Speculation: 2013 Offseason Thread Part III: Free Agents Suck

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I don't know our identity, we lost it from the Nash trade and we started to establish a new one with the Gaborik trade. Our new coach is going to have a huge hand in establishing a new identity.

Our best roster, imo, will be a balance of skill/speed/toughness. We should strive for balance.

Style wise, I think this roster should still 'grind' but with a major emphasis on a better breakout. A lot of our players are/can be good on the rush, it should be a major part of our game. But we also need to grind it out when the opponent is able to shut the transition game down.

Speed will help with the breakout, board work and defensive positioning. We have many quick skaters. VERY mobile defensemen. Puck possession will skyrocket if we get faster. Our defensemen could be more aggressive if we got faster.
 
Pittspurgh is an offensive powerhouse. Boston is tough. Toronto is quick. What is our identity? It used to be shot blocking, now, I'm not even sure..... We need to find our game.

It needs to be speed and physical play. They have a good start with Kreider, Hagelin, Nash on the wings. Very mobile defense in McDonagh, MDZ, Staal, Stralman, Moore.

They need to find another center who can distribute the puck and be defensively responsible.

They need to add a bit of grit and size on the wings as well. Pyatt is not that. Asham is too slow at this point in his career. Powe adds no offense.

Nystrom is a good addition for that type of identity.

The major dilemma I am having is that I like Clowe as a player. I like what he brings both on the ice and in the locker room and I like how he dominates the boards and his obvious physical presence he has. However, if there plan is to go speed and size, he doesn't exactly fit.

However, there are very few players who play that style who are speedsters and they are hard to find.

Hartikainen in Edmonton would be a good addition with the way he plays. Glencross would as well who is a LWer but he will cost a lot is my guess.

Raymond would be a good addition to add more speed on the LW which is where they are weak.

Burmistrov makes sense due to his age and skillset. 2 way skilled center who can make slick passes and has tons of room to grow. Buy low. Perfect Sather reclamation project.

Fast and Lindberg are good skaters, can they figure into the lineup next year? Miller is the same.

Just my thoughts
 
It needs to be speed and physical play. They have a good start with Kreider, Hagelin, Nash on the wings. Very mobile defense in McDonagh, MDZ, Staal, Stralman, Moore.

They need to find another center who can distribute the puck and be defensively responsible.

They need to add a bit of grit and size on the wings as well. Pyatt is not that. Asham is too slow at this point in his career. Powe adds no offense.

Nystrom is a good addition for that type of identity.

The major dilemma I am having is that I like Clowe as a player. I like what he brings both on the ice and in the locker room and I like how he dominates the boards and his obvious physical presence he has. However, if there plan is to go speed and size, he doesn't exactly fit.

However, there are very few players who play that style who are speedsters and they are hard to find.

Hartikainen in Edmonton would be a good addition with the way he plays. Glencross would as well who is a LWer but he will cost a lot is my guess.

Raymond would be a good addition to add more speed on the LW which is where they are weak.

Burmistrov makes sense due to his age and skillset. 2 way skilled center who can make slick passes and has tons of room to grow. Buy low. Perfect Sather reclamation project.

Fast and Lindberg are good skaters, can they figure into the lineup next year? Miller is the same.

Just my thoughts

Well said. I would love to add Glencross and I heard you talking up Raymond earlier today and he sounds great too. Burmistrov will cost too much to get.

I agree, it is hard to find players who are both fast and tough. Skaters are usually 1 or the other
 
Boston doesnt have one superstar center, yet look at them. Its all about depth and what players work well together. Pittsburgh is being manhandled by them even more than we were at times.

Patrice Bergeron would probably be the best player on this team. Krejci is also very good.
 
We need to get bigger.
Clowe is worth the 2rd pick investment. I can't think of somebody else that provide what he does. Provided he is healthy and the cost is reasonable, 3M for 3 years.
I like boyler ideas, but that 3rd line needs a bigger wing.
 
