2013/2014 Minnesota Wild News and Notes - New Division and New Expectations

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mezcal

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Thing is, he is responsible for Yeo, and it's both logically consistent and correct that his job is shakier as a result of the product on the ice right now. He took the chance on Yeo, and he's putting his neck on the line for the guy by not firing him. The reason the mob isn't after him (...yet...) is that he's made a lot of good (or at least popular) moves, and so looking at his tenure holistically isn't nearly as much of an exercise in negativity.

Yeo, by comparison, has had the same struggles in three years with three radically different rosters, and has very limited success to show for himself. The team underperforms consistently. They control the puck the whole game but when it comes time to actually try and score they look completely baffled and lost. The team is getting minimal scoring for maximal effort. When one player goes through that, sure, he's "snakebit" or it's a cold streak or a mental thing or whatever. But when it's affecting an entire team over a period of multiple years? It's not a personnel issue and it's not a lack of talent or character.

Well said. Don't forget the fact that we keep taking crappy shots, which makes us look better on paper but in reality we know they never had a chance of going in. His system doesn't generate a lot of even decent scoring chances.

Look at what a coaching change has done for Colorado. I know their roster has changed a bit, but they also have a new coach that has done quite a good job so far.
 

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Well said. Don't forget the fact that we keep taking crappy shots, which makes us look better on paper but in reality we know they never had a chance of going in. His system doesn't generate a lot of even decent scoring chances.

Look at what a coaching change has done for Colorado. I know their roster has changed a bit, but they also have a new coach that has done quite a good job so far.
It's been 2 weeks. Just 2 weeks! Unbelievably far from enough of a sample size to determine whether the coaching change was good for Colorado. Remember what happened to the Wild when they hired Yeo? Remember how well that coaching change started? Top of the league in December, and people thought Yeo was unstoppable. And then what happened next? BAM! Bug hit the windshield. Way too soon to judge the Avs' new boys behind the bench. Way, way, way too soon.
 

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At least with Roy you know he's pissed off when he's pissed off. What have we seen out of Yeo? A little bit of shouting and a couple of press conferences where he looks like he's about to cry. Hockey isnt about crying! It's about getting PISSED OFF ANDSHOVING THE PUCK IN THE GOAL EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONES HEAD OFF TO DO IT!

And I think Roy probably gets that more than Yeo does.
 

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At least with Roy you know he's pissed off when he's pissed off. What have we seen out of Yeo? A little bit of shouting and a couple of press conferences where he looks like he's about to cry. Hockey isnt about crying! It's about getting PISSED OFF ANDSHOVING THE PUCK IN THE GOAL EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONES HEAD OFF TO DO IT!

And I think Roy probably gets that more than Yeo does.
Roy will quickly become a joke with his anger problems, which won't help him in regards to the refs. And while I support being tough, the Avs are starting to take guys out. There's a difference between having toughness vs. getting suspended.
 

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True. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing just a little spark from Yeo directed at...anyone really. Anyone remember the last time we saw Mike Yeo have a "Mike Yeo is tired of your bullcrap" moment? No the youtube video doesn't count.
 

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True. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing just a little spark from Yeo directed at...anyone really. Anyone remember the last time we saw Mike Yeo have a "Mike Yeo is tired of your bullcrap" moment? No the youtube video doesn't count.
Won't disagree with ya there.
 

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I agree that Roy has too small of a sample size to judge, and the comparison to Yeo's first year is astute.

But man I'd love to have a coach with that kind of passion. Playing for Roy, you succeed or god help you.

And, really, let's not forget that we're comparing a mediocre minor-league grinder with the undisputed greatest player ever to play his position. I know that great coaches and great players are not always equivalent, but still. The expectations coming down from the coach are just a bit different when they're coming from the only three-time Conn Smythe winner, versus someone whose ceiling was the Houston Aeros.
 

mezcal

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At least with Roy you know he's pissed off when he's pissed off. What have we seen out of Yeo? A little bit of shouting and a couple of press conferences where he looks like he's about to cry. Hockey isnt about crying! It's about getting PISSED OFF ANDSHOVING THE PUCK IN THE GOAL EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONES HEAD OFF TO DO IT!

And I think Roy probably gets that more than Yeo does.

Exactly. I agree.
 

mezcal

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It's been 2 weeks. Just 2 weeks! Unbelievably far from enough of a sample size to determine whether the coaching change was good for Colorado. Remember what happened to the Wild when they hired Yeo? Remember how well that coaching change started? Top of the league in December, and people thought Yeo was unstoppable. And then what happened next? BAM! Bug hit the windshield. Way too soon to judge the Avs' new boys behind the bench. Way, way, way too soon.

Look at what a coaching change has done for Colorado. I know their roster has changed a bit, but they also have a new coach that has done quite a good job so far.

There is no doubt that they have gone from what was completely mediocre to what now looks like will be a contender this year. Colorado looks like a totally different team now.
 

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I agree that Roy has too small of a sample size to judge, and the comparison to Yeo's first year is astute.

