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Meh the baseball writing makes me kinda sick too. They all try way too hard to make the Twins look like a palatable team when they've been horrible for 3 years.
 
A click and comment generator. I fell for it this morning and it made me feel terrible about myself as a person. Job well done.
 
TaLoN said:
My guess...right shot. That is more important than anything to Yeo.
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My guess- To help out Moulson as he gets used to new team and system. He wants to keep Moulson with Koivu and Coyle the entire game, not just 5v5.
 
How come the Wild never play afternoon games?

As a Finn, it would be nice even for once to watch the Wild play when it isn't 4 a.m. here...
 
hokijanari said:
As a Finn, it would be nice even for once to watch the Wild play when it isn't 4 a.m. here...
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afternoon games are usually reserved for the Caps, Pens, Hawks, Flyers, Bruins, Rangers, Red Wings.. Teams they think we want to see. We don't even get Canadian teams on NBC and they only show afternoon games when the football season winds down so as not to compete in the ratings (thats just my observation). Even though Habs and Bruins might be a really entertaining game, there is zero chance it'd be on NBC on a Sunday afternoon. I do remember the Wild against the Bruins at noon on Hockey Day in America 2 years ago (and winning) Other than that, pretty much no chance that happens unless they win 3 cups in 4 years or acquire Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin..
 
5th year in the row, Minnesota will finish in the bottom 10 for goals scored and their looking at their 2nd worse year since GMCF has taken over for the organization in terms of goal scoring.

2009-2010 22nd Overall
2010-2012 26th Overall
2011-2012 30th Overall
2012-2013 23rd Overall
2013-2014 27th Overall

We have only TWO players that reached 20 goals this season, and three other players hitting double digits (so far none of them have hit even 15 goals). None of our centers even managed to get 10 (so far).

In our division:

St. Louis - Two players that have 20 + goals but 6 others hitting double digits including Brendan Morrow. They traded Stewart, so I guess 5 now.

Chicago - Four of their players have hit 20 goals and another three have hit double digits.

Colorado - Has four players hit 20+ goals, and another three hitting double digits. O'Reilly, MacKinnon, Stastny and Duchene (all listed as centers but they can't be) have hit twenty goals and are actually leading the way.

Dallas - Has only two 20 goal scorers, but six more have hit double digits, including one with 15 goals.

This isn't just the players.

Guys like Erik Cole, Ryan Garbutt, Alex Chiasson, Antoine Roussel, Andrew Shaw, Bryan Bickell, Patrik Berglund, Brenden Morrow are outscoring a good chunk of our team.

A) Yeo has to go
B) We need to find more catalysts on offense. Something outside of just Yeo is stifling the offense and badly. This isn't just about bringing in Vanek, this team needs to have a top down change in philosophy and learn to generate some offense.
C) Pressure needs to be put on Fletcher to find a coach that can inject some offense into the lineup. We have guys that can play but for some odd reason, they aren't.
 
thestonedkoala said:
5th year in the row, Minnesota will finish in the bottom 10 for goals scored and their looking at their 2nd worse year since GMCF has taken over for the organization in terms of goal scoring.

2009-2010 22nd Overall
2010-2012 26th Overall
2011-2012 30th Overall
2012-2013 23rd Overall
2013-2014 27th Overall

We have only TWO players that reached 20 goals this season, and three other players hitting double digits (so far none of them have hit even 15 goals). None of our centers even managed to get 10 (so far).

In our division:

St. Louis - Two players that have 20 + goals but 6 others hitting double digits including Brendan Morrow. They traded Stewart, so I guess 5 now.

Chicago - Four of their players have hit 20 goals and another three have hit double digits.

Colorado - Has four players hit 20+ goals, and another three hitting double digits. O'Reilly, MacKinnon, Stastny and Duchene (all listed as centers but they can't be) have hit twenty goals and are actually leading the way.

Dallas - Has only two 20 goal scorers, but six more have hit double digits, including one with 15 goals.

This isn't just the players.

Guys like Erik Cole, Ryan Garbutt, Alex Chiasson, Antoine Roussel, Andrew Shaw, Bryan Bickell, Patrik Berglund, Brenden Morrow are outscoring a good chunk of our team.

A) Yeo has to go
B) We need to find more catalysts on offense. Something outside of just Yeo is stifling the offense and badly. This isn't just about bringing in Vanek, this team needs to have a top down change in philosophy and learn to generate some offense.
C) Pressure needs to be put on Fletcher to find a coach that can inject some offense into the lineup. We have guys that can play but for some odd reason, they aren't.
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Buyout everyone, including Yeo. Then we have NOBODY stifling the offense.
 
