2014 CBJ Offseason Thread

[EspenK]

a 37 year old, slow Jarome Iginla is the LAST thing this team needs.

He just put up 60+ points for Boston. I think he would be an excellent RW for the next 2 years while our young guys develop.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

He just put up 60+ points for Boston. I think he would be an excellent RW for the next 2 years while our young guys develop.

How did Jagr fit with Jamie Benn?

Iggy wouldn't fit well at all on a line with 21-24 year old kids. Just like Jagr didn't fit in Dallas. If anything we should be looking to acquire a younger or in-his-prime top six player to be a core "brick" rather than just a veteran stopgap.

Iggy would never consider Columbus at this stage of his career anyway. He did have a good regular season but has next to nothing left in the tank these playoffs and doubt he could repeat those numbers next year, let alone the next two

 

[NotWendell]

a 37 year old, slow Jarome Iginla is the LAST thing this team needs.

Yeah, the old man (36 years old) only has 4 goals in 10 playoff games so far. In 6 games, Boone Jenner lead our team with 3.

For the present, this club desperately needs veteran leadership to complement the young leaders we already have. For the future, you can't have an entire team going into UFA at the same time.

 

[EspenK]

How did Jagr fit with Jamie Benn?

Iggy wouldn't fit well at all on a line with 21-24 year old kids. Just like Jagr didn't fit in Dallas. If anything we should be looking to acquire a younger or in-his-prime top six player to be a core "brick" rather than just a veteran stopgap.

Iggy would never consider Columbus at this stage of his career anyway. He did have a good regular season but has next to nothing left in the tank these playoffs and doubt he could repeat those numbers next year, let alone the next two

While I admire your theoretical approach to acquiring a top 6 guy in his prime, how exactly do we do this and who exactly do you have in mind? Iginla is a possible solution.

And I bet at this time last year you (along with probably all of us) never imagined Horton signing here.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Yeah, the old man (36 years old) only has 4 goals in 10 playoff games so far. In 6 games, Boone Jenner lead our team with 3.

For the present, this club desperately needs veteran leadership to complement the young leaders we already have. For the future, you can't have an entire team going into UFA at the same time.

"Desperately need veteran leadership?"

Where are you getting this? Leadership wasn't a problem at all this season. Dubie and Jack, who are the 2 captains of the team basically, are both seasoned vets who aren't exactly kids.

 

[EspenK]

"Desperately need veteran leadership?"

Where are you getting this? Leadership wasn't a problem at all this season. Dubie and Jack, who are the 2 captains of the team basically, are both seasoned vets who aren't exactly kids.

Yeah, but we need a third to replace Umbie ...and don't forget- Tyutin provides veteran leadership too. So Iggy would make 4.

 

[blahblah]

And I bet at this time last year you (along with probably all of us) never imagined Horton signing here.

Iginla has made it apparent he wants a Cup. If he doesn't get one, I don't see how the Jackets are on his list.

I think what you are asking for what isn't reasonable.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Yeah, the old man (36 years old) only has 4 goals in 10 playoff games so far. In 6 games, Boone Jenner lead our team with 3.

For the present, this club desperately needs veteran leadership to complement the young leaders we already have. For the future, you can't have an entire team going into UFA at the same time.

Why? What signs do you point to that this team needs more vets? The room was just fine this year...next season (depending on trades and such), Dubi/Jack, Letestu, Horton, Wiz, Tyutin, Umby/Blol (puke...but yes, they may still be around), Foligno will be 27 next year. You think a guy like Calvert needs "veteran leadership" to help him out? Maybe Boone hits a sophomore slump, but the kid played well as a rookie, same for Murray. I think the veteran leadership is just fine. Let's not forget, the room picked up a collective 120 games of playoff experience.

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Yeah, but we need a third to replace Umbie ...and don't forget- Tyutin provides veteran leadership too. So Iggy would make 4.

So, we aren't in need of veteran leadership?

If anything, this season and this playoff run proven - this is Jack and Dubie's locker room. These guys came together, had great chemistry, and the core leadership group was better than the team has ever had.

The last thing they need is bring an outside "leader" with a big ego into the room and disrupt the good chemistry.

We already added Sergei Federov once. Adding a past his prime "name" player to the team to try and sell jerseys or gain fan interest is not something the team needs to be doing at this stage.

 

[NotWendell]

Iginla has made it apparent he wants a Cup. If he doesn't get one, I don't see how the Jackets are on his list.

I think what you are asking for what isn't reasonable.

You're so eager to disagree with me, you forgot to read my initial post. The one where I said Boston would have to win the Cup so we could make a legitimate run at Iginla.

And if IHeartZherdev thinks it's a bad idea, I know it must be right.

VETERAN leadership, someone who has been there before, is what keeps teams from blowing 3-goal leads. We're going to need guys who know what the 2nd and 3rd round of the playoffs are like.

 

[EspenK]

Iginla has made it apparent he wants a Cup. If he doesn't get one, I don't see how the Jackets are on his list.

I think what you are asking for what isn't reasonable.

Hopefully he gets one this year. Yeah, a lot of things have to fall into place for us to land him, but hey stuff happens. Maybe Boston can't/doesn't want to pay him more-we can for 2 years.

I just don't buy that he is washed up and wouldn't fit. (I know you didn't say this,just trying to address the other guys) Someone has to play RW on one of the top 3 lines besides Horton & Cam. I definitely would prefer Iginla over Umbie for many reasons. Maybe Vrbata can be had but it is one of our big problem areas for next year imo.

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Maybe Boston can't/doesn't want to pay him more-we can for 2 years.

