2014 Kings vs. 2024 Panthers

[SnowblindNYR]

This is a bit of a self serving thread because both teams eliminated my Rangers and that's the main reason I didn't choose the 2012 Kings. But also that 2012 Kings team lost so few games that maybe it would be an unfair comparison. I feel like both of these teams played a similarly hard forechecking style. Maybe the Panthers were a bit more skilled and faster. But the Panthers also had no one like Doughty on their defense. Kopitar vs. Barkov is an interesting matchup. The Kings had no one like Tkachuk.

Click to read more...

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

This is a bit of a self serving thread because both teams eliminated my Rangers and that's the main reason I didn't choose the 2012 Kings. But also that 2012 Kings team lost so few games that maybe it would be an unfair comparison. I feel like both of these teams played a similarly hard forechecking style. Maybe the Panthers were a bit more skilled and faster. But the Panthers also had no one like Doughty on their defense. Kopitar vs. Barkov is an interesting matchup. The Kings had no one like Tkachuk.

Maybe not so much at forward, not a blend of skill and physicality anyway. They had plenty of grit though, and their back end was full of assholes with Mitchell, Regehr, Greene, and young Doughty and Muzzin were extremely physical that run as well.

 

[Rorschach]

Kings aren't losing but Florida is formidable. Kings will win the big 7th game because that's what the 2014 Kings do.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

That's true, you just could not kill the 2014 Kings

 

[CanadienShark]

Kings in 6

 

[SettlementRichie10]

The 2014 Kings could not be beaten. Up in a series, down in a series. Regulation. Overtime. Grind you out defensively. Outscore you in a barn burner. Injured. Healthy. Didn’t matter. That team was inevitable.

No disrespect to Florida but the 2014 Kings were indestructible.

 

[x Tame Impala]

That Kings squad was on a mission that year.

Kopitar, Quick, and Doughty are also a notch or so better than Barkov, Bobrovsky, and Forsling. Doughty being MUCH better.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Kings pretty easily, surprising results so far

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Kangs

 

[FinlandPanther]

I think this one goes to game 7 for sure. People are going to get a bad taste in their mouth for Florida after they lost game 4,5 and 6. Both teams were built VERY similar. That being said Doughty and Quick are better than Bob and Forsling. Although Forsling is still an underrated freak on this board. People still don’t realize how dominant Barkov was when he was on the ice. He was GREAT offensively and absolutely Dominant defensively.

 

[dgibb10]

Seems like an overrating of what that King teams was.

They were not some dominant force.

6th seed (10th in the league) who needed 7 games in every series on the way to the finals.

 

[Ghetty Green]

Seems like an overrating of what that King teams was.

They were not some dominant force.

6th seed (10th in the league) who needed 7 games in every series on the way to the finals.

They also played the 3 best teams in the league that year and won three Game 7s on the road against all of them

 

[dgibb10]

They also played the 3 best teams in the league that year and won three Game 7s on the road against all of them

They didn't play Boston, the team with the best record and goal differential that year.

Going to a bunch of games game 7 is not a positive.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Panthers are really good but that Kings team couldn’t be killed. Kings in 6

 

[Ghetty Green]

They didn't play Boston, the team with the best record and goal differential that year.

Going to a bunch of games game 7 is not a positive.

Boston gets worked by 2014 Sharks, Ducks & Hawks.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Why do I feel like if the Kings didn't also win in 2012 or it was a franchise that wasn't as highly touted that the three game 7s would be viewed much more negatively? As is it's seen as a credit to them but if say the 2018 Caps or 2019 Blues two good franchises but not as highly touted as the Kings, did that it would be viewed as them not being good enough to win in a more dominant fashion?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Why do I feel like if the Kings didn't also win in 2012 or it was a franchise that wasn't as highly touted that the three game 7s would be viewed much more negatively? As is it's seen as a credit to them but if say the 2018 Caps or 2019 Blues two good franchises but not as highly touted as the Kings, did that it would be viewed as them not being good enough to win in a more dominant fashion?

