Speculation: 2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread III

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I wonder who they are. Would Chicago try and poach him for Sharp?

I'll go with Anaheim, St.Louis, and Minnesota as the Western teams, and Pittsburgh as the dark horse Eastern team. Chicago is looking to shed cap space, not add it.
 
I wonder which of the RFA's are actually going to elect to go to arbitration...

For instance, what if we gave Moore is QO of $850k... Damn, that's cheap and I can't see him being eligible for much more!
 
That "shell of himself" would have led the Rangers in points, goals, and assists last year [not including MSL's full year totals] (and had the worst +/- on the team. Was that a factor of playing for Ottawa, though?)

Not to mention PPGs, PPAs, and PPPs, too.

I'd rather Pitt trade Neal and some futures for him. They lose a dimension that actually makes them difficult to play against and become more of a one trick pony. They'd look spectacularly offensive during the regular season and then have a rude awakening towards the playoffs.

Or if he goes to Phi, he'd likely look completely lost. Their first line has the most talent and now that they've lost Hartnell, that's even less wingers for them to slot on their 2nd line w/ Spezza.

CLB woud be the worst case scenario, cause they'll have actually established a very balanced and dangerous line up.
 
Definitely understand the uneasiness with ROR contract issues.

I will say if he didn't have those risks there is a 0% chance he could be had for Staal (+). It's a calculated risk to add a difference maker at the most important position in the game. And that is what I certainly believe he is.
 
I'll go with Anaheim, St.Louis, and Minnesota as the Western teams, and Pittsburgh as the dark horse Eastern team. Chicago is looking to shed cap space, not add it.

I'm thinking Pitt, too. Neal + futures.

I'm secretly hoping this happens.
 
Pretty sure another good center is the last thing Pitt needs. Seriously now. Come on.

They could move Spezza to RW on the Malkin line or they could move Malkin back to the wing on Crosby's line.
 
That "shell of himself" would have led the Rangers in points, goals, and assists last year [not including MSL's full year totals] (and had the worst +/- on the team. Was that a factor of playing for Ottawa, though?)

Not to mention PPGs, PPAs, and PPPs, too.

Go ask Ottwa fans, Kyle Turris was there best all-around center and it wasn't close. He is not good and he is on a downward spiral with his back. He doesn't skate well and he is bad defensively. Not a player I want the Rangers to bring in to be their #1. It's Richards again.
 
Also, I'd be pretty upset if the team that McKenzie is talking about out of the East was actually the Rangers, not only because I don't want Spezza on this team but because that would mean that Sather is allocating his time chasing pipe dreams rather than locking down our own guys.
 
Why not make the RFA an offer before they can test the market and leave it up to them to decide whether or not to test their value? We'd always have the option to match or better the other offer, but how does making an offer RFA hurt us?

Every one of our RFAs will get an offer by June 30th. A Qualifying Offer is required to retain their rights beyond June 30th. If we don't give them a QO by then, they become Unrestricted Free Agents.

Qualifying Offers are based on actual salary in the most recent year of their contract. Anything under 600k (I think) gets a QO of 110%. From 600k to 1 mil gets a QO of 105%. Anything over 1 mil gets a QO of 100%.

So a player who's salary was 700k last year would get a QO of 735k (105% of 700).

Yes, Sather could offer them something other than the QO before July 1st and for all we know, he already has. Just because it hasn't been reported doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
 
Go ask Ottwa fans, Kyle Turris was there best all-around center and it wasn't close. He is not good and he is on a downward spiral with his back. He doesn't skate well and he is bad defensively. Not a player I want the Rangers to bring in to be their #1. It's Richards again.

Richards got us to the SCF.

Spezza will be here for one year and is far better offensively today than Richards is. And even more importantly, it keeps Brassard's line as the third-line getting third-line matchups. Depth.

I'd take one year of "Richards again"
 
Okay, but that's dumb considering the likely cost.

New coach, unproven. New GM, looking to come back to prominence after screwing Carolina.

