OT: 2014-15 NFL Season Thread

MoneyGuy

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I rarely watch NFL play but watched the Packers yesterday. Very good game. However, I hate that there is almost 1:30 left and the game is over. I've seen two or three TDs scored in that time in the CFL. The punting rules seem silly. People complain about our rouge but our rules are much better.
 

ghostnights

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I rarely watch NFL play but watched the Packers yesterday. Very good game. However, I hate that there is almost 1:30 left and the game is over. I've seen two or three TDs scored in that time in the CFL. The punting rules seem silly. People complain about our rouge but our rules are much better.

No way, shape and form is the CFL better. It's a joke.
 

HeavyHitter99

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The rules.... Much more wide open. Have NFL players playing our rules on our field...how awesome would that be.

I don't want to turn this into a CFL-NFL debate.

NFL has some better rules than the CFL and vise versa. One thing I don't like about the NFL is how much they change the rules and how many little hidden rules there seems to be. Sometimes the refs don't even seem to know what to call :laugh:

The NFL game is completely different than the CFL one though.
 

joestevens29

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As a person who's fantasy team includes Adrian Peterson, RG3, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, and Jordan Reed (thankfully RG3 was only my backup QB), what a week indeed. I started out with Welker too, but dropped him prior to last week.

Ouch
 

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The one obvious rule I would change would be a shorter play clock in the NFL. It would force more changes of possesion in a game, thus giving more opportunity for trailing teams to come back in games.

The negative to that is a team like Denver ends up scoring 50 or 60 (instead of the usual approx 40 pts) against loser teams like the Jags.
 

joestevens29

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The one obvious rule I would change would be a shorter play clock in the NFL. It would force more changes of possesion in a game, thus giving more opportunity for trailing teams to come back in games.

The negative to that is a team like Denver ends up scoring 50 or 60 (instead of the usual approx 40 pts) against loser teams like the Jags.

I don't see how that is a negative. Unless of course you have no Broncos on your Fantasy team.

The only people that don't like seeing 50+ games are teams that are getting kicked, but a lot of fans just want to see how many points a team can get.
 

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I don't see how that is a negative. Unless of course you have no Broncos on your Fantasy team.

The only people that don't like seeing 50+ games are teams that are getting kicked, but a lot of fans just want to see how many points a team can get.

Well the reason i see it as a negative is this:

I don't watch much college football. The reason? 3/4 of the games aren't even close. The close games I probably don't even have access to on my TV.

Why would I watch Alabama beat Southern Miss 52-12 , Ole Miss beat LA-Lafayette 56-15 or Ohio State beat Kent State 66-0.

I didn't search tons of games in the schedule to find these scores. This was all last week.

I don't see the entertainment value of watching a good team kick the crap out of an inferior team. I like highly competitive games. i like games such as NO-CLE or NYJ-GB.
 

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There have been way more late game close finishes and comebacks in the NFL over the past two years than the CFL and it's not even close. Of course having 4x the number of teams influences that but week in and week out it seems that other than three or four duds, every game is entertaining and competitive. Compared to the borefest offensive ineptitude in the CFL, I'm thankful that there's some high level quality ball to watch again with it and the college season having kicked off.

I tried watching some of the Riders Hamilton game on Sunday while flipping from the NFL during commercial breaks and it's amazing the discrepancy between the two leagues in terms of even the basic fundamentals. Much less error prone players in the NFL whereas in the CFL you see simple mistakes, whether it be dropped balls, blown coverages, missed blocking assignments than you ever see in any one NFL game.
 

joestevens29

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Well the reason i see it as a negative is this:

I don't watch much college football. The reason? 3/4 of the games aren't even close. The close games I probably don't even have access to on my TV.

Why would I watch Alabama beat Southern Miss 52-12 , Ole Miss beat LA-Lafayette 56-15 or Ohio State beat Kent State 66-0.

I didn't search tons of games in the schedule to find these scores. This was all last week.

I don't see the entertainment value of watching a good team kick the crap out of an inferior team. I like highly competitive games. i like games such as NO-CLE or NYJ-GB.
The problem is what entertainment is there in the Broncos beating Jacksonville anyway? At least if they are running up the score there is a chance for a record or a real solid 5-6 TD game which is quite rare.
 

joestevens29

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There have been way more late game close finishes and comebacks in the NFL over the past two years than the CFL and it's not even close. Of course having 4x the number of teams influences that but week in and week out it seems that other than three or four duds, every game is entertaining and competitive. Compared to the borefest offensive ineptitude in the CFL, I'm thankful that there's some high level quality ball to watch again with it and the college season having kicked off.

I tried watching some of the Riders Hamilton game on Sunday while flipping from the NFL during commercial breaks and it's amazing the discrepancy between the two leagues in terms of even the basic fundamentals. Much less error prone players in the NFL whereas in the CFL you see simple mistakes, whether it be dropped balls, blown coverages, missed blocking assignments than you ever see in any one NFL game.
I don't even know why the CFL has games on a Sunday afternoon. Have to think their ratings take a hit. Just doesn't make sense.
 

