Speculation: 2013 Offseason Thread Part IV: Streit's rights to PHI for 2014 4th Rounder

[Punxrocknyc19*]

If Cody Beach is like his brother stay away. I'd like Reaves. Rather have someone like a Lucic or Marchand type... I wish Sather tried for Steve Ott last year.. I'd love Kyle Clifford Colin Fraser type from the Kings.

 

[RangerBoy]

Jim Nill gave Sergei Gonchar $10M over 2 years.

 

[Fitzy]

If teams will give a declining Sarge that kind of deal, Del Zotto will have some serious value on the trade market.

 

[Championship*]

How about Del Zotto and Thomas for Roman Polak, Joel Edmundson and Ryan Reeves or Cody Beach.

what is baffling to me is how so many teams have nasty guys in their organization from top to bottom and we have almost nothing of the sort in our system.

McIlrath and Edmundson played together in Moose Jaw...they would make a nasty 3 rd pair. Polak is a solid dman and Reeves or Beach would address size on our 4th line.

That would be a horrendous trade for the Rangers. Horrendous.

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

This team is built from the net out, and this particular core of players has seen some success at the NHL level, for sure. I would not be turning over the roster again until the new coach figures out what he is working with and makes an informed decision on who is part of the solution and who is part of the problem. I would definitely be giving the young guys a shot at the NHL level, and start the season rolling with this:

Hagelin - Stepan - Nash
Zuccarello - Brassard - Kreider
Miller/Hrivik/Fast - Lindberg - Callahan
Dorsett - Boyle - Powe

Asham/Pyatt

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Moore
Stralman - Del Zotto

Honestly, there is plenty of skill and talent on the Rangers, especially on the back end. It's up to the new coach to actually let this talent breathe a little bit and put some pucks in the net. Four of your six D-men have some serious offensive skill. Nash, Kreider, and Callahan (this place sure does get on him for a guy who's paced 30 goals in 3 straight seasons) simply can score. Stepan, Zucca, and Brassard are gifted playmakers. Hagelin, Miller, Lindberg, Hrivik, and Fast are all young guys with room to grow.

Keep it together a little bit. Make changes after 15-20 games into the season and it's not working. That lineup, however, has a lot of potential. Size, talent, and speed. Not to mention that this team works their ass off. No one should take that away from them.

 

[Orr Nightmare]

That would be a horrendous trade for the Rangers. Horrendous.

Please tell me why.

The Bruins just steamrolled the team with the most talent in hockey...made them their *****es....you can sign all the Steits and Briere's you want and it will be 80 years until you win another cup...when Milian Lucic is coming at you with a full head of steam...everyone ***** themselves...we are a small team...we have the best goalie in hockey...without him we would be a lottery team...enough with the smallish skilled guys. Nash for as big as he is, is a finesse player. Every line should have a big grinder to free up space for the skilled guys.

 

[Orr Nightmare]

Jim Nill gave Sergei Gonchar $10M over 2 years.

Man, I thought Nill was going to be an excellent GM...if this is a sign of things to come...maybe we can do Del Zotto and Thomas for Jamie Oleksiak and Brett Ritchie.

 

[Vitto79]

Gonchar two yrs ten million in Dallas, Streit will get atleast that so I pass

 

[iamitter]

Man, I thought Nill was going to be an excellent GM...if this is a sign of things to come...maybe we can do Del Zotto and Thomas for Jamie Oleksiak and Brett Ritchie.

Ritchie's basically a bust at this point. And I don't really see the coup you're pulling off here. If it was the other Jamie, sure.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Man, I thought Nill was going to be an excellent GM...if this is a sign of things to come...maybe we can do Del Zotto and Thomas for Jamie Oleksiak and Brett Ritchie.

Dallas doesn't need the cap space. Gonchar is a perfect mentor-type D and is still effective offensively. He's play a Sergei Zubov-like role there.

