Miller Time NYR
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Because the defensively responsible, pk specialist bottom 6 center is such an integral part of this teams success' and failure's.
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Because the defensively responsible, pk specialist bottom 6 center is such an integral part of this teams success' and failure's.
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Ex Officer Friendly
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Boom Boom.... Pls
BB is fine as long as he isn't in the top6 he is a good player for winning draws and being a good 4th liner but he cannot be counted on for 20 goals like that one season
Miller Time NYR
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Well it's a damn good thing he doesn't play top 6 minutes and and even better thing he isn't realistically expected to score 20 a season. Although some people around here treat him like he's supposed to be a top 6 forward and is supposed to be relied on to score goals which I will never understand. Maybe he should just got back to work with Barbara Underhill so people can talk about that forever.
slipknottin
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Who wants him in the top 6?
I thought the argument was 3rd line vs. 4th line?
He is roughly a 15 goal guy. 25-30 points a season. That puts him somewhere around 100 or so in the league in terms of center production.
100/30 teams = 3.33 = a bit better than average in terms of point production from a 3rd line center.
That he is currently outproducing Brassard in every aspect is a bigger concern.
Thirty One
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When does everyone think Nash will be able to come back? I was thinking 2nd week of December or so
Ex Officer Friendly
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I did not say anyone did, but it certainly seemed like last season he was playing alot of minutes.
and 15 goals??
where did you get that number?
His goal totals have been 4,4,4,21,11,2 and this season 1 so far that's an average of 7.6 goals a year
As for points he has been 5,5,6,35,26,5, and this season 6 thats an average of 13.6 points per year
btw the averages do not include this seasons number
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Thirty One
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If you include enough years of his life, Gretzky scored 17 goals a year.
Since 2010-11, he's scored 13 goals per 82 games. I don't think the data before that point in too indicative of the player he is today.
Ex Officer Friendly
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The difference is there is a big difference between 4 goals and 21 goals... the evidence points more to the fact that those were two good years and not a breakout.
To avoid being too far OT I think Nash will probably come back late November or early December... No need to rush him
Miller Time NYR
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I can totally see doc or whatever idiot is doing this big thanksgiving game against the bruins saying "the rangers are thankful today for the return of their star forward Rick Nash".
Also just another OT point regardless of the points he puts up Boyle wins faceoffs, plays good defense, and kills penalties what else do people want from a bottom center.
Also just another OT point regardless of the points he puts up Boyle wins faceoffs, plays good defense, and kills penalties what else do people want from a bottom center.
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And 2012-13 skews it to the negative. That's why we average.
You're ****ing with the wrong marine, wlotor.
2010-11/2011-12 are closer to what we should expect than 2013. If his shooting percentage was his career average this season, he'd be on pace for 15 goals this season, too.
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on pace for... while I want him to put up those 21 goals its better to plan on the lower side and then everything else is on the positive
Ail
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Young guys, plas. This thread is about injuries not superman Brian Boyle.
RangerBoy what's the latest for this am? Anything else on Nash?
RangerBoy what's the latest for this am? Anything else on Nash?
Thats not how HFboards work, especially if you personally like a player -- then the rule is to project to the absolute ceiling
See Brassard this off-season.
Ex Officer Friendly
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No #NYR practice today, though both Rick Nash and @mooredom said yesterday they might skate together today...
Per Jim Cerny
I see and this Brian Boyle we speak off for 3 pages now....he is injured?
This is Boyle's 6th season playing either regularly or semi-regularly. He has averaged more than 26 points for the season once and that was the year where he scored 21 goals on what seemed like 22 shots. You took some serious liberties with your statement. He's now a 15 - 20 point guy. 4th line.
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I'm having trouble reaching those numbers.
In the past four seasons, regular season and playoffs, he has 83 points in 253 games. That's a 27 point pace over an 82 game season. Please show your work.
You said he has been consistently in the high 20s/low 30s. He did that once (twice if u count 26 points; to me that's mid 20s) in a 6 year career.and that 35 point season carried a shooting % which has proven unsustainable. We need to find something else to disagree about. What do you think of the McI pick?
Playoffs? C'mon. You referenced an 82 game seaon; no
Playoffs in an 82 gam season. 15 is a little low. He'll likely be around 20 give or take a couple points. We need more from someone getting 3rd line minutez.
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His shooting percentage was hardly off the charts that year. It was 9.6%, compared to 7.7% for his career. But I had no idea you were capable of such quantitative analysis! So, I'm sure you're expecting a goal scoring outflow when his 2.4% rises this year, right?
It was probably wrong to say he's been consistently at that pace when it's such a small sample, but he's certainly been at that pace a lot more consistently than he's been below it.