It's just two different flavors of shit the Kings had to eat, really. They won in a dominant fashion and got clowned repeatedly for it until they won again.

after 2012--lol lucky team, cream puff brackets
2013--see they were a fluke, lost in WCF to Hawks who were the Champ
2014--3 games 7s? lucky team

The Kings were the only team stopping the hawks from winning 3 or 4 in a row so they should be seen in a more positive light than the f***in pinata they get treated like on this forum for simply not being a president's trophy winner and playing grind-you-to-paste hockey instead of harlem globetrotters offense

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It's just two different flavors of shit the Kings had to eat, really. They won in a dominant fashion and got clowned repeatedly for it until they won again.

after 2012--lol lucky team, cream puff brackets
2013--see they were a fluke, lost in WCF to Hawks who were the Champ
2014--3 games 7s? lucky team

The Kings were the only team stopping the hawks from winning 3 or 4 in a row so they should be seen in a more positive light than the f***in pinata they get treated like on this forum for simply not being a president's trophy winner and playing grind-you-to-paste hockey instead of harlem globetrotters offense

It's funny because the same board derides the Presidents' Trophy as a nothing accomplishment and playoffs are all that matter.

 

[x Tame Impala]

It's just two different flavors of shit the Kings had to eat, really. They won in a dominant fashion and got clowned repeatedly for it until they won again.

after 2012--lol lucky team, cream puff brackets
2013--see they were a fluke, lost in WCF to Hawks who were the Champ
2014--3 games 7s? lucky team

The Kings were the only team stopping the hawks from winning 3 or 4 in a row so they should be seen in a more positive light than the f***in pinata they get treated like on this forum for simply not being a president's trophy winner and playing grind-you-to-paste hockey instead of harlem globetrotters offense

No dude the 2014 Bruins were the best in the league that year Ignore that they lost in the second round. I can’t believe @dgibb10 actually said that.

The 3 game 7’s isn’t a positive or negative to me really. Just happenstance. They went through murderer’s row in the Pacific, then had the unofficial Stanley Cup matchup against the Hawks, then had to play the best Rangers team Lundqvist was a part of.

 

[dabeechman]

They didn't play Boston, the team with the best record and goal differential that year.

Going to a bunch of games game 7 is not a positive.

Boston lost to the 10th place Habs.

LA beat the #2, #5, #7 overall teams to make it to the Finals.

It's just two different flavors of shit the Kings had to eat, really. They won in a dominant fashion and got clowned repeatedly for it until they won again.

after 2012--lol lucky team, cream puff brackets
2013--see they were a fluke, lost in WCF to Hawks who were the Champ
2014--3 games 7s? lucky team

The Kings were the only team stopping the hawks from winning 3 or 4 in a row so they should be seen in a more positive light than the f***in pinata they get treated like on this forum for simply not being a president's trophy winner and playing grind-you-to-paste hockey instead of harlem globetrotters offense

Shocked they beat CHI that year. Everybody knew that whoever won that series was winning the Cup. No disrespect to the NYR, but LA/CHI was the SCF.

 

[barkovcanfinnish]

I’ll say the 2014 Kings but I think it would be a close contest. 6-7 game series

 

[SnowblindNYR]

No dude the 2014 Bruins were the best in the league that year Ignore that they lost in the second round. I can’t believe @dgibb10 actually said that.

The 3 game 7’s isn’t a positive or negative to me really. Just happenstance. They went through murderer’s row in the Pacific, then had the unofficial Stanley Cup matchup against the Hawks, then had to play the best Rangers team Lundqvist was a part of.

Debatable, either that one or the one the year following that won the Presidents' Trophy. But I think the fancy stats favored the 2014 team. I think possession-wise that's best team I've ever seen since I started watching hockey regularly (00-01). Not the best team since I started watching (I think this team is if it remains healthy, I'm looking at you Chytil) but that team just held the puck and didn't give it up.

 

[The Pale King]

Florida wins the first three before the Kings storm back and win the next three games. Game 7 is all Los Angeles, a 6-0 final where the opening goal is scored by Dustin Brown just thirteen seconds into the opening period, wherein he knees the puck in off Matthew Tkachuk's mouth-guard.

Late in the third, with the Panthers down 5-0, a somnolent Keith Tkachuk is hit by a sarcastically thrown rat in the stands, resulting in him starting a brawl with nearby fans. Several Panthers players climb the glass behind the bench and enter the brouhaha, resulting in ejections to Gudas, Cousins, and surprisingly, Evan Rodrigues. He was kind of just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Trevor Lewis wins his first Conn Smythe, with 6 goals in the finals to go alon-

I'm just kidding, I picked Kings in 5.

 

[jonlin]

Kopitar, Quick, and Doughty are also a notch or so better than Barkov, Bobrovsky, and Forsling

Kopitar a notch better than Barkov? I see it the other way around.