Core group of guys that was rumored to experience some form of shake up this offseason, regardless.

Neal and Letang were the two guys most talked about being shipped for a change of faces. I think they won't sell low on Letang, but I think they could sell high on Neal.

Spezza would only make their #1 powerplay, even better =/

Either way, it would be a move I would welcome... as the Penguins would get a whole lot softer up front.
 
Also, I'd be pretty upset if the team that McKenzie is talking about out of the East was actually the Rangers, not only because I don't want Spezza on this team but because that would mean that Sather is allocating his time chasing pipe dreams rather than locking down our own guys.

There's absolutely no indication that Sather is not paying attention to locking up our UFAs. It takes two to tango, maybe a hanfull of them don't want to.
 
There's absolutely no indication that Sather is not paying attention to locking up our UFAs. It takes two to tango, maybe a hanfull of them don't want to.

Moore said (last night) that he wanted to remain with the Rangers, would make it simple for them to keep him, but up until that point his agent and their F.O had not been in contact.

You don't think that they'd have touched base with him, by now? It's likely an indication that others, if not all of our pending fa's, have not been talked to yet.
 
Senators want "A top end player who can play in the top 6, high end prospect, and first round draft pick" for Spezza.

Are they ****ing high?

And if they get that... Staal's value would be enormous. There's about as many centermen that are available as there are defenders (in terms of high-end caliber).

This is when you sell high. If Ottawa goes ahead and gets a type of return like that.
 
Richards got us to the SCF.

Spezza will be here for one year and is far better offensively today than Richards is. And even more importantly, it keeps Brassard's line as the third-line getting third-line matchups. Depth.

I'd take one year of "Richards again"

Except we can't afford 1 year of Richards or Spezza without trading players or letting players walk as UFAs. So that "depth" isn't really as deep as you think.
 
Except we can't afford 1 year of Richards or Spezza without trading players or letting players walk as UFAs. So that "depth" isn't really as deep as you think.

The center depth (which is what I was referring to, my mistake for not typing that out) is better than it was a year ago.

Then you deal with the fact that you're losing Hagelin+Miller after the fact. Hagelin would be a huge loss. Miller, meh. Spezza would be a big gain.

So funny to see how big of the minority I'm in here though. Usually I'm full on board with the masses :laugh:

Over the weekend, assuming all things hold pat, I'm gonna type out a pretty big post that I'm sure no one will read that really explains my thinking here, and what I'd like the team to look like come October :)
 
Looking at the package that Ott wants, i'm comfortable and confident that we are not in fact talking to them about trading for Spezz.

From the East, my top 4 teams to trade for him: CLB, Det, Pitt, Phi - in that order

From the West, my top 3 teams to trade for him: Dal, Ana, Stl - in that order

Would love Dallas to swoop in and get him.
 
Richards got us to the SCF.

Spezza will be here for one year and is far better offensively today than Richards is. And even more importantly, it keeps Brassard's line as the third-line getting third-line matchups. Depth.

I'd take one year of "Richards again"

I wouldn't. Richards was the weakest link for the SCF. If they are upgrading C they need to be better than Richards again. Way better.
 
Go ask Ottwa fans, Kyle Turris was there best all-around center and it wasn't close. He is not good and he is on a downward spiral with his back. He doesn't skate well and he is bad defensively. Not a player I want the Rangers to bring in to be their #1. It's Richards again.

There are a lot of Ottawa Fans, that are very illiterate at the game of Hockey. Spezza will be a ppg game player regardless of where he goes as long as he gets a good winger, (he could reboot Nash, Like he did with Hemsky). He is a top 10 Offensive Centermen in this league, He finished top 10 in faceoffs this season while NYR's best finished at #22 (Stepan), Like the majority of players in this league Spezza has his weakness's but his strengths heavily outweigh his weakness's, Spezza is a player you can build your team around, The only reason he is being moved is because he requested a trade, and Ottawa is no where near contending and still Murray wants to keep him, that says a lot about Spezza.
 
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