2014 Trade Deadline Thread (All General Deadline Talk/Proposals/Blog Rumors in here)

[Mayor Bee]

I think you could get a guy like Thomas Greiss (if Phoenix is out), Al Montoya, or, dare I say, Tim Thomas for nothing more than a late round pick or a prospect with a questionable chance of playing regular NHL minutes and you'd be foolish not to.

Thomas has an NTC, and Florida has only four goalies under contract (him, Markstrom, Clemmensen, and Michael Houser). Greiss might make sense; Phoenix had committed to Smith for the long term, and there's five goalies under contract (those two plus Visentin, Louis Domingue, and Mike Lee).

Montoya...to be blunt, I have absolutely no clue what Winnipeg is doing. We can criticize Edmonton until the cows come home for not being able to do anything with a pretty good stable of young players, but Winnipeg inherited:
- A greater stable of young players
- A lot more of those guys just entering their prime or in their prime
- A decent front office, if they'd wanted to keep them around.

In Edmonton's case, Kevin Lowe's ineptitude has been well established. At least they occasionally try to do something. Winnipeg is the poster child for "do nothing, hope everything good happens". They've made no moves of consequence in close to three years, and every one of those developing young players has completely flatlined. Ondrej Pavelec actually looked like he'd be an excellent goalie; the move happens and he's regressed. Not stagnated, but actually regressed.

Right now, Winnipeg has six goalies under contract, and I have no clue what they're doing with any of them. Pavelec has three more years after this and Montoya is a pending UFA, but I can't say that they'll try to re-sign Montoya. They could buy out Pavelec this summer, see Montoya hit UFA status anyway, and go into next year with Eddie Pasquale and Juho Olkinuora as their tandem. It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

That said, I maintain that Winnipeg would make an intriguing trading partner. They've done nothing for so long that they have a fan base that's actually clamoring for anything to be done. There's the chance for them to pull a Doug MacLean type of move: acquire a big name, and forsake a couple of guys who will actually be good NHL players to do so. (*cough*, Burmistrov and Kulda)

 

[Mayor Bee]

I heard on Rogers Sportsnet that Edmonton is holding its scouting staff meetings in Columbus this week. Every team typically holds a set of in season meetings like this. As often as not, they are held in a warm place like Florida or California. I guess if you're from Edmonton, Columbus is a warm place.

I'd have to imagine that there's been a lot of OHL and college scouting taking place. If what's been said about this being an OHL-heavy draft with some USNTDP is true, then it would make sense.

Do we have good info on this? Basically what kinds of scouts are here and why are they here?

3) To figure out how Columbus was able to turn it around so fast?

If they want the answer to that question, he's sitting in the room between Lowe and MacTavish. If they don't want to ask him, I'm always free to answer questions.

 

[major major]

I'd have to imagine that there's been a lot of OHL and college scouting taking place. If what's been said about this being an OHL-heavy draft with some USNTDP is true, then it would make sense.



If they want the answer to that question, he's sitting in the room between Lowe and MacTavish. If they don't want to ask him, I'm always free to answer questions.

Well I'm sure they could ask him, but maybe its not sinking in and they want to take a field trip with the professor to really drill it home.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Well I'm sure they could ask him, but maybe its not sinking in and they want to take a field trip with the professor to really drill it home.

I have a name, you know.

 

[EDM]

I did not know Craig Patrick was in Edmonton.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Do we have good info on this? Basically what kinds of scouts are here and why are they here?

1) To shop for players available in trades? Unless we crash, there won't be any trades.

2) To talk about acquiring some guys in the summer? Signing Nikitin, acquiring others in trades?

3) To figure out how Columbus was able to turn it around so fast?

Teams usually call the entire scouting staff in for a series of meetings. The pro scouts are reviewing evaluations for the upcoming trade deadline, amateur scouts are giving updates on their analyses for the summer draft.

The fact that it is in Columbus probably has nothing at all to do with the Jackets. Teams either pick a location that's convenient for the entire staff or a warm weather place for a little mid-season getaway, meetings then a little golf.

I'd have to imagine that there's been a lot of OHL and college scouting taking place. If what's been said about this being an OHL-heavy draft with some USNTDP is true, then it would make sense.

I could see that. I've never heard of meetings here. I do know of similar meetings in the Detroit/Windsor area for the very same reason.

 

[DJA]

I imagine Columbus is fairly centrally located and easy for scouts to get to from all over North America.

 

[CBJ Tiffin]

I did not know Craig Patrick was in Edmonton.

As of a couple weeks ago, he was working for the Sabres as a special advisor.

 

[pete goegan]

I did not know Craig Patrick was in Edmonton.

As of a couple weeks ago, he was working for the Sabres as a special advisor.

You were bypassed by EDM's subtlety.

 

[EspenK]

New internet definition of fast: A period not to exceed 6 years

 

[Viqsi]

I heard on Rogers Sportsnet that Edmonton is holding its scouting staff meetings in Columbus this week. Every team typically holds a set of in season meetings like this. As often as not, they are held in a warm place like Florida or California. I guess if you're from Edmonton, Columbus is a warm place.

Alternatively, Howson worked here for several years and probably knows a lot of nice places to stay.

Heck, it may also be a sign that they're trying to take his advice seriously, seeing how the Jackets are doing with the roster he assembled.

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That said, I maintain that Winnipeg would make an intriguing trading partner. They've done nothing for so long that they have a fan base that's actually clamoring for anything to be done. There's the chance for them to pull a Doug MacLean type of move: acquire a big name, and forsake a couple of guys who will actually be good NHL players to do so. (*cough*, Burmistrov and Kulda)

I'm not sure what it is about Kulda that keeps catching your eye, but I would be all about poaching Burmistrov.

