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I think Cally missing is much more than just physicality. He is a guy who can get goals and provide a boost to everyone. Perhaps it is overboard but I worry about the team when Ryan is out.
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Dorsett will be worn out after 40 games if he's the only one doing the dirty work.He's too small to take on someone every other night..That is one pretty soft line up everyone is predicting.
Fitzy
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I think we should keep Asham around for that reason. Also, with injuries guys like Haley can be readily called up.
Boyle, much as I like him will also need to play with a bee in his bonnet this season if he is used on the wing.
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I know it seems like the Rangers will have Bickel, Falk or Johnson as the #7/8/9 d-men but if Theo Peckham hits waivers from Chicago, would anyone feel more comfortable with him as the #7? I would.
Also, it will be interesting to see what teams are interested in Tootoo as I am sure he will hit waivers for the Wings.
Also, it will be interesting to see what teams are interested in Tootoo as I am sure he will hit waivers for the Wings.
Yeah, waivers should be interesting. I'd imagine we might see a handful of minor trades to start the year as well while teams swap waiver fodder. If/when the Rangers get healthy, we have likely one of Pyatt, Boyle, Moore or Dorsett in the press box. It'd be better to trade one of them to a team that needs a bottom-six regular and keep Haley as the spare forward. Pyatt most likely.
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Falk has good size and is still young at age 25, I am pretty happy with him.
If I thought a Hal Gill or other alternative would be happy as a 7th, maybe, but I think NYR are happy with their set of blueliners. We finally have guys with NHL experience like Falk, Syvret, Johnson who can be called up and fill in.
Like him or not, Bickel was used on this team because there was no other reasonable option. We won't have situations like that any more.
I think Falk wins the #7, and I like the kid. The big hing is; do our defensemen drop a notch in defensive quality this season because of a more aggressive coaching strategy? I have advocated for more offense because the higher number of shots we face, the bigger difference having a goaltender like Henrik makes. So by all means, play aggressive. But it might expose guys like Stralman and MDZ on occasion.
If I thought a Hal Gill or other alternative would be happy as a 7th, maybe, but I think NYR are happy with their set of blueliners. We finally have guys with NHL experience like Falk, Syvret, Johnson who can be called up and fill in.
Like him or not, Bickel was used on this team because there was no other reasonable option. We won't have situations like that any more.
I think Falk wins the #7, and I like the kid. The big hing is; do our defensemen drop a notch in defensive quality this season because of a more aggressive coaching strategy? I have advocated for more offense because the higher number of shots we face, the bigger difference having a goaltender like Henrik makes. So by all means, play aggressive. But it might expose guys like Stralman and MDZ on occasion.
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Indeed, I've been suggesting it for awhile, not because I dislike Pyatt so much, I just like the other players more.
I would think teams will start dumping today? I mean why bother waiting.
NYR SHOULD put Powe, Bickel and Asham on. Although I think Asham should stay because I agree Dorsett will be beat up big time otherwise. Haley and Mashinter are good minor league options and can be stashed as I doubt they get claimed.
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Powe and Asham did not get claimed when they were waived this spring, I doubt they get claimed now.
Question is, out of an extra forward if you want to go for speed and PK ability in Powe, Veteran savvy and grit in Asham, or board play and a bit more offensive potential in Pyatt.
Question is, out of an extra forward if you want to go for speed and PK ability in Powe, Veteran savvy and grit in Asham, or board play and a bit more offensive potential in Pyatt.
Pecks is on a 2 way contract with the Blackhawks so he won't hit waivers. He is likely to have a good year where ever he ends up. But my hunch is he will stay within the Chicago Org at least for the year. Split between AHL and NHL.
He's still subject to waivers if they want to send him down, two way contracts don't affect that
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Don't think the 2 way has anything to do with it. According to CapGeek he is eligible.
A two-way contract just means that the player earns a different wage depending on whether he's in the NHL or the AHL. It doesn't affect his waiver status. He's absolutely subject to waivers.
Teams usually want to give their young guys a chance in the summer and heading into camp. Then when they get to camp and see the team on ice,they look to add a player or two. Powe and/or Asham aren't breaking the cap. The Rangers could trade one or both by taking another contract(career minor leaguer) back if a team is worried about having 50 SPCs.
We have enough pkers and to me, Powe and Pyatt are invisible out there 5 on 5. Need Asham's grit and he has a good shot.
I think Hagelin-Stepan-Callahan was one of our better lines in the playoffs last year, I feel like the chemistry would still be there. I see where you're coming from with the defensive downside of Kreider-Richards-Nash but that's also a line that should be taking offensive zone faceoffs and be on the puck more often than not.
I really like this lineup too, but yeah, you have Boyle and Dorsett backwards. I would bring Haley along too since as it was mentioned Dorsett is going to have a lot of heavy lifting. Hopefully Boyle starts the year well and we can trade him for a decent return (picks or prospects) once Cally and Hags are back, and then throw Haley in that 4LW spot.
Edit: Trading Boyle also depends on how Kreider does too, he's a bit of a question mark in our LW depth chart. Hopefully he does well but if not everyone would have to move up a slot and then we'd need Boyle for 3rd line duties and throw Haley on the fourth.
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Nash and Richards should not be on the same line. Torts pounded that square peg into the round hole enough last season. Richards-Nash and Kreider leaves Richards to carry the puck, he does not have the skating to do it anymore. Just my opinion but I think it's a bad combination.
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It looks like the team actually has sufficient bottom 6 depth this year. Last season, they had almost nobody. Now, they have a surplus of guys, both vets and prospects, fighting for those spots. Well done in that area.
Clown Fiesta
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Nash and Richards didn't work for Torts, doesn't mean AV can't find some success with them. He's changing roles and utilization of personnel. For instance how he's planning on having Kreider in front of the net.
Not saying a change in style will make Nash and Richards click, but it's possible. However, I do like Nash with Stepan better.
Reason being is that Stepan doesn't defer as much, he's definitely not selfish, but he's not afraid to make a party himself or take a shot if it's a higher quality chance than a pass to Nash.
I feel like Richards and Brassard tend to look for Nash first and it slows down their decision making a little.
Not saying a change in style will make Nash and Richards click, but it's possible. However, I do like Nash with Stepan better.
Reason being is that Stepan doesn't defer as much, he's definitely not selfish, but he's not afraid to make a party himself or take a shot if it's a higher quality chance than a pass to Nash.
I feel like Richards and Brassard tend to look for Nash first and it slows down their decision making a little.
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Completely agree. And to further the point even more all 3 on that line are defensive liabilities and do a lousy job back checking
well based on what the preseason has looked like so far yea that's the group but this will likely change.
Pyatt is going to likely play whether we like it or not then the other spots are anyones guess with Haley, Mashinter, Powe , Asham
Kids like Miller, Kristo, Lindberg, Hrvik, Fast will sub in for Cally and Hags while they are out
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