2014 Stanley Cup Playoffs: We're In!!! Let's talk (Clinched 2nd Place)
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Not when it comes to wins and losses. Those are as ironclad as it gets. No points are distributed for the "coulda won" team.
As well it should. The last handful of games have shown that the Rangers have trouble handling the forecheck. And teams that come with heavy pressure. That does not make for a good playoff experience.
Thirty One
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Thirty One
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Yes. Wins and losses are black and white. Their value in predicting future wins and losses is more complicated, however.
Ail
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Yes and at what point are you no longer discussing and simply *****ing or complaining because things didn't go how you would have had them go? There is a difference.
Ail
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"The last handful of games" does not define a team. You are what your record says. (a playoff team)
I have high hopes for this team in the playoffs.
Apparently the last few games show we are poor against a solid forecheck? That's not what I see at all.
The team shows up when they have a tougher opponent or when they have their backs against the wall. They deal just fine with harder forechecks when they need to show up.
There seems to be a prediction every stage of the season about how the Rangers will fail. In December, we had a "brutal" schedule in the month of January that would "likely" knock us out of playoff contention. The team had a great month of January.
In February, it was that we'd get out of sync with the 2.5 week hiatus for the Olympics.
In March, we'd finally see how "flawed" the Rangers were, when we played a tougher group of opponents than we played in January. After a sluggish start from the Olympic break, the Rangers quickly began playing up to their standards when their backs were up against the wall and they've taken control of the 2nd seed since then.
Now? Now we're not physical enough for playoff standards. Now we don't react well to quality forechecks (is that even able to be proven)? Why even watch this team if you guys expect them to fail?
Apparently the last few games show we are poor against a solid forecheck? That's not what I see at all.
The team shows up when they have a tougher opponent or when they have their backs against the wall. They deal just fine with harder forechecks when they need to show up.
There seems to be a prediction every stage of the season about how the Rangers will fail. In December, we had a "brutal" schedule in the month of January that would "likely" knock us out of playoff contention. The team had a great month of January.
In February, it was that we'd get out of sync with the 2.5 week hiatus for the Olympics.
In March, we'd finally see how "flawed" the Rangers were, when we played a tougher group of opponents than we played in January. After a sluggish start from the Olympic break, the Rangers quickly began playing up to their standards when their backs were up against the wall and they've taken control of the 2nd seed since then.
Now? Now we're not physical enough for playoff standards. Now we don't react well to quality forechecks (is that even able to be proven)? Why even watch this team if you guys expect them to fail?
aufheben
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It's a matter of question marks is all.
This is a team with a coach and a system that don't have playoff experience together. Right now the Rangers seem to thriving under the system AV has put in place. But the playoffs are a whole new level of play.
How will they adjust as they move thru it? The Rangers have a chance. Things have to fall in place and they need to catch some breaks. It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. Especially if Hank gets and stays hot.
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aufheben
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Also, can people leave the "Real Fan" bs at the door? I don't care whether you're a pessimist, optimist, or a ****ing nihilist, we're all fans of the same team, and obviously care about the team if we're on a forum discussing them.
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Ail
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Just like ignoring the teams successes and only seeing what you want to see? I can give you a "few examples" of when this team has looked like an elite possession team and dominated games, but those don't count. Your double standards are comical.
Ail
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In the future you could try to make your points more clear.
For example:
"The Rangers have trouble handling the forecheck all year, as further evidenced by the last handful of games."
Is much more clear of the fact that you are using the whole season as a gauge than:
"The last handful of games have shown that the Rangers have trouble handling the forecheck."
Playoff tendencies:
Defenses tighten up.
Less risks taken to stretch ice.
Teams try to clog up the neutral zone.
Forechecking is key.
Goalies can govern the course of a series.
Seems to me that we've been losing a fair amount of our series' over the last 6-7 years because we don't have much balance. Our top lines never produce as they're up against the hardest defensive pairings. We never had the depth and balance to be able to legitimately threaten another team with our lower lines.
I think the Rangers will wear out any team with their balance this year. Our defense trumps the other 7 teams we can potentially face in the East (if McDonagh is healthy).
Our speed will allow us to naturally open up the ice while reducing risks.
We have an excellent puck possession system in place and our bottom two lines do a great job at forechecking and generating scoring chances off of this.
We have a top 3 goalie.
I think it's far easier to make a problem out of nothing. Recent games is far from a good sample size, no?
You're using that as an argument that trumps a far greater sample size - the season.
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So in the playoffs both forechecking and clogging up the neutral zone (lack of forechecking) is more prominent?
k.
I'm pretty sure Torts focused on both during our ECF run several years back. Take away the neutral zone, then try and pin them in their own zone.
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Crappier goaltender. Crappier defense. Crappier overall offense. *
Columbus goalie >>
Columbus defense >>
Columbus offense is more balanced too, although not as talented on the first line. >
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