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NYRSchrute217 said:
The thing I love about Syndergaard is that he looks like Harvey when he pitches, both delivery wise and demeanor. He also has the late movement on his pitches that Harvey has, whereas Wheeler is more finesse and needs to learn how to control his pitches better. We've definitely seen flashes with Wheeler, like the SF start and last night taking a no hitter into the 7th. He still needs to compose himself when he gets in trouble a bit more, but he's going to be a good one.

Combine that with Montero, Mejia, and Niese, the Mets rotation is going to be incredible, possibly as soon as mid year in 2014. Now the key is figuring out how to flip this pitching into good OF prospects.
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really, we are only just a few players away. pitching seems set but the bp needs to settle in a bit. parnell still scares me.

flores is tearing it up this year. murph is playing amazing as well, so 2nd base looks good.

we just drafted a young lefty 1st baseman as a hedge against ike.

david wright is in his prime and signed.

cf and ss, atleast defensively, seems good. you can win being strong up the middle even if they dont hit a ton.

d'arnaud is healthy should be our backstop with pop for the future.

corner of is our one glaring weakness. im hoping a package of 'spin and a pitching prospect or 2 (montero ?) can get us a guy with some pop that can play of. andre ethier comes to mind.

if we do an ethier deal it has to be for 2nd level prospects and la would need to pickup some/most of that awful contract.

we wont get a top young power of ( stanton or gonzalez) without parting with a big time arm and im not sure we will do that.

this organization is close. very close. lets hope we stay patient and not move top arms for a past his prime of'er.
 
Mark Teixiera - 23.125,000 - starting 1B
CC Sabathia - 23,000,000 - SP
Derek Jeter - 8,000,000 - starting SS
Kuroda - 15,000,000 - SP
Granderson - 15,000,000 - starting LF
Cano - 25,000,000 - starting 2B
Wells 2,400,000 -
Ichiro - 6,500,000 - starting RF
Soriano - 5,000,000 - DH

123M

esimated payroll left (54M, which is for 177M) with our arbitration guys being Kelley, Robertson, Gardner, Logan and Pineda..

They will also have guys making next to nothing like Nova, Phelps, Claiborne, Nunez, Romine etc who are pen + back up + a 3/4 starter in Nova.

Can they sign their arbitration guys and get a #4 starter, a 3rd baseman and a bench for that $53M remaining? I don't see why not.The question is what do you offer Cano and Granderson (fluke injury)?

If Arod is suspended and misses the 2014 season, the Yankees can still field (on paper) a very good contending team.
 
6:15pm: MLB is prepared to ban Alex Rodriguez for the remainder of his playing career, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today. An announcement will likely come tomorrow or Friday, according to Nightengale's sources. Rodriguez's attorney, David Cornwell, says that the Yankee third baseman will appeal any suspension he receives. According to the report, MLB will base its action not only on Rodriguez's use of PEDs, but on the fact that he purportedly "lied to MLB officials while attempting to sabotage their investigation."
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ended-lifetime-suspension-biogenesis/2606319/
 
offdacrossbar said:
really, we are only just a few players away. pitching seems set but the bp needs to settle in a bit. parnell still scares me.

flores is tearing it up this year. murph is playing amazing as well, so 2nd base looks good.

we just drafted a young lefty 1st baseman as a hedge against ike.

david wright is in his prime and signed.

cf and ss, atleast defensively, seems good. you can win being strong up the middle even if they dont hit a ton.

d'arnaud is healthy should be our backstop with pop for the future.

corner of is our one glaring weakness. im hoping a package of 'spin and a pitching prospect or 2 (montero ?) can get us a guy with some pop that can play of. andre ethier comes to mind.

if we do an ethier deal it has to be for 2nd level prospects and la would need to pickup some/most of that awful contract.

we wont get a top young power of ( stanton or gonzalez) without parting with a big time arm and im not sure we will do that.

this organization is close. very close. lets hope we stay patient and not move top arms for a past his prime of'er.
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I don't think Valdespin has any value at all. He's still being an ******* down in AAA. He'd be a throw-in at absolute best. If I was an opposing GM, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my organization. If you're too ****ed up to be a Met, you have some real problems.
 