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Teams usually call the entire scouting staff in for a series of meetings. The pro scouts are reviewing evaluations for the upcoming trade deadline, amateur scouts are giving updates on their analyses for the summer draft.

The fact that it is in Columbus probably has nothing at all to do with the Jackets. Teams either pick a location that's convenient for the entire staff or a warm weather place for a little mid-season getaway, meetings then a little golf.

The weather forecast would suggest otherwise. If anything, it'd make Edmonton folks feel more at home.

 

[The Mars Volchenkov]

The Blue Jackets have scouted the Avs a good bit lately and have two more scouts at their game tonight, including John Davidson. Just passing along the info.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

The Blue Jackets have scouted the Avs a good bit lately and have two more scouts at their game tonight, including John Davidson. Just passing along the info.

Interesting.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Alternatively, Howson worked here for several years and probably knows a lot of nice places to stay.

Heck, it may also be a sign that they're trying to take his advice seriously, seeing how the Jackets are doing with the roster he assembled.

Kevin Lowe listens to the following people:
- Craig MacTavish
- Mark Messier
- Glenn Anderson
- Paul Coffey
- Esa Tikkanen, but no one actually understands what the hell he's saying

I'm not sure what it is about Kulda that keeps catching your eye, but I would be all about poaching Burmistrov.

Make sure to record the Olympic games that have Latvia. If he plays like he used to (and he's not even 26 yet), he looks like a young Hejda.

 

[MFRONE]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 3m
#CBJ POHOP John Davidson and GM Jarmo Kekalainen watched COL @ FLA on Friday. Davidson came home today, Kekalainen went to COL @ TB tonight.

Who do we want from Colorado (other than Duchene and Landeskog)?

 

[Sore Loser]

Who do we want from Colorado (other than Duchene and Landeskog)?

No way they deal either of those guys.

One name I hear about on the rumor mill is Ryan O'Reilly. The Avalanche would be looking for help defensively, so I would have to throw out names like Erixon, Goloubef, even Nikitin, Tyutin, as well as our first round pick.

Couple two of those assets together, and you can start to talk to them about O'Reilly, I'd imagine.

 

[MFRONE]

Unless we trade for another dman, not sure why we would trade Tyutin or Nikitin

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

No way they deal either of those guys.

One name I hear about on the rumor mill is Ryan O'Reilly. The Avalanche would be looking for help defensively, so I would have to throw out names like Erixon, Goloubef, even Nikitin, Tyutin, as well as our first round pick.

Couple two of those assets together, and you can start to talk to them about O'Reilly, I'd imagine.

But the CBJ are close to the cap. if its O'Reilly as a target, I'm guessing Gaborik goes to Colorado because of O'Reilly's 5 million cap hit.

I'm just not sure I see them moving O'Reilly when they are in a playoff race and he's one of their leading scorers. He's RFA so he still has trade value in the off season if they can't resign him.

 

[Mayor Bee]

No way they deal either of those guys.

One name I hear about on the rumor mill is Ryan O'Reilly. The Avalanche would be looking for help defensively, so I would have to throw out names like Erixon, Goloubef, even Nikitin, Tyutin, as well as our first round pick.

Couple two of those assets together, and you can start to talk to them about O'Reilly, I'd imagine.

Can't forget that O'Reilly would have that massive qualifying number going into next year ($6.5 mil).

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

I sort of wonder if its Alex Tanguay.

He's missed time with a sprained knee and Colorado has played well without him. Has 2 more years after this year with a 3.5 cap hit. Is a veteran presence/scoring winger who has won a cup and still seems to be putting up decent numbers. he's primarily a LW if I remember correctly.

He does have a limited NMC though.

 

[DJA]

Who do we want from Colorado (other than Duchene and Landeskog)?

Parenteau? Nvm, he's hurt. I'm on board with ROR.

 

[Sore Loser]

But the CBJ are close to the cap. if its O'Reilly as a target, I'm guessing Gaborik goes to Colorado because of O'Reilly's 5 million cap hit.

I'm just not sure I see them moving O'Reilly when they are in a playoff race and he's one of their leading scorers. He's RFA so he still has trade value in the off season if they can't resign him.

Can't forget that O'Reilly would have that massive qualifying number going into next year ($6.5 mil).

Going off of the obvious, honestly. There is talk all over the league that the Avalanche are looking to deal O'Reilly. The fact that JD would be checking out a game means that it's not going to be a Corey Tropp type of pick up, if something is in the works. Cap hit aside, he's a guy that would be an obvious target for a team with a gritty, two-way type of identity. And, he fits right into our age group.

 

[EspenK]

Going off of the obvious, honestly. There is talk all over the league that the Avalanche are looking to deal O'Reilly. The fact that JD would be checking out a game means that it's not going to be a Corey Tropp type of pick up, if something is in the works. Cap hit aside, he's a guy that would be an obvious target for a team with a gritty, two-way type of identity. And, he fits right into our age group.

Cap hit aside is like saying a bunch of years and pounds aside I'd be hot (well, at least better than I look now)

 

[db2011]

Cap hit aside is like saying a bunch of years and pounds aside I'd be hot (well, at least better than I look now)

or bad jokes aside you have a good sense of humor

 

[Sore Loser]

Cap hit aside is like saying a bunch of years and pounds aside I'd be hot (well, at least better than I look now)

Did anyone honestly see us trading for Marian Gaborik last year, before it happened?