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nsvoyageurs said:
You'd like for them to sign players that have some offensive upside. This kid looks like a 3rd liner at best; they already have enough of those.
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Well, if they think the kid is a relatively safe bet to become a third line player in the league, it's not a bad move. It's like an extra second or third round pick. The problem is we sign guys like Tommy Grant that have AHL-caliber skills and nothing more. I'm not sold on Kantor from the couple times I saw him. Very limited sample size though. We'll see.
 
nsvoyageurs said:
You'd like for them to sign players that have some offensive upside. This kid looks like a 3rd liner at best; they already have enough of those.
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I think that would be a home-run if he became a 3rd liner. All I want to know is what type of player is he? Can he forecheck effectively? PK? Players like that are still useful.
 
nyr2k2 said:
Well, if they think the kid is a relatively safe bet to become a third line player in the league, it's not a bad move. It's like an extra second or third round pick. The problem is we sign guys like Tommy Grant that have AHL-caliber skills and nothing more. I'm not sold on Kantor from the couple times I saw him. Very limited sample size though. We'll see.
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The fact that they got Mashinter for Grant is amazing to me.
 
The OHL site had Kantor's hometown in Illinois. The Rangers site has Kantor being born in NYC.

Looks more like the battler type. Good size-will drop the gloves. Puts up some points now and again. He's at least a couple years away I would think.
 
You need EVERY type of player in your system. This idea that we should ONLY be signing guys with good offensive upside is ridiculous.
 
Tawnos said:
You need EVERY type of player in your system. This idea that we should ONLY be signing guys with good offensive upside is ridiculous.
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While I agree, it seems like we sign these type of players exclusively, and bottom pair dmen.
 
@mkantor13 11h
Being a rangers fan my whole life having season tickets since 1964 and growing up on Long Island it's a dream come true!! #NYR

That's pretty cool I guess.
 
NYR957 said:
@mkantor13 11h
Being a rangers fan my whole life having season tickets since 1964 and growing up on Long Island it's a dream come true!! #NYR

That's pretty cool I guess.
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We just signed a guy who has had season tickets for 49 years? :amazed:
 
After signing M Kantor here is the roster...

I wonder if Kantor played any hockey against John Moore as Kantor is out of Lake Forest and Moore out of Winnetk, Illinois? I remember myself playing Lake Forest many times as a member of the Winnetka squad, they were not very good back then...

Anyways here is a new list of -
PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013 (50)

NEW YORK RANGERS (26 - 3 players on LTIR)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
1| D | McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) | $1,300,000* |RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2 |D| Sauer, Michael (LTIR) | $1,250,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #40 NYR (2005)
3| F | Stepan, Derek (ELC)| $875,000 | RFA 2013 |New York Rangers/NHL|R2 #51 NYR (2008)
4| F | Hagelin, Carl (ELC) | $875,000* | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #168 NYR (2007)
5| F | Zuccarello, Mats| $700,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
6| F| Clowe, Ryan | $3,625,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
7| D| Hamrlik, Roman | $3,500,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Washington (1992)
8| D| Eminger, Steve | $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Washington (2002)
9| D | Gilroy, Matt| $650,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
10| F| Brassard, Derick | $3,200,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
11| D | Del Zotto, M. | $2,550,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #20 NYR (2008)
12| F | Kreider, Chris (ELC)| $1,325,000* | RFA 2014|New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #19 NYR (2009)
13| D| Moore, John (ELC)| $965,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
14| G | Lundqvist, Henrik | $6,875,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #208 NYR (2000)
15| F | Callahan, Ryan | $4,275,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #127 NYR (2004)
16| D| Girardi, Dan | $3,325,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
16| D| Stralman, Anton| $1,700,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
18| F| Boyle, Brian (DtD)| $1,700,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
19| F | Pyatt, Taylor | $1,550,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
20| F | Powe, Darroll | $1,066,667 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
21| G |Biron, Martin | $1,300,000 |UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
22| F | Asham, Arron | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
23| D | Staal, Marc (LTIR) | $3,975,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 NYR (2005)
24| F| Dorsett, Derek (LTIR) | $1,633,333 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
25| F | Nash, Rick (NMC) | $7,800,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
26| F | Richards, Brad (NMC) | $6,666,667 | UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL| R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)[/table]

