Speculation: 2014 - 2015 New York Rangers :: Roster building / proposal thread Part II

[aufheben]

I don't think Boyle is AS bad as many here are thinking he is. He isn't Stralman, but he isn't Christian Backman either

Oi.

 

[NYR Viper]

Vlasic?

Very similar player to Staal actually.

I never made the correlation between his old partner and most likely new

 

[rangers1314]

ugh that winnik deal, he was exactly the type of player we should have been targeting. Not to make it about glass again, but I guess I am.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Very similar player to Staal actually.

I never made the correlation between his old partner and most likely new

Yeah I don't see how they're similar at all aside from being lefty defenders.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Absolute worst case scenario, could we bump Klein up to the Staal pairing at ES and shelter Boyle and Moore if Boyle really can't handle 2nd line minutes? Staal-Klein should be steady defensively, but AV would have to rely on the top 2 pairings a lot more,

Boyle > Klein. Boyle provides a puck moving presence on the second pair. Staal-Klein would be perpetually trapped in the defensive zone.

 

[Raspewtin]

Vlasic?

Don't remember him ever playing with Vlasic from all the times I watched SJ. I saw Boyle play with Braun a lot.

Could be wrong though.

 

[silverfish]

Don't remember him ever playing with Vlasic from all the times I watched SJ. I saw Boyle play with Braun a lot.

Could be wrong though.

Looks like he played most with Irwin (50.9%) Followed by Vlasic (21.3%)

http://www.extraskater.com/player/427/dan-boyle

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Stempniak - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Miller - St. Louis
Glass - Moore - Lombardi
Bisonnette ( )

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Boyle
Moore - Klein
Kostka

Hank
Talbot

If there are no trades or surprises from now until October, and Stempniak can switch to LW, I think that's our lineup. Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable. I'd love for Lombardi to really surprise and win the 3C spot, effectively making him 2C between Hagelin and St. Louis. A guy like Mueller can step in and play the fourth line for the year.

Interestingly, and not so interestingly, the Rangers website has Nash AND Zuccarello listed as LWers on their roster page. Somebody has to fire the intern

 

[THE BIG WHISTLE]

Looks like he played most with Irwin (50.9%) Followed by Vlasic (21.3%)

http://www.extraskater.com/player/427/dan-boyle

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Stempniak - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Miller - St. Louis
Glass - Moore - Lombardi
Bisonnette ( )

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Boyle
Moore - Klein
Kostka

Hank
Talbot

If there are no trades or surprises from now until October, and Stempniak can switch to LW, I think that's our lineup. Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable. I'd love for Lombardi to really surprise and win the 3C spot, effectively making him 2C between Hagelin and St. Louis. A guy like Mueller can step in and play the fourth line for the year.

Interestingly, and not so interestingly, the Rangers website has Nash AND Zuccarello listed as LWers on their roster page. Somebody has to fire the intern

I think you are absolutely correct barring camp/preseason injuries.

 

[Mikos87]

Yeah I don't see how they're similar at all aside from being lefty defenders.

They are. They play a near identical game. Mistake free tall defensive defensemen that can shutdown any player in the league. Not a lot of offensive puck skills but very very good defensemen.

Vlasic is a little smoother skater, while Staal is more physical.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

They are. They play a near identical game. Mistake free tall defensive defensemen that can shutdown any player in the league. Not a lot of offensive puck skills but very very good defensemen.

Vlasic is a little smoother skater, while Staal is more physical.

Vlasic is about average height. And they really don't play a similar style at all. I would describe Staal as almost "dynamic" defensively. Vlasic is just steady and smooth, like Stralman.

 

[Infinitum Vitae*]

I would think our first line gets split up for scoring depth.
Hags-stepan-nash
Kreider-brass-zucc
Stemp-miller-MSL
Lombardi-Moore-(Ugh)Glass(Eww)

 

[Raspewtin]

Vlasic is about average height. And they really don't play a similar style at all. I would describe Staal as almost "dynamic" defensively. Vlasic is just steady and smooth, like Stralman.

That's a good comparison.

Vlasic is just disgustingly efficient. Like Stralman. Though Vlasic is the much better player.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

That's a good comparison.

Vlasic is just disgustingly efficient. Like Stralman. Though Vlasic is the much better player.

Vlasic is better than either of Staal or Stralman. It's not a coincidence that Vlasic missed the last four games of the series against LA...

 

[darko]

Vlasic is better than either of Staal or Stralman. It's not a coincidence that Vlasic missed the last four games of the series against LA...

Better than Staalsy? Dayum. Granted I don't watch San Jose much.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Better than Staalsy? Dayum. Granted I don't watch San Jose much.

Vlasic is REALLY good. Not quite McDonagh good, but good. I'd label him a #1 defenseman quite comfortably. Staal, not so much, though I love him for what he is.

 

[Raspewtin]

Better than Staalsy? Dayum. Granted I don't watch San Jose much.

Yes, definitely.

Though, if Staal was playing to his 2010-2011 level, it would be a toss up.

