's not so bad. The team would look a lot better with Barkov.
 
After long considering, it all boils down to this option:

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Or, we can remember that we played very good team defense and created chances and had 28 shots against USA, dominated the 5 on 5 against slovakia, and have only been unlucky burying the chances. The ketchup bottle should pop up if we keep getting tons of chances.
 
FiLe said:
Blueline - Lyytinen-Kapanen (if KK keeps failing, give Niku a shot)
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I'd take Kapanen out the PP already. He can't handle the pressures or something or has been arrogant so give him a low key 5on5 only role for now. If he performs well there, give him a new perhaps temporary chance on the PP against Germany or in the first playoff game.
 
FiLe said:
Lehkonen - Mustonen - Puljujärvi
Ikonen - Hintz - Rantanen
Aho - Kalapudas - Kapanen
Björninen - Rauhala - Ojamäki
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Thats the way to go and the pp lines look really good aswell.

Mestaruus said:
I'd take Kapanen out the PP already. He can't handle the pressures or something or has been arrogant so give him a low key 5on5 only role for now. If he performs well there, give him a new perhaps temporary chance on the PP against Germany or in the first playoff game.
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Kapanen has lost the puck a lot on the blueline on powerplays when opponent is agressive on the left side, could be teams have scouted him as the catalyst for powerplay and are more aggressive on him or he just not getting it done smaller ice or putting effort.
 
Maybe Kapanen could just play on the wing on the powerplay, cause he's you know, uh, a winger. He doesn't even have particularly good abilities for playing the point.
 
Erikfromfin said:
Kapanen has lost the puck a lot on the blueline on powerplays when opponent is agressive on the left side, could be teams have scouted him as the catalyst for powerplay and are more aggressive on him or he just not getting it done smaller ice or putting effort.
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Well it's possible but it feels to me like it's mostly on him mentally.
 
This team isn't as strong as last year's team. There's noticeable lack of one Teravainen, one Ristolainen, and perhaps most noticeably; one Kivi.

Kapanen, Lehkonen, Rantanen, and Honka need to find a way to shoulder the offense of this team.

How about that Puljujarvi kid though? Had a great game. I'm surprised how engaged he was in the play and how he showed no shyness to his game.

So who starts in goal vs Canada?
 
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