I am very against adding Ethier.

And SS and CF both seem disastrous to me right now. None of the SS we have are any good and as for CF Lagares is highly questionable right now due to his poor bat.
 
7:38pm: Rodriguez is negotiating with MLB on the terms of a suspension, reports*ESPN's T.J. Quinn. (Links*to*Twitter.) Quinn says that MLB is holding out the possibility of a lifetime ban while also preferring to avoid an appeal process, with Rodriguez coming to the negotiating table after learning of the extent of the evidence against him
 
I dont care if they ban him, he likely won't play next year (the budget year), so that saves the Yankees about 28M dollars to use to upgrade the team.
 
BroadwayBlues said:
The ban is still possible. but if not, saving 50+ million? isn't too bad. :laugh:

No Arod salary next year means they can spend in the off-season.
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I'd like to keep both Cano (6 years most) and Granderson (3 years most), but I'm not sure we could get them on those deals. I think both excel playing in YS and we need the pop with only Teixiera guaranteed for next year.
 
Fire Sather said:
I don't know what the rules are.. but I don't think being banned for 1 year means the Yanks can get out of the contract
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no you're right, but he will be 40 years old, coming off 2 hip surgeries (one on each hip), and out of the game for 2 years.. He might as well just go ahead and go the Albert Belle route and have drs declare him physically unable to play, he collects his money from insurance. I think thats honestly very likely if he sits all of 14.
 
I am a Met fan but this top of the 9th inning in the Yankees@Dodgers game has been fun to watch. And now Mo warming up.
 
Fire Sather said:
I don't know what the rules are.. but I don't think being banned for 1 year means the Yanks can get out of the contract
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The important thing for the Yankees is to get under the $189 million threshold for 2014. That will reset their luxury tax, and save them tens of millions going forward each year. Payroll can go back up in 2015 (way up if they so choose) and the luxury tax will still be reset.

So whether A-Rod is banned for life, or just next year, either one will get them under $189 million for next year.
 
Jersey Girl said:
The important thing for the Yankees is to get under the $189 million threshold for 2014. That will reset their luxury tax, and save them tens of millions going forward each year. Payroll can go back up in 2015 (way up if they so choose) and the luxury tax will still be reset.

So whether A-Rod is banned for life, or just next year, either one will get them under $189 million for next year.
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I don't follow or watch a lot of baseball, so what do you mean by luxury tax will be reset? They just have to get under 189 mil by a certain year and then they can spend over it?
 
RussianRangersFan said:
I don't follow or watch a lot of baseball, so what do you mean by luxury tax will be reset? They just have to get under 189 mil by a certain year and then they can spend over it?
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Too complicated for a forum post (please feel free to google for a more detailed answer), but IIRC if the Yankees are below $189 million even for 2014 only their luxury tax resets from the current 50 percent back to something like 15-20 percent...a huge savings.
 
RussianRangersFan said:
I don't follow or watch a lot of baseball, so what do you mean by luxury tax will be reset? They just have to get under 189 mil by a certain year and then they can spend over it?
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the penalty for repeat offenders going over the luxury tax is 50 percent in new cba, if the Yankees get under 189M next year it "resets" so after 14' the Yankees can go over 189 and they will pay 17 percent tax instead of 50
 
nyr2k2 said:
I don't think Valdespin has any value at all. He's still being an ******* down in AAA. He'd be a throw-in at absolute best. If I was an opposing GM, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my organization. If you're too ****ed up to be a Met, you have some real problems.
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You can probably put Valdespin in the category with:

Escobar
Milledge
Fernando Martinez
 
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