As of now though, no.

 

[Savant]

ugh that winnik deal, he was exactly the type of player we should have been targeting. Not to make it about glass again, but I guess I am.

Rangers are only going to sign a player if they are $900,000 or cheaper, so they don't effect the cap. All of these players that they are "missing" on are getting paid more than that.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Better than Staalsy? Dayum. Granted I don't watch San Jose much.

He made Canada's Olympic team, that speaks volumes

 

[BBKers]

Rangers are only going to sign a player if they are $900,000 or cheaper, so they don't effect the cap. All of these players that they are "missing" on are getting paid more than that.

I believe $925.000 is The Magic Number

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Yeah, Vlasic is a stud.

 

[RGY]

I like this roster so far. Make it to the trade deadline and add a veteran center

 

[Cassano]

He made Canada's Olympic team, that speaks volumes

As did Nash, but you can't really tell with the way he's perceived here.

 

[haohmaru]

http://www.extraskater.com/player/427/dan-boyle

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Stempniak - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Miller - St. Louis
Glass - Moore - Lombardi
Bisonnette ( )

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Boyle
Moore - Klein
Kostka

Hank
Talbot

If there are no trades or surprises from now until October, and Stempniak can switch to LW, I think that's our lineup. Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable. I'd love for Lombardi to really surprise and win the 3C spot, effectively making him 2C between Hagelin and St. Louis. A guy like Mueller can step in and play the fourth line for the year.

Interestingly, and not so interestingly, the Rangers website has Nash AND Zuccarello listed as LWers on their roster page. Somebody has to fire the intern

Assuming you're listing these in order (1st to 4th line) - how on earth are you putting MSL, the guy who had the most points last season, on the 3rd line?

 

[silverfish]

*sigh* I love this place sometimes...

Assuming you're listing these in order (1st to 4th line) - how on earth are you putting MSL, the guy who had the most points last season, on the 3rd line?

Looks like he played most with Irwin (50.9%) Followed by Vlasic (21.3%)

http://www.extraskater.com/player/427/dan-boyle

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Stempniak - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Miller - St. Louis
Glass - Moore - Lombardi
Bisonnette ( )

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Boyle
Moore - Klein
Kostka

Hank
Talbot

If there are no trades or surprises from now until October, and Stempniak can switch to LW, I think that's our lineup. Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable. I'd love for Lombardi to really surprise and win the 3C spot, effectively making him 2C between Hagelin and St. Louis. A guy like Mueller can step in and play the fourth line for the year.

Interestingly, and not so interestingly, the Rangers website has Nash AND Zuccarello listed as LWers on their roster page. Somebody has to fire the intern

Kreider - Stepan - Nash
Stempniak - Brassard - Zuccarello
Hagelin - Miller - St. Louis
Glass - Moore - Lombardi
Bisonnette ( )

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Boyle
Moore - Klein
Kostka

Hank
Talbot

If there are no trades or surprises from now until October, and Stempniak can switch to LW, I think that's our lineup. Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable. I'd love for Lombardi to really surprise and win the 3C spot, effectively making him 2C between Hagelin and St. Louis. A guy like Mueller can step in and play the fourth line for the year.

If there are no trades or surprises from now until October, and Stempniak can switch to LW, I think that's our lineup. Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable.

Lines 2 and 3 are interchangeable.

Zoomed in for your viewing pleasure.

If you mean to say, how can I put MSL with Miller and Hagelin? Then yes, you have a case. My defense is that I do not foresee Nash moving to LW or moving away from Stepan. Same goes for Zuccarello not moving from right to left, or being separated from Brassard.

However, if Nash does move to LW, I wouldn't mind:

Nash - Stepan - MSL
Kreider - Brassard - MZA
Hagelin - Miller - Stempniak
Glass - Moore - Lombardi

Better?

 

[haohmaru]

*sigh* I love this place sometimes...

Zoomed in for your viewing pleasure.

If you mean to say, how can I put MSL with Miller and Hagelin? Then yes, you have a case. My defense is that I do not foresee Nash moving to LW or moving away from Stepan. Same goes for Zuccarello not moving from right to left, or being separated from Brassard.

However, if Nash does move to LW, I wouldn't mind:

Nash - Stepan - MSL
Kreider - Brassard - MZA
Hagelin - Miller - Stempniak
Glass - Moore - Lombardi

Better?

"Interchangeable" - so, depending on performance night in and night out, MSL will likely be on the 3rd line (particularly since he's paired with Hagelin and Miller). Didn't really need all of the zooming, thanks.

I like the Nash move to LW lineup a lot better. Miller hasn't proved much at the NHL level and Stempniak shouldn't be ahead of MSL on the depth chart nor should he be paired with Brassard ahead of MSL.

The real question here is whether any of our RW's can play the left side and be as effective. I'd wager that Nash has the best chance of doing that.

Don't know enough about Lombardi (I mean, I remember him playing in the NHL and having speed and talent) to know whether or not he can be an effective wing or even whether he still has enough to play in the NHL. Hoping he does.