But man I'd love to have a coach with that kind of passion. Playing for Roy, you succeed or god help you.

And, really, let's not forget that we're comparing a mediocre minor-league grinder with the undisputed greatest player ever to play his position. I know that great coaches and great players are not always equivalent, but still. The expectations coming down from the coach are just a bit different when they're coming from the only three-time Conn Smythe winner, versus someone whose ceiling was the Houston Aeros.

Why would we compare Yeo to Hextall?
 

mezcal

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I hope we go on a winning streak at home, but it's going to be tough seeing as how we can't beat Florida. One thing I would like to add is, ever since Scandella was put back into the lineup, we haven't won a game :D.

Lineup needs changes, Parise and Koivu need to be split. Yeo needs to do something. Now that im not as pissed off about losing to the Panthers as I was last night, I must agree it would be dumb to fire Yeo right now. There is no logical replacement, the last guy I would want behind the Wild bench is Laviolette. Just no.
 

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After seeing that AHL video with Yeo yelling at his guys, I was hoping he'd bring that intensity and authority to the pro level.

With Yeo, it seems like he's so worried about "saying the right thing" and putting on this persona. To me, it seems like that media persona is hindering his authority to the team.
 

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Anthony LaPanta ‏@AnthonyLaPanta 6 min

Parise on the trip: "I had chances all trip. I need to put em in. It's really that simple."
 

Jarick

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I'm curious what pattern he uses. I remember many years ago he was using a Drury type curve which is a big open wedge, which would be perfect for shoveling the puck up so close to the goal. But it looks much milder now. Maybe worth trying again?

Oddly enough, the Parise pattern is the new name for the Drury curve for Easton.
 

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Rash decision will lead you to where the Vikings are now, lost and confused with no hope, but I fear Yeo is going to go down with the Parise-Koivu pairing unless secondary scoring miraculously picks up in the next week.
 

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I just read the latest Russo article, and I was wondering what some of your thoughts are on it.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/228709161.html


To me, it comes across like Yeo really does not know what he his doing: Russo keeps quoting Parise, who I guess has been saying that the Wild needs to be more aggressive around the net and not be just mainly active around the perimeter.

This is kind of a "Well ****ing duh!" statement. I also get from this that the team has had been discussing this for a while now, but for whatever reason, only now are they actually trying to do anything about it - this is on the coach if this is true, and I really do not understand this.

The article also talks about the first and third lines, and their success, while leaving out mainly the second line and the elephant in the room, whom Yeo I guess still does not have the balls to just ****ing bench for at least one game. Anyone would be better than that, even Fontaine, hell, a Twinkie sitting on the ice would be more useful.

Then there's the atrocious PK, which I am still completely mystified by, given that even last year we were way better.

I don't know, this article really made me question Yeo and his decisions. I am more and more starting to get the impression that he is just out of his league. He does not know how to adjust from his "clever" little setups in game at all.

One thing I have noticed from watching a lot of Hawks games, coach Q adjusts ****ing instantly when he feels it. He feels the pulse of his team and can get them going almost every time they aren't getting it done. Same with a number of the other good coaches in the league. Our coach just kind of glares from the bench and never really does anything.

I know blaming Koivu for all our offensive woes is the popular choice these days, but to me, he pretty much does what he is told, and is just playing out a system that he is told to do. That and every line issue tell me the coach isn't getting it quite right and doesn't know what to do.

Anyways, I got a strange impression from this article and was wondering if anyone else did as well.
 

WildFinn*

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I just read the latest Russo article, and I was wondering what some of your thoughts are on it.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/228709161.html


To me, it comes across like Yeo really does not know what he his doing: Russo keeps quoting Parise, who I guess has been saying that the Wild needs to be more aggressive around the net and not be just mainly active around the perimeter.

This is kind of a "Well ****ing duh!" statement. I also get from this that the team has had been discussing this for a while now, but for whatever reason, only now are they actually trying to do anything about it - this is on the coach if this is true, and I really do not understand this.

The article also talks about the first and third lines, and their success, while leaving out mainly the second line and the elephant in the room, whom Yeo I guess still does not have the balls to just ****ing bench for at least one game. Anyone would be better than that, even Fontaine, hell, a Twinkie sitting on the ice would be more useful.

Then there's the atrocious PK, which I am still completely mystified by, given that even last year we were way better.

I don't know, this article really made me question Yeo and his decisions. I am more and more starting to get the impression that he is just out of his league. He does not know how to adjust from his "clever" little setups in game at all.

One thing I have noticed from watching a lot of Hawks games, coach Q adjusts ****ing instantly when he feels it. He feels the pulse of his team and can get them going almost every time they aren't getting it done. Same with a number of the other good coaches in the league. Our coach just kind of glares from the bench and never really does anything.

I know blaming Koivu for all our offensive woes is the popular choice these days, but to me, he pretty much does what he is told, and is just playing out a system that he is told to do. That and every line issue tell me the coach isn't getting it quite right and doesn't know what to do.

Anyways, I got a strange impression from this article and was wondering if anyone else did as well.

Parise for coach, I like that he is a smart guy.
 
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