Cue...Average White Band....Pick up the Pieces...

 

[CBJfan4evr]

Way to completely miss the point.

Would you trade Johansen or Jenner+Wennberg+1st+Decent Player for Phil Kessel? That's probably what it'd take.

Who's to say Wennberg doesn't develop into something special. Let the kids grow. I know most here dislike Brassard but everytime he buries a key goal against the Pens it makes me wonder if we wouldn't have made the playoffs last year and been still playing this year with him in the line-up. Patience please.

 

[Crede777]

Brassard in Columbus =/= Brassard in New York.

In his interviews right after trading, Brassard all but admitted that he'd quit and needed a change of scenery in order to be competitive again.

 

[Hipster Letestu]

Who's to say Wennberg doesn't develop into something special. Let the kids grow. I know most here dislike Brassard but everytime he buries a key goal against the Pens it makes me wonder if we wouldn't have made the playoffs last year and been still playing this year with him in the line-up. Patience please.

I'll take Johansen/Dubinsky/Anisimov over Brassard any day of the week.

 

[db2011]

You're so eager to disagree with me, you forgot to read my initial post. The one where I said Boston would have to win the Cup so we could make a legitimate run at Iginla.

And if IHeartZherdev thinks it's a bad idea, I know it must be right.

VETERAN leadership, someone who has been there before, is what keeps teams from blowing 3-goal leads. We're going to need guys who know what the 2nd and 3rd round of the playoffs are like.

You mean like Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, etc.?

I have to say, I don't know where you're coming from with this, either. The things that Iggy would bring to a team at this point in his career don't seem to be things the Jackets need.

 

[Crede777]

VETERAN leadership, someone who has been there before, is what keeps teams from blowing 3-goal leads. We're going to need guys who know what the 2nd and 3rd round of the playoffs are like.

So... like Nathan Horton? I heard he may have an all-new body by the time training camp rolls around.

 

[EspenK]

You mean like Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, etc.?

I have to say, I don't know where you're coming from with this, either. The things that Iggy would bring to a team at this point in his career don't seem to be things the Jackets need.

What he would bring is a pretty good RW for 2 years (in my dream scenario) while the kids develop. It's either that or two more years of Umbie.

And he did put up 60 pts this year, not that the Jackets need those.
Even 50 from him could mean the difference between 2nd place in the division and missing the playoffs.

I think we could definitely benefit from him being here. Or someone else to fill out the top 6.

 

[thebus2288*]

And he did put up 60 pts this year, not that the Jackets need those.
Even 50 from him could mean the difference between 2nd place in the division and missing the playoffs.

I think we could definitely benefit from him being here.

60?!?! Benefit?!?! Add that to Wiz's 50 and that's like 100 goals!!

 

[Cyclones Rock]

I've watched 5 out of the 6 Habs vs. Bruins playoffgames and Iginla hasn't really been very noticeable. He's scored 2 goals on 13 shots (-2).....I was very surprised to see that he had 6 SOG in the last game. He's seemed more of a passenger on the ship than a primary player. I'm not impressed by his work ethic.

I will concede, however, that I've not watched him very much overall, so I've got a small sample size.

I'm of the thinking that the leadership on this team is pretty settled at this point.......JJ/Dubinski as the leaders, with supporting roles from Foligno, MacKenzie, Boll, Foligno, Tyutin. The chemistry on this team appears to be very solid and I would think a quiet and unassuming personality (like Gaborik) would be the ideal fit.

 

[EspenK]

I've watched 5 out of the 6 Habs vs. Bruins playoffgames and Iginla hasn't really been very noticeable. He's scored 2 goals on 13 shots (-2).....I was very surprised to see that he had 6 SOG in the last game. He's seemed more of a passenger on the ship than a primary player. I'm not impressed by his work ethic.

I will concede, however, that I've not watched him very much overall, so I've got a small sample size.

I'm of the thinking that the leadership on this team is pretty settled at this point.......JJ/Dubinski as the leaders, with supporting roles from Foligno, MacKenzie, Boll, Foligno, Tyutin. The chemistry on this team appears to be very solid and I would think a quiet and unassuming personality (like Gaborik) would be the ideal fit.

As long as the guy isn't a locker room cancer I'll take 50-60 pts over quiet and unassuming. Hey, Gabby is an impending UFA

 

[Cyclones Rock]

As long as the guy isn't a locker room cancer I'll take 50-60 pts over quiet and unassuming. Hey, Gabby is an impending UFA

I really don't know much about this guy's personality. He could be a very reasonable price as well....I don't know.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/438

He had a base of $1.8 million and $4.2 million in possible bonuses this past season....I don't know anything about his bonus structure and whether he made them or not.



His career numbers are stupid good and for his age are still very good.

His 5 vs. 5 numbers were very respectable this past season as well. He led the Bruins in 5 vs 5 goals/60 minutes.

http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_stat...+RW&f5=BOS&f7=50-&c=0+1+3+5+4+6+7+17+18+19+20

It will be interesting to see if he's in the mix of UFAs the CBJ go after. There certainly is a valid case to be made for pursuing him......assuming that he hasn't an ego which would disrupt what appears to be a great chemistry.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

As long as the guy isn't a locker room cancer I'll take 50-60 pts over quiet and unassuming. Hey, Gabby is an impending UFA

But I hear that he's garbage in the playoffs

 

[Crede777]

But I hear that he's garbage in the playoffs

I really wanted to keep him obviously, but whoever pays his new contract based on these past few weeks is going to severely overpay I think.

 

[NotWendell]

So... like Nathan Horton? I heard he may have an all-new body by the time training camp rolls around.

Yep, like him. That's one.