I want Stalberg on July 5. Adds size and a lot of speed and can play an energy game on any top 2 lines as a fill in but best suited for 3rd line. PK is part of his game. I'd love Bickell but he will be a big overpayment bust type along with Clarkson. Stalberg is Sather type under the radar signing.
 
We need to get bigger.
Clowe is worth the 2rd pick investment. I can't think of somebody else that provide what he does. Provided he is healthy and the cost is reasonable, 3M for 3 years.
I like boyler ideas, but that 3rd line needs a bigger wing.

Bigger and add more speed. For a small team Rangers aren't that fast...
 
I want Stalberg on July 5. Adds size and a lot of speed and can play an energy game on any top 2 lines as a fill in but best suited for 3rd line. PK is part of his game. I'd love Bickell but he will be a big overpayment bust type along with Clarkson. Stalberg is Sather type under the radar signing.

Stalberg is intriguing.
Stalberg - Lindberg - Hagelin would be a pretty fast line.
 
Boston doesnt have one superstar center, yet look at them. Its all about depth and what players work well together.

You make it sound like they have a bunch of plumbers. They don't. They have Bergeron, Krejci, Lucic, Horton, Seguin and Marchand. Developing that much talent that comes together at the right time isn't an easy feat to accomplish. Guys like Hagelin and Zucc don't measure up. And the B's also set their foundation going after a UFA monster Dman in Chara.
 
You make it sound like they have a bunch of plumbers. They don't. They have Bergeron, Krejci, Lucic, Horton, Seguin and Marchand. Developing that much talent that comes together at the right time isn't an easy feat to accomplish. Guys like Hagelin and Zucc don't measure up. And the B's also set their foundation going after a UFA monster Dman in Chara.

Exactly! They have freaking Tyler Seguin playing 3rd line! Seguin could possible be the most talented individual on the team and the Rangers would heavily rely on him to be a 1st line player. The Bruins have the luxury of moving a potential elite player in Seguin down to the 3rd line, a HHOFer to the 3rd line or a good 1st line complimentary player in his prime in Horton to the 3rd line. Pales in comparison. These two teams are far apart in the talent aspect amongst forwards.
 
For no particular reason I have this horrid feeling that Slats is going to go hard after Iginla, 3 yrs at $5.5-6 per :(
 
Wow if this is for real the Rangers should do anything possible to get Malkin. He could pretty much turn this team into a contender by himself.

Why would Pittsburgh even consider trading him? Am I missing something?
even if the Pens look to unload Malkin, they are not trading him to the Rangers! He will go out of conference.
 
I'd have to imagine that Malkin would be a much harder sell than one would expect with his contract expiring next season.
 

It's the upgrade to our offense that we need, but, what would it cost us to get it?
Crazy proposal, and I'm probably nuts for proposing it, but how about a package revolving around Lundqvist for Malkin? We get the boost to our offence that we need, solve our center problem in an instant,(Malkin-Stepan-Brassard-Boyle/Miller/Lindberg is quite the lineup), and then sign a goalie(Either a bought out Luongo, or maybe try to trade for Bernier.). Pittsburgh fixes it's biggest problem, terrible goaltending, with the best goalie in the league. It's a crazy proposal, and one that would never happen, but I'm curious what other people think of it.

Edit: We'd be dealing with an extended Malkin here, either a promise to resign with us, or an extention by Pittsburgh before the trade. Not doing this for one year.
 
I would be interested in Viktor Stalberg. He would come cheaper than Bickell probably. a 3rd line of Kreider- Miller- stalberg? that's insanely fast life
 
Wow if this is for real the Rangers should do anything possible to get Malkin. He could pretty much turn this team into a contender by himself.

Why would Pittsburgh even consider trading him? Am I missing something?

The Rangers fanbase would eventually hate Malkin. Stay away.
 
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