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NFL has some better rules than the CFL and vise versa. One thing I don't like about the NFL is how much they change the rules and how many little hidden rules there seems to be. Sometimes the refs don't even seem to know what to call :laugh:

The NFL game is completely different than the CFL one though.

I still don't get how the clock works in the CFL...in the NFL the clock stops if you go out of bounds or its an incomplete pass

CFL? who knows....

but i like the fact the game is never over in the CFL...even with a minute left, you can't run the clock out
 

joestevens29

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Honestly I have zero issue with it. The NFL ****ed this situation up big time. You can't just suspend a guy and they re-suspend him after because of public opinion. There are channels you have to go through and the NFL seemed to just do what they wanted.

If it ever is proven that the NFL had the video all along good luck winning this one NFL.



On another sad note, I see Peterson is now barred from the team. Luckily for the NFL they haven't made a judgement yet and have an opportunity to not screw this one up. Maybe it's just me, but Peterson really is bordering on one of the biggest ******** that I can remember as a pro athlete. I don't know how many kids this guy has and how many of those that he gives a **** about(as we all know his son that died last year seemed to be more of a guy you see once a year in a pub than flesh and blood), but Peterson you can go **** yourself. At the very least get fixed so you don't have anymore kids.

Geez that's a lot of *
 

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After the first quarter of the game tonight, is it safe to say Tampa is the worst in the league at the moment... :help:
 

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I still don't get how the clock works in the CFL...in the NFL the clock stops if you go out of bounds or its an incomplete pass

CFL? who knows....

but i like the fact the game is never over in the CFL...even with a minute left, you can't run the clock out
Lol, I've wondered about this for years. Clock doesn't seem to move at all in the last three minutes.
 

Kyle McMahon

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I still don't get how the clock works in the CFL...in the NFL the clock stops if you go out of bounds or its an incomplete pass

CFL? who knows....

but i like the fact the game is never over in the CFL...even with a minute left, you can't run the clock out

It's the same in the CFL as far as incomplete and out of bounds are concerned during the latter stages of a half, last 7 minutes I believe. The clock will continue running earlier in halves due to the 20 second play clock versus the NFL's 40 second play clock. If the CFL stopped the clock like the NFL does but maintained a 20 second play clock, games would take 5 hours and have 200 snaps.

In the last 3 minutes of a half (I think it's 3 minutes, but not 100% on that) the clock will stop after every play and resume once the ball has been spotted and the ref has whistled in the play. It starts running in synch with the play clock on an in-bounds play. On an out of bounds or incomplete pass, it will not start until the ball is snapped. So typically if a team is in hurry-up/no huddle offense in the CFL, they will still have time to get set by the time the game clock starts ticking again. This is the biggest relevant difference between CFL and NFL game clocks.
 

joestevens29

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Do you understand my point now? :)

Not really no. Would you have preferred a 21-0 win with ATL just holding back? Like Neilsen and Chase(Fraser) said this morning they found themselves wanting to see a shutdown and see how badly ATL would drive the score up. Otherwise what would there have been to watch in that game?
 

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My point was with a shorter play clock it could have been a much uglier score more quickly.

So now your watching a Week 1 preseason game for 2+ quarters. Instead of 1 quarter.
 

CantHaveTkachev

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It's the same in the CFL as far as incomplete and out of bounds are concerned during the latter stages of a half, last 7 minutes I believe. The clock will continue running earlier in halves due to the 20 second play clock versus the NFL's 40 second play clock. If the CFL stopped the clock like the NFL does but maintained a 20 second play clock, games would take 5 hours and have 200 snaps.

In the last 3 minutes of a half (I think it's 3 minutes, but not 100% on that) the clock will stop after every play and resume once the ball has been spotted and the ref has whistled in the play. It starts running in synch with the play clock on an in-bounds play. On an out of bounds or incomplete pass, it will not start until the ball is snapped. So typically if a team is in hurry-up/no huddle offense in the CFL, they will still have time to get set by the time the game clock starts ticking again. This is the biggest relevant difference between CFL and NFL game clocks.
Thanks for the clarification

one thing...how come in the CFL when the clock reaches 0:00 yet the announcers say "time for one more play" ...I thought once the clock reaches zero, its over

on another note...Thursday Night Football is back to being its old self (unwatchable)
 

Kyle McMahon

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Thanks for the clarification

one thing...how come in the CFL when the clock reaches 0:00 yet the announcers say "time for one more play" ...I thought once the clock reaches zero, its over

on another note...Thursday Night Football is back to being its old self (unwatchable)

When it hits 0:00 in the NFL, the game is over. Unless there was an accepted penalty on the last play, in which case one more down is played.

In the CFL the game must end with a play. If it hits 0:00 while a play is in progress, the game will end with that play. If it hits 0:00 while teams are getting ready to run one last play, they still get to run that play.
 

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