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alphafox
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Lol. Pretty much my thought. Unless Dubi is traded for RNH and the Oilers 2015 1st he's untouchable. I expect some cap clearing to be done, however there are quite a few superior options. Gaborik, Umberger, Anisimov, Tyutin, Nikitn all are considerably less valuable to the team.
I'll say it here and you guys can hold me to it. If the Jackets trade Dubinsky, my days of an economically and emotionally invested Jackets fan is over. That's how strongly I feel about what Dubinsky means to the organization. With the exception of Tyler Wright and Kevin Dineen, this organization hasn't had too many players with the intensity of Dubie. What sets him apart is the skill level he plays with. He raises the level of his teammates. It would be an unmitigated disaster if GMJK would pull a move like this.
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In no particular order, scouts/team reps here at BUF/TOR game from: NJ, MTL, ANA (2), LA, STL, EDM, NYR, CHI, SJ, PHI, CBJ, PHX, NAS, DAL
In no particular order, scouts/team reps here at BUF/TOR game from: NJ, MTL, ANA (2), LA, STL, EDM, NYR, CHI, SJ, PHI, CBJ, PHX, NAS, DAL
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Which is why I asked - and now you answered. My initial reply to the "future lines" discussion assumed we were assuming that's how it would be in a couple of years and using that to determine a current course of action. Based on past history, with prospects throughout the league, that didn't seem wise, so I pointed out how that hadn't worked in the past.
That seemed to set you off, so I asked. Turns out it was just for fun. I can live with that.
See above. Totally misreading my post.
But I am interested - in the entire discussion. So I'm asking questions, seeking clarification and offering contributions. "What do you mean by this?", when not followed by "you stupid *******", pretty much means "what do you mean by this?" If you're not sure what I'm getting at, feel free to ask what I'm getting at.
It would also appear that you're blinded by logic and reason, then projecting them onto an inherently nonsensical Winnipeg team.
It seems to me that what Winnipeg really wants is to do nothing for their first four or five years, banking on their honeymoon period lasting that long to maintain the STH waiting list. Then they'll make a couple of moves to generate hype and excitement while talking about "sending a message", even if it's mere window dressing. We've seen this here; it's where Sergei Fedorov came from.
I went through Cheveldayoff's entire transaction history a couple days ago on the main boards. His biggest three trades have been picks for Frolik, Oduya for picks, and a pick for Setoguchi. In 2 1/2 years, that's all he's done. Having seen the way that Edmonton and Calgary have done things in the recent past, I don't think Winnipeg gives a damn if they win or lose, as long as people show up.
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Could be nothing, scouts just doing their job. But last trade deadline, it was said that the Blue Jackets and the Sabres had a deal in place for Drew Stafford. Then Gaborik became available and Jarmo went after him instead. I wonder if he still has interest in Stafford. Thing is, who goes and where does he fit? He has a cap hit of $4 million and has another year left before becoming a UFA.
Another possibility would be Ott. He would be a rent a player and has a NTC. Cap hit of $2.95 mil. Another Jarmo/JD type player with the leadership thing.
Matt Moulson??? Another soon to be UFA who adds scoring.
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Unless we want to give up our 1st and one of Rychel, Wennberg, Dano. Won't happen. Buffalo wants someone to back up the truck
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They do pay Buffalo within the next 2 weeks. Could also be just some advance work to prep for the game since they haven't played them for a while.
Even though Buffalo is a bad team, Stafford's stats are terrible. Not sure he'd be worth anything at this point.
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Lets hope they get what they want, cause of Moulson is worth a 1st and a top prospect than Gaborik would be worth at least that much.
Fair enough, but you could have just said that instead of posting the prospects that didn't work out. The only way to take that is, these players didn't work, so the current ones won't. That is the only thing to take out of that post when nothing but names of prospects who didn't develop are posted.
I don't believe they are even thinking of trading Dubinsky, but if they do, so be it. I am a fan of the Jackets and not one player. I think he is VERY valuable to this team, but if GMJK thinks we are a better team by trading him or any other player, they should do it.
I feel like you're leaving out some of the context of my position. I'm not necessarily opposed to trading Gabby. But to trade him to a team with which we are tied in the standings is really playing with fire. You'll have to inform me of the conditions of the Suter situation as is your tendency, but as you've laid it out above, there's no mention of who Nashville's suitors were and whether they figured in the playoff hunt.
Again, I can see trading the guy for assets. But to trade him to direct competition seems nutso to me. Disclosure: I'd like to see him stick here and rebound; I just can't see green lighting a trade to a team that we want to beat out.
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If you say so.
Of course, if everyone posted exactly what they meant, I wouldn't have attempted to shed light on a post that was just a fun exercise in prospect projection instead of a legitimate attempt to predict the NHL roster multiple seasons down the road.
If Jarmo has his way Dubie will be cottaging it up in the summers with Kenny Holland and helping the Red Wings, just like Wright
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The first time I read this I thought it said "Don't tell me you believe IN Garrioch?" And I will admit I think it stretches the boundaries of credulity.
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I used to use that feature until one day every thread consisted of only my posts...
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Interesting that #CBJ scouting the Bruins and Stars tonight. Done with Boston this season, and don't play Dallas until March.
Interesting that #CBJ scouting the Bruins and Stars tonight. Done with Boston this season, and don't play Dallas until March.
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