 

[NewLife]

Man, I thought Nill was going to be an excellent GM...if this is a sign of things to come...maybe we can do Del Zotto and Thomas for Jamie Oleksiak and Brett Ritchie.

What's the cap floor at? I believe that has something to do with this signing.

I think you undervalue MDZ a bit but imagine Oleksiak and McIlrath as a pairing in the future.

 

[Hire Sather]

I didn't love Drury.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Is it just me or did the Bruins not "steamroll" anyone, they are big and hard to defend against. They are also tough and willing, but I'd be more inclined to say they shut the Pens down more so than physically dominated. It's not like the series was a blood bath.

Which makes the argument that we need to get tougher a little less relevant. We need to get bigger, and stronger sure, also like having a handful of guys that can throw them, but building a team with a big grinder on every line is a terrible idea.

Milan Lucic is one of a kind, every team would love to have him. Those guys don't grow on trees, if they have the combination of skill, toughness, and size they are usually drafted very high and retained by their teams.

What does that leave for options? Big guys who lack skill, or haven't put it together yet, or have some flaw. Filling your team with those players is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Kwayry]

Is it just me or did the Bruins not "steamroll" anyone, they are big and hard to defend against. They are also tough and willing, but I'd be more inclined to say they shut the Pens down more so than physically dominated. It's not like the series was a blood bath.

Which makes the argument that we need to get tougher a little less relevant. We need to get bigger, and stronger sure, also like having a handful of guys that can throw them, but building a team with a big grinder on every line is a terrible idea.

Milan Lucic is one of a kind, every team would love to have him. Those guys don't grow on trees, if they have the combination of skill, toughness, and size they are usually drafted very high and retained by their teams.

What does that leave for options? Big guys who lack skill, or haven't put it together yet, or have some flaw. Filling your team with those players is a recipe for disaster.

Agreed we need more size, but who is saying we need a big grinder on every line?

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Agreed we need more size, but who is saying we need a big grinder on every line?

Here.

Please tell me why.

The Bruins just steamrolled the team with the most talent in hockey...made them their *****es....you can sign all the Steits and Briere's you want and it will be 80 years until you win another cup...when Milian Lucic is coming at you with a full head of steam...everyone ***** themselves...we are a small team...we have the best goalie in hockey...without him we would be a lottery team...enough with the smallish skilled guys. Nash for as big as he is, is a finesse player. Every line should have a big grinder to free up space for the skilled guys.

 

[Kwayry]

Here.

Orr would love to have a team full of big grinders, not just one on every line.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

We just need all grinders and fighters.

 

[Orr Nightmare]

Is it just me or did the Bruins not "steamroll" anyone, they are big and hard to defend against. They are also tough and willing, but I'd be more inclined to say they shut the Pens down more so than physically dominated. It's not like the series was a blood bath.

Which makes the argument that we need to get tougher a little less relevant. We need to get bigger, and stronger sure, also like having a handful of guys that can throw them, but building a team with a big grinder on every line is a terrible idea.

Milan Lucic is one of a kind, every team would love to have him. Those guys don't grow on trees, if they have the combination of skill, toughness, and size they are usually drafted very high and retained by their teams.

What does that leave for options? Big guys who lack skill, or haven't put it together yet, or have some flaw. Filling your team with those players is a recipe for disaster.

You're right...I have been watching hockey for 25 years and I have seen 1 cup in that time and that team had the perfect blend of skill, grit, goaltendering and goonery. We have skill with Nash, Cally, Stepan, Hagelin, Zucc, Bobby Orr, sorry, I meant Del Zotto, Brad Richards, who 90% of this board wanted, etc. As of right now the only real grit on this team is Dorsett. I love Boyle and Giradi but they won't scare a fly but let's go out a get a PP specialist, even though that is suppose to be Del Zotto's job, it's only 4 years, let's give him another 4 to figure it out.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

I agree w/ Orr N here. We have good skill players and passers. We do need some grit and toughness. We need a Prust or 2, and a some form of a Lucic

 

[NYR Viper]

We need guys who can bring energy in other forms. I don't agree with his trades, but I agree with the fact that they need to add some grit, energy and toughness.

