2014 CBJ Offseason Thread II (All proposals, "blog" rumors, speculation in here)
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CBJWerenski8
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WannabeFinn
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Anyone think we should draft a goalie this year? Didn't draft one last year, but we did get 2 in 2010 (neither with the organization anymore, though), 1 in 2011 and 2 in 2012
I'm not saying that we just need to draft one, but we don't have a 5th or 6th round pick (talent drop off between our 107th and 197th picks is probably pretty significant for skaters but not so much for goalies). Can't say I'd be upset if we just used the 7th rounder on a project goalie and used the 5 picks we have in the top 107 on skaters. Hell, I probably wouldn't even care if we used the 4th round pick on a goalie.
I'm not saying that we just need to draft one, but we don't have a 5th or 6th round pick (talent drop off between our 107th and 197th picks is probably pretty significant for skaters but not so much for goalies). Can't say I'd be upset if we just used the 7th rounder on a project goalie and used the 5 picks we have in the top 107 on skaters. Hell, I probably wouldn't even care if we used the 4th round pick on a goalie.
Fro
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i side with CBJProspects about drafting goalies...take one at some point each year...if they grow into something, perfect tradebait...
I kid, I kid!
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I think the goal should be to grab a 1st line left winger that can help create with johan and horton. Boone is doing great but I'd rather he share 2/3rd line duties with foligno and calvert. let them compete for those spots. I'm surprised some are slotting anisimov over dubinsky after how clearly dubie outplayed anisimov last season, IMO. Also, Wiz may be a liability but he's just fine as the PP QB playing part time on the 3rd pair and filling in on the 2nd.
line suggestions (basically 2 capable second lines):
new LW (scorer: vanek, moulson, lupul, etc) / johansen / horton (~19min)
foligno / dubinsky / atkinson (~16 min)
calvert / anisimov / jenner (~15 min)
comeau / mackenzie / letestu (~10 min)
Boll
Skille (if still here)
Murray / Johnson
Tyutin / Savard
Erixon / Wisniewski
Prout
Nikitin (if still here)
Bobrovsky
McElhinney
I could see tyutin and murray switched but it would be nice to have a vet with savard.
line suggestions (basically 2 capable second lines):
new LW (scorer: vanek, moulson, lupul, etc) / johansen / horton (~19min)
foligno / dubinsky / atkinson (~16 min)
calvert / anisimov / jenner (~15 min)
comeau / mackenzie / letestu (~10 min)
Boll
Skille (if still here)
Murray / Johnson
Tyutin / Savard
Erixon / Wisniewski
Prout
Nikitin (if still here)
Bobrovsky
McElhinney
I could see tyutin and murray switched but it would be nice to have a vet with savard.
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Agree that we need a top 6 forward. Whether its a RW or LW is secondary although I think the need is greater for a RW.
I don't think most slot Arty over Dubi its just that most keep the Calvert-Dubi-Cam line together.
Hemsky isn't staying in Ottawa. I look at him as a potential steal if our other targets aren't available. He's obviously not the BlueJacket type, as he doesn't play a complete game at all, but he adds a lot of creativity to the offence.
I think his level is closer to what we saw in Ottawa than what we saw in Edmonton before that. A real top liner.
I think his level is closer to what we saw in Ottawa than what we saw in Edmonton before that. A real top liner.
Funny you mention that, Jarmo has favorited some tweets by Bob McKenzie (yesterday) about RoR's situation. I didn't find out directly, but on your phone if your scroll left to see "activity" that's what popped up haha
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Yeah I still don't get that. All it does is take away the option for a sign-and-trade. ROR can still be offersheeted and if they weren't getting anywhere on contract negotiations they still had plenty of time before invoking arbitration.
I think the Jackets need to add a forward who can carry a line. We've never had one besides Johansen this year. Nash couldn't carry a line nor could Gaborik. Carter just plain didn't want to be here.
Right now we have Johansen and then about 12 complimentary guys. I don't think adding another passenger forward will put the Jackets over the hump. We need someone else in addition to Johansen who can produce and make guys around him better regardless of who they are. Obviously that won't come via FA so it'll need to be trade or internally.
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EspenK
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Not to be a negative nelly and I don't see it happening but it wouldn't be an unbelievable surprise if the team slid a bit next year.
Offer sheets don't really make a lot of sense long term if you're not an elite team (who usually don't have the cap room to make an offersheet but that's another story). We're not elite yet.
So no, I wouldn't.
I think the chances of a mid-1st + 2nd +3rd rounder turning out a single player as good as Ryan O'Reilly aren't very good. Would we be allowed to offer a 6 or 7 year deal for someone that young?
I think $6-$6.7m is the range it would have to be in, and O'Reilly is definitely that good of a player. But the draft picks and money together, that's a tough one. I say go for it if there isn't a better trade or UFA option.
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To look at it a different way if ROR was ours now would we offer him 6 or 7 years at 6.5 or so? Or match an offer sheet for that kind of term and money? I think we would. So then it becomes a question do you give up the three picks? I think it would be worth it.
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But the sum of the parts + the risk that things could bottom out and we'd end up losing a really high pick make it not worth it in my eyes. Also, not the biggest O'Reilly fan out there.
Not often are you able to get a player who is as young and good as he is. Especially without having to trade prospects or players on your NHL team. I think it would be worth it and I am someone who loves the draft and us making a lot of picks 
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So, Dallas has begun the compliance buyout process for Aaron Rome which brings to light a question I've been meaning to ask.
Who would the CBJ possibly buyout outside of the potential Umberger talk?
These are freebie buyouts so if they don't get used on a high dollar player, they can still be used on a low dollar guy to give some contract limit relief or even free up a small amount.
Since this is the last year they can be used, why not just use them for the sake of using them if you even have a minor league player who is taking up space that you don't feel will ever make it. Or are there restrictions on buying out non roster players?
Who would the CBJ possibly buyout outside of the potential Umberger talk?
These are freebie buyouts so if they don't get used on a high dollar player, they can still be used on a low dollar guy to give some contract limit relief or even free up a small amount.
Since this is the last year they can be used, why not just use them for the sake of using them if you even have a minor league player who is taking up space that you don't feel will ever make it. Or are there restrictions on buying out non roster players?
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