He is a better skater, is better with the puck on his stick and brings more effective physicality. I'd prefer he gets more ice time at ES than BB. And he's been staying away from bad penalties. You gotta be happy with his game at this point.
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He is a better skater, is better with the puck on his stick and brings more effective physicality. I'd prefer he gets more ice time at ES than BB. And he's been staying away from bad penalties. You gotta be happy with his game at this point.
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No, but you can see what happens away from the puck and Zucc's intelligence becomes more evident when that is available to you. Not every post should solicit sarcastic, obnoxious responses.
I want to see this team win another cup while Hank is Hank and i don't believe we get enough production out of our top two lines to allow us to have a 3rd line winger (or center) who doesn't score.
Unfortunately it looks like we're missing one 3rd line winger, so unless we get someone from Hartford or get a trade that will be a problem. Has to be the biggest hole on the roster. Not too long ago I called Pouliot an "average" 3rd liner. He is not.
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If/when the team finds a better option than Brian Boyle, I'll agree with you.
One thing I wont do is buy into options that simply aren't better when it comes to the joint cause of winning hockey games.
sure he has a good future but I think its more for next yr after a good yr in the minors
Pyatt, Pouliott are gone as UFA so a few spots on the wing will be open.............things can change but as of now I see Stepan, Brassard(C) , Nash, Kreider, Hagelin,(LW) Callahan, Dorsett (RW) in for sure next yr(Cally signs)
so a few wing spots are open
Boyle and Moore are UFA so Lindberg has a good shot next yr too. They have to kee adding cheaper kids with the cap
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Outside of last season, which was an abortion, Boyle's been consistently in the high 20s/low 30s pace for a 82 game season. I don't think you'll find many teams that have 3 third-liners that can outpace that. Especially with a OffZoneSt% of ~30%.
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Pouliot plays best when he plays with top talent. He played his best hockey with Hagelin and Richards. Breaking up the Cally - Rich - Hags line would be stupid. When Nash comes back, play him with Pouliot - Brassard and see if it gets them going. If it doesn't work I would go:
Nash - Richards - Hagelin/Callahan
Kreider - Stepan - Zuccarello
Pouliot - Brassard - Hagelin/Callahan
Boyle - Moore - Dorsett
Hagelin is a jump start. He can get Pouliot and Brassard going better then anyone else.
Nash - Richards - Hagelin/Callahan
Kreider - Stepan - Zuccarello
Pouliot - Brassard - Hagelin/Callahan
Boyle - Moore - Dorsett
Hagelin is a jump start. He can get Pouliot and Brassard going better then anyone else.
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boyle has had Two season where he scored more than 4 goals. TWO and those 2 seasons is where he also hit 20-30 points. outside of those he's been a plug on the 4th line (including in the Kings organization) and nothing else, which is where he belongs. Not centering the young guys.
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The Lunatic Fridge
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Except Hagelin has only played 2 years in the NHL and scored at least 10 goals in both and will extremely likely get over 10 this year again. Not to mention hagelin has hockey sense, blazing speed and an unteachable work ethic.
Boyle played 4th line on the kings before getting sent here.
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Is that really a fair comparison when Boyle has played basically twice as many seasons?
This would be hagelin's first full season when you consider the lockout was last year and the year before he came in 1/3 of the way into the season.
That being said I used to hate boyle, but I've come to appreciate him as a great 4th line defensive center/PK guy. As long as he's not being relied on to do anything else I'm good with boyler, seems like a great locker room guy.
Just wish he would play with a bit more of an edge at his size.
The Lunatic Fridge
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That's the entire problem with him.
He gets put on scoring lines because he's huge but no actual offense gets generated from it. 4th line and PK duties is all he should be responsible for.
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So three years ago Hagelin wasn't even good enough to play in the NHL? And now we're trusting him to play top six minutes?
My point is what happened 5-8 years ago isn't ultra relevant to the team now. Boyle is a different player than he was in his first three seasons in the league.
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Again, not a fair comparison three years ago there are a lot of people who were hagelin's age that were not "ready" to play big time minutes.
People take time to mature and come into their own. Boyle is what 28? 29? I think we know what he is by now. Sure I agree what happened 5-8 years ago isn't relevant but what Boyle is as a player now is relevant and he is not fit to play top 6 minutes on any team, let alone a team with cup aspirations.
FWIW when nash returns with moore in the lineup as well, boyle should be right where he is on the 4th line.
But injuries happen and the real question is whether boyle is a good fit as a third line winger compared to the other options we have in the system when other injuries happen.
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Again, not a fair comparison three years ago there are a lot of people who were hagelin's age that were not "ready" to play big time minutes.
People take time to mature and come into their own. Boyle is what 28? 29? I think we know what he is by now. Sure I agree what happened 5-8 years ago isn't relevant but what Boyle is as a player now is relevant and he is not fit to play top 6 minutes on any team, let alone a team with cup aspirations./QUOTE]
Are we even participating in the same conversation? I didn't make any of those points you're responding to.
gmerger37
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Again, not a fair comparison three years ago there are a lot of people who were hagelin's age that were not "ready" to play big time minutes.
People take time to mature and come into their own. Boyle is what 28? 29? I think we know what he is by now. Sure I agree what happened 5-8 years ago isn't relevant but what Boyle is as a player now is relevant and he is not fit to play top 6 minutes on any team, let alone a team with cup aspirations./QUOTE]
Are we even participating in the same conversation? I didn't make any of those points you're responding to.
LOL ok, if you say so guy.
The Lunatic Fridge
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So your arguement is, boyle sucked in the past but that doesn't mean he sucks now. Where as hagelin has done nothing but get better over time but we should not trust him with top 6 minutes?
It's not very hard to see he still does his old tendencies. Try to glide using the body down the boards then take a WEAK backhander at the net or when he comes down the blueline and takes a shot right into the goalie's chest because passing is just not an option for him.
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What I'm saying is that what happened 5-8 years ago should have nothing to do with how players are utilized now. Whether that be Boyle or Hagelin.So your arguement is, boyle sucked in the past but that doesn't mean he sucks now. Where as hagelin has done nothing but get better over time but we should not trust him with top 6 minutes?
It's not very hard to see he still does his old tendencies. Try to glide using the body down the boards then take a WEAK backhander at the net or when he comes down the blueline and takes a shot right into the goalie's chest because passing is just not an option for him.
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slipknottin
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This is rather short sighted.
Boyle and Brassard are averaging roughly the same ice time (boyle gets more time on PK and defensive draws)
Boyle has 42 shots on goal, compared to 27 for Brassard.
Boyle also has more assists than brassard.
The issue is just regression to the mean, Boyle is currently shooting at an unsustainably low 2.4%. Over his career he averages 7.7%. His shooting percentage will absolutely go up over the course of the season to closer to his average
