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Depends on who else is still there. For example, I would take a guy like Ryan Rehill ahead of him in a heartbeat.
Prospect Info: 2014 NHL Draft Thread (6/27-7PM; 6/28-10AM)
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Depends on who else is still there. For example, I would take a guy like Ryan Rehill ahead of him in a heartbeat.
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Again I think it's pretty clear looking at all the rankings that there is very little consensus after the top 5. Your arbitrary cutoff of 3 spots higher is dependent on which ranking you think is the most accurate.
All of these 'experts' have dramatically different top 10 lists from each other this year. I can see why the CBJ are pretty confident that one of their top 10 players will be there at 16. It is a reasonable bet that whoever they pick will be in the top 10 in at least one of these rankings but will be above 20 in at least one other ranking.
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Someone (RDreisen?) explained that quote in the way I read it, which is that CBJ rankings don't likely match everyone else's. Which would seem to be supported by what McKenzie tweeted re:difficulty reaching consensus.
Why limit it that much? I can understand saying you can't pick the top 2-4 guys, but I doubt anyone would do that.
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CBJProspects' "mock draft"...his annual look at good fits in each spot for CBJ...
http://www.theunionblue.com/2014/06/24/2014-cbj-mock-draft/
http://www.theunionblue.com/2014/06/24/2014-cbj-mock-draft/
Sore Loser
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For those of you who don't feel like listening to Craig Button ramble for 25 minutes, he has us taking Sonny Milano at 16.
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cbj write up on barbasol...
http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=720118
yes, that was on purpose...
http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=720118
yes, that was on purpose...
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I'd be happy if we picked him. May not be my number 1 guy, but he is in the group of guys I like for the 16th overall pick.
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With so many players being considered "equal" or similar in the top 50, I actually hope we get Toronto's pick (from ANA) this year. I really like a lot of the players in this draft. If we intend to use the picks, I hope it's this year. I think the 2015 would hold more value in a trade though. There are several players I like that could be available at 16 and at 38. That's crazy.
I agree. I have a feeling some of the guys I like at 16 will still be available in the 20's and maybe even 30's.
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I think I've changed my mind on Tuch. I want Barbashev after all i've read and seen of him. Unless someone like Virtanen falls, I'd be cool with any of Barbashev, Tuch, Milano, and Honka in that order.
JacketsFanWest
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Yeah, this attitude is going to work so well on the Jackets:
I really hope St Louis drafts him.
Yeah, this attitude is going to work so well on the Jackets:
I really hope St Louis drafts him.
He sounds like an incredible tool. Short of actually committing a crime, I'm not sure he could have torpedoed his draft stock any more than he did with that interview. Do not want.
Yeah, this attitude is going to work so well on the Jackets:
Ain't that general coaching style used at least in Swedish football and most likely in ice hockey too? Coaches heavily rely on feedback that players are free to give during training sessions. Questions asked and answered.
Someone is trying to get Ho-Sang's stock to fall with these stories just before draft...
JacketsFanWest
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It's more like the Millennials' attitude that's now extending to hockey. It's one thing to have input from players, but another to want to be able to tell your coach he's an idiot.
US companies are having a lot of issues with recent college graduates coming into the workforce and wanting to immediately tell off their bosses about how things should be run and what's wrong with the company. If that's just the average Millennial coming out of college, what are hockey players who have been nearly celebrities since they were 13 and used to being worshipped going to do? I wonder how much of that sort of generational thing is impacting how prospects are viewed by older scouts/GMs/coaches and why scouts are less enamored with prospects each year.
But Ho Sang is perfectly happy with coaches calling him an idiot and telling him to shut up, so it might all work out.
IMO, taking the risk that a prospect will grow-up and mature and have an attitude adjustment isn't a risk worth taking. The Jackets have wasted too many draft picks on those types of players.
Maybe it's just a 17/18 year old saying something stupid, but Ho Sang has been in the media more as a high profile prospect in the Toronto area. Common sense should tell him not to say something like that to ESPN. I'd rather the CBJ filter out the prospects with the work ethic and attitude problems. There's a better chance that a prospect with good work ethic is going to be able to put the effort into improving (for example, Boone Jenner) than a prospect with entitlement issues.
If Ho Sang drops to the 3rd round, maybe. Same with Anthony DeAngelo. But there are likely players who deserve to be drafted instead of them. But they're the type of players that hopefully the scouting department has talked to coaches and teammates about. The CBJ have connection in Windsor with Bob Boughner, and Trevor Letowski is DeAngelo's coach that has suspended him multiple times in Sarnia. Maybe they can turn things around, but I'd rather the CBJ be the type of team that character and work ethic are defining characteristics of draft picks. They no longer need to scrap the bottom of the barrel to find some home-run draft pick.
CBJSlash
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If Boughner says Ho Sang is alright, I'm cool with it. If Jarmo and JD are on board, let's go.
He seems like a good kid, just an entitled one. He strikes as more philosophical than a tool. We've all met the teenage philosopher.
If he loves playing hockey, I'd go for it. We have so many solid prospects taking a stab at a potentially great one is worth it.
He seems like a good kid, just an entitled one. He strikes as more philosophical than a tool. We've all met the teenage philosopher.
If he loves playing hockey, I'd go for it. We have so many solid prospects taking a stab at a potentially great one is worth it.