McLeod and Nystrom would help. A full season of Dorsett will help.

Pyatt and Asham were not good signings. Both are 1 dimensional.

Powe is a good depth forward but he is also 1 dimensional.

 

[Kwayry]

We need guys who can bring energy in other forms. I don't agree with his trades, but I agree with the fact that they need to add some grit, energy and toughness.

McLeod and Nystrom would help. A full season of Dorsett will help.

Pyatt and Asham were not good signings. Both are 1 dimensional.

Powe is a good depth forward but he is also 1 dimensional.

Not sure Nystrom makes it to FA.

Stars beat writer Mike Heika answered questions in a chat on Thursday. Here are some highlights.

What is the status with Nystrom, and how high do the Stars go? It seems that he could be a great leader for the future of the team.

I think he definitely wants to return, but you have to way whatever Eric gets with what players like Garbutt and Roussel are getting. If the Stars believe they can get by with cheaper alternatives, they might allow Nystrom to test free agency.

Even without Nystrom:

Pyatt + late pick for McBain.
Powe for McLeod + late pick.

4th line:
Asham - Boyle - Dorsett
McLeod.

 

[KreidertheGlider]

What does that leave for options? Big guys who lack skill, or haven't put it together yet, or have some flaw. Filling your team with those players is a recipe for disaster.

That's the type of player I want to go after in the future. High risk, high reward

 

[Glennsoe]

Found at http://snyrangersblog.com/rangers/read-matt-hendricks-could-hit-free-agency/

Would this be a good signing?

In the NY Post recently, Larry Brooks wrote that Capitals center Matt Hendricks has made an impression on the Rangers after playing him in back to back seven game series.

Brooks says that Hendricks is a “jagged-edge center who kills penalties and fits the Black and Blueshirt mold.”

He expects the Rangers to place a call into Hendricks if he becomes a free agent on July 5.

On Hendricks, Karl Alzner told the Washington Times,“it would suck to see a guy like that go. He’s the type of guy that every guy, every team wants to have.”

Jay Beagle said that Hendricks is the kind of guy who will take a puck in the face if it will help the team.

Jason Chimera told the Washington Post that Hendricks is the kind of guy that you can’t replace if you lose.

In the Washington Post, Katie Carrera spoke with Hendricks and his agent and reported that there is nothing going on in terms of a new contract.

Henricks will turn 32 in two weeks and while returning to the Capitals is his top choice, he isn’t afraid of becoming a free agent and signing a deal that can set up his family.

Carerra expects Hendricks to fall between the $1.6 million that Nate Thompson signed and the $2.5 million that Brandon Prust signed.

 

[RangerBoy]

For example, EDM's No. 7 overall pick, as well as players, are available. While it's possible EDM drafts at 7, my guess is it gets dealt.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/343496989209673728

Also, PHI is in market for D and may be willing to move one of their young centres - B Schenn or Couturier - for the right deal.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/343498209659858944

Schenn has played left side in Philly. They considered putting Schenn on the right side.

“I think it’s a good thing to be a versatile player and play all over the place,” Schenn said. “Whether that’s at center, left wing or right wing. ... Getting the opportunity to play with Giroux and Hartnell, I’m looking forward to it and I’ll make the most of it. It’s an opportunity for me to play with one of the top players in the league (in Giroux) and Hartnell is coming off a great year. So I’ll just try to blend in, find chemistry as quickly as possible and hopefully step up in that role.”

http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/01/14/sports/doc50f4ea3e90fe0380423391.txt?viewmode=2

As I said, nothing is carved in stone but the Gonchar trade yesterday, IMO, signalled the beginning of the busy season leading up to draft.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/343498928542580736

 

[Ola]

How many would trade MDZ for Schenn?