Ok, is time for calculations yet?

19 games to go.
IMO 10 wins should do it.

It means 75p + 20p = 95 points in the end.
Coyotes have 69 points in 64 games. So they would have to win 13 games out of 18 just to get even.
 
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thestonedkoala said:
5th year in the row, Minnesota will finish in the bottom 10 for goals scored and their looking at their 2nd worse year since GMCF has taken over for the organization in terms of goal scoring.

2009-2010 22nd Overall
2010-2012 26th Overall
2011-2012 30th Overall
2012-2013 23rd Overall
2013-2014 27th Overall

We have only TWO players that reached 20 goals this season, and three other players hitting double digits (so far none of them have hit even 15 goals). None of our centers even managed to get 10 (so far).

In our division:

St. Louis - Two players that have 20 + goals but 6 others hitting double digits including Brendan Morrow. They traded Stewart, so I guess 5 now.

Chicago - Four of their players have hit 20 goals and another three have hit double digits.

Colorado - Has four players hit 20+ goals, and another three hitting double digits. O'Reilly, MacKinnon, Stastny and Duchene (all listed as centers but they can't be) have hit twenty goals and are actually leading the way.

Dallas - Has only two 20 goal scorers, but six more have hit double digits, including one with 15 goals.

This isn't just the players.

Guys like Erik Cole, Ryan Garbutt, Alex Chiasson, Antoine Roussel, Andrew Shaw, Bryan Bickell, Patrik Berglund, Brenden Morrow are outscoring a good chunk of our team.

A) Yeo has to go
B) We need to find more catalysts on offense. Something outside of just Yeo is stifling the offense and badly. This isn't just about bringing in Vanek, this team needs to have a top down change in philosophy and learn to generate some offense.
C) Pressure needs to be put on Fletcher to find a coach that can inject some offense into the lineup. We have guys that can play but for some odd reason, they aren't.
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A) Yes. Yeo still must go after this season unless we make some miraculous run in the playoffs.
B) You're right again. Assists are a dime a dozen in the NHL. Would you rather have a team collectively score 100 goals and have 200 assists or a team with 200 goals and 100 assists? Easy answer there. The Wild needs to find more guys who understand that/get rid of guys who don't seem to understand that. Assists are great, but not at the expense of scoring more goals.

Guys like Cole, Garbutt, Chiasson, Roussel, etc... they don't do anything special, they understand that just throwing the puck towards the crease is generally the best way to score goals, not routinely trying to thread the needle for an open back door play. While pretty, those type of plays are available less often than just putting the puck on net and scoring a dirty goal.
 
W75 said:
Ok, is time for calculations yet?

19 games to go.
IMO 10 wins should do it.

It means 75p + 20p = 95 points in the end.
Coyotes have 69 points in 64 games. So they would have to win 13 games out of 18 just to get even.
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Here are our remaining games:
St Louis
Edmonton
Rangers
Columbus
@ Boston
@ Isles
@ New Jersey
Detroit
@ Detroit
Vancouver
@ St Louis
@ Phoenix
@ Los Angeles
@ Chicago
Pittsburgh
@ Winnipeg
Boston
St Louis
Nashville

So looking at the absolute should win games, we get to play Boston twice, Pittsburgh once, St Louis three times, and teams like Chicago, Los Angeles, the Rangers, and Vancouver once each. Lots of teams that the Wild tend to lose to.

It's going to be tough, even with scrub teams like Edmonton, the Islanders, and New Jersey.
 
Even if it doesnt matter much i think its kind of bad that our best pointproducer is tied at 73rd place on the pointlist leaguewise..
 
Foxlockbox said:
Wild loses money the most out of any teams in the NHL. Is this something to be worried about? The owner (whose name I can't remember & tlz2gogl) has ******** ton of cash and Parise-Suter acquisition proved he is committed, but kinda shocked me that Wild are shedding more money than Coyotes/Panthers for example.
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It's a cashflow thing that has to do with Parise and Suter's heavily frontloaded bonus structure. I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
 
MuckOG said:
It's a cashflow thing that has to do with Parise and Suter's heavily frontloaded bonus structure. I don't think it's anything to be concerned about.
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I kinda realised this, but should probably have figured it out till the end myself.
 
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