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (24)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
27| D | Niemi, Jyri (ELC) | $700,000*| RFA 2013| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R3 #72 NYI (2008)
28| F | Ferriero, Benn | $700,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
29| D | Pyett, Logan | $600,000| RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
30| F | Palmieri, Nick | $577,500 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL | R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
31| F | Mashinter, Brandon | $550,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
32| D | Collins, Sean | $600,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
33| F | Segal, Brandon| $550,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
34| D| Vernace, Mike | $525,000| UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #201 San Jose (2004)
35| F | Jean, Kyle (ELC)| $925,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
36| F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) | $900,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R3 #80 NYR (2009)
37| G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC) | $750,000* |RFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL|Undrafted
38| G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC)| $700,000* | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL|R5 #140 NYR (2009)
39| F | Wilson, Jason (ELC)| $588,333 | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #130 NYR (2010)
40| D | Bickel, Stu| $750,000| UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted
41| F | Newbury, Kris | $600,000 |UFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
42| F | Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
43| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC)| $1,295,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #10 NYR (2010)
44| F | Miller, J.T. (ELC)| $1,244,167* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #15 NYR (2011)
45| F | Thomas, Christian (ELC)| $970,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R2 #40 NYR (2010)
46| F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC)| $900,000* |RFA 2015|Connecticut Whale/AHL| R6 #157 NYR (2010)
47| F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC)| $800,000 | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #100 NYR (2010)
48| F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) | $760,000* |RFA 2015| Loaned to Skellefteå AIK/SEL| R2 #57 PHX (2010)
49| F | Hrivik, Marek (ELC)| $685,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
50| G | Talbot, Cameron | $562,600 | UFA 2015| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted[/table]

CONTRACTED PLAYERS THAT DO NOT COUNT against 50 contract limit in 2013 (4)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
+| D | Allen, Connor (ELC)| $1,775,000*| RFA 2016|Connecticut Whale/AHL?|undrafted
+| D | Hughes, Tommy (ELC)| $608,333*| RFA 2016|London Knights/OHL|undrafted
+| F | Nicholls, J. (ELC)| $709,167 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
+| F | St. Croix, M. (ELC S)| $665,000 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011)
+| F | Kantor, Michael (ELC)| $$ ?? NA| RFA 2016??| Juniors - Sudbury Wolves/OHL|Undrafted
[/table]

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR (there are a few more here I believe)
[table="head;width=2500]Pos| Player|Team| Drafted
D |Pashnin, Mikhail| HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL |R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA| R3 #72 NYR (2011)
F |McColgan, Shane| Saskatoon Blades/WHL | R5 #134 NYR (2011)
D |Noreau, Samuel | Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ |R5 #136 NYR(2011)
D |ČereÅ¡ňák, Peter| Peterborough Petes/OHL| R6 #172 NYR (2011)
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA |R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F |Nieves, Cristoval | Michigan Wolverines/CCHA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D |Andersson, Calle| Malmö /HA | R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F |Spelling, Thomas| Oskarshamn/HA | R5 #142 NYR(2012)[/table]

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013
  • 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 3rd round Columbus (in Nash trade 2012, conditional - that NYR do not go to SC finals in 2013)
  • 4th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR

  • NO 1st rounder (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
  • NO 2nd rounder (traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013)
  • NO 5th rounder (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
  • NO 7th rounder (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)
NYR Draft picks in 2014
  • 1st round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 6th round Columbus (for Marian Gaborik)

  • Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR or NYR get to ECF in 2013 - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th-round pick in 2014 if neither condition is met.)
  • Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)
 
NYR957 said:
@mkantor13 11h
Being a rangers fan my whole life having season tickets since 1964 and growing up on Long Island it's a dream come true!! #NYR

That's pretty cool I guess.
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Uh oh, the last life long Rangers fan we signed ended up making pizzas:sarcasm:
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
I think that would be a home-run if he became a 3rd liner. All I want to know is what type of player is he? Can he forecheck effectively? PK? Players like that are still useful.
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I think Kantor is a prospect the Rangers fans will love. He'll skate through a wall to win. He was the wolves best PKer and shot blocker this year. Great on the fore-check and can absolutely lay people out in open ice. Has some pretty good skating and hands would consider him a bit underated in an offensive regard.

Would have probably had a bigger season but ended up blocking a shot off his face mid season which caused him to miss a month and seemed to really throw off his game for a bit.

Was also named the wolves MVP at the pre-season junior world championships that they played in russia.
 
djscooter said:
I think Kantor is a prospect the Rangers fans will love. He'll skate through a wall to win. He was the wolves best PKer and shot blocker this year. Great on the fore-check and can absolutely lay people out in open ice. Has some pretty good skating and hands would consider him a bit underated in an offensive regard.

Would have probably had a bigger season but ended up blocking a shot off his face mid season which caused him to miss a month and seemed to really throw off his game for a bit.

Was also named the wolves MVP at the pre-season junior world championships that they played in russia.
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See that is what I was asking for. Thank you very much for doing this. If he can come in and be a force on the forecheck, fight a little and PK then it's a good signing.
 
djscooter said:
I think Kantor is a prospect the Rangers fans will love. He'll skate through a wall to win. He was the wolves best PKer and shot blocker this year. Great on the fore-check and can absolutely lay people out in open ice. Has some pretty good skating and hands would consider him a bit underated in an offensive regard. Would have probably had a bigger season but ended up blocking a shot off his face mid season which caused him to miss a month and seemed to really throw off his game for a bit.

Was also named the wolves MVP at the pre-season junior world championships that they played in russia.
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what player does he compare best too??? David Clarkson (also undrafted UFA), Todd Harvey, Sean Avery, Brandon Prust???
 
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