2013-14 Minnesota Wild Discussion II

[TZM]

Gotta say I'm glad that the chase and dump has been reduced. Still quite a few questionable give aways per game.

 

[rynryn]

Gotta say I'm glad that the chase and dump has been reduced. Still quite a few questionable give aways per game.

risk/reward. comes with trying to be a more attack happy team.

 

[Avder]

Passing in general has been bad for most of the season. At the start of this year passing was crisp, tape to tape. That made it so much easier to break out, enter the offensive zone, and play the possession game.

 

[DeuceMN]

^



Poor bugger

And the Wild and stuff...

 

[Sarge58]

did anyone else get nervous when Bryz played the puck or looked around seemingly having no idea where the puck was or where it came from? could just be his style but i feel the need to close my eyes and hope he knows what he's doing.

 

[MNjens]

did anyone else get nervous when Bryz played the puck or looked around seemingly having no idea where the puck was or where it came from? could just be his style but i feel the need to close my eyes and hope he knows what he's doing.

I felt the same way.. also Russo mentioned some things like "I know I'm not a goalie expert but he didn't look good in practice". Lets just hope Kuemper doesn't get hurt

 

[TZM]

risk/reward. comes with trying to be a more attack happy team.

Not really. Puck possession gives you the chance to be in control but it doesn't guarantee success in offense. You can still be a defense orientated team even if you hold the puck to yourself.

 

[this providence]

Guessing Russo is going to ignore all Coyle questions in his chat...

 

[Ladde]

Guessing Russo is going to ignore all Coyle questions in his chat...

Well what can he say? He´s not in the coaching staff.

 

[grN1g]

^ Someone asked if he thought because Coyle was a righty he was seeing more time in the top6. Russo responded by saying he "partially" agreed, but leaned more towards its because of his wall play & defensive play.

quick edit: i still believe its because Yeo believe's Nino raises the game of Cooke and Brodz more than Coyle can.

 

[ThatGuy22]

This is one on Brodz is interesting.

Do you think Haula and Brodziak should be flip flopped. I feel like Erik could be more affective than Brodzy in that 3rd line role.

Russo:

I waver on this. As much as Brodziak has become the punching bag, the reality is it's because he gives himself so many great offensive looks and usually doesn't bury it. But the reality is he gets so many good offensive looks because he's usually doing everything right without the puck. He plays the system and his position well. Unfortunately, there are players in this league that was great with the puck and great without the puck. Brodziak isn't good with the puck. But that line needs to be a shutdown line and Brodziak has done a good job this year defensively. Like, to me, last year Brodziak had a bad year. He has been much better this year. Haula, with time, will probably eventually take his role. But it might not happen for a bit. Be patient

 

[Hall of Faber]

I laughed so hard at the guy who made the username Mike Yeo and asked about a extension.

 

[nickschultzfan]

This is one on Brodz is interesting.



Russo:

I'm going to disagree with Russo's analysis on Brodz failure to convert. He's just not that good in the 15 feet around the offensive net.

 

[Nino Noderreiter]

I'm going to disagree with Russo's analysis on Brodz failure to convert. He's just not that good in the 15 feet around the offensive net.

I think that was the gist of Russo's analysis but...

 

[ThatGuy22]

I'm going to disagree with Russo's analysis on Brodz failure to convert. He's just not that good in the 15 feet around the offensive net.

Pretty much what Russo said no? He's very good everywhere else, which leads to a lot of offensive chances. Just sucks he can't bury them.

 

[rynryn]

Not really. Puck possession gives you the chance to be in control but it doesn't guarantee success in offense. You can still be a defense orientated team even if you hold the puck to yourself.

i think my point stands. the Wild are trying to generate more offense and obviously they have to move the puck more/faster than they were. it leads to turnovers. you CAN also commit more turnovers than you were (historically) and still win more games.

 

[nickschultzfan]

I wasn't clear, but unless I am misremembering, Russo said that Brodziak was missing chances because his good positioning was getting him into positions to have chances, and then his hands weren't converting them.

I would say that Brodziak doesn't necessarily have "good" positioning in the offensive zone. He just stays high in the middle and gets feeds from his teammates, which he screws up. When he'd be more offensively effective if the roles were reversed and he was feeding his linemates that are better at shooting. Like that season he played really well with Heatley.

But I guess it's all how you look at it.

 

[Billy Mays Here*]

Wild playing great hockey. . . . then Koivu comes back. Now here we sit with three straight losses and I'm beginning to wonder if it's a coincidence or not.

 

[BusQuets]

Wild playing great hockey. . . . then Koivu comes back. Now here we sit with three straight losses and I'm beginning to wonder if it's a coincidence or not.

Well the Koivu's line was pretty good in Dallas and Blues game but not so much today.

 

[llamapalooza]

This season the Wild are 22-25 with Koivu in the lineup, 12-6 without. I'm not a "strip the C from Koivu" rabblerouser or anything, but those numbers are definitely kind of troubling. He's clearly a talented player, so if it's not a coincidence then what is it about his presence that's been problematic? Perhaps uneven ice time distribution? Breaking up line combos? Or, not to speculate too much, but maybe a locker room chemistry problem?

 

[Lennu32]

Not really. Puck possession gives you the chance to be in control but it doesn't guarantee success in offense. You can still be a defense orientated team even if you hold the puck to yourself.

Team Finland

 

[melinko]

This season the Wild are 22-25 with Koivu in the lineup, 12-6 without. I'm not a "strip the C from Koivu" rabblerouser or anything, but those numbers are definitely kind of troubling. He's clearly a talented player, so if it's not a coincidence then what is it about his presence that's been problematic? Perhaps uneven ice time distribution? Breaking up line combos? Or, not to speculate too much, but maybe a locker room chemistry problem?

Its an Adrian Peterson type of situation.

Koivu's presence changes who Yeo plays in what situations, instead of putting players in the situations best for them(Granlund with open space on the PP) he defers everything to the vets.

You see it all the time, closing minutes of a game we blew. Better get Parise-Koivu-Pominville out there because we all know that works. It wouldn't matter if Granlund was the primary assist on every goal we scored in the game he would still put Koivu out there.

Big PP coming up, better make sure Suter gets the full 2 minutes because lord knows we couldn't do anything without his simple D => D pass that never results in anything because he isn't feeding Weber.
I honestly like Brodin on the point more than Suter, Brodin's shot gets through and he moves well. While Suter only shoots right into a mass of people after we have wasted 1:30min passing back and forth. The only thing hes weaker at than Suter is holding the zone.

 

[NHL1674]

Yeah, i'm sure Koivu is a big factor in why we've lost these last few games.

And that is HEAVY sarcasm.

We've got bigger problems. We've got players who are making silly, repeated mistakes, a PP that nobody wants to fix, and a coach who is stubborn when it comes to making certain decisions. There have been so many ways in which this team has screwed themselves over this past week. Having Koivu back isn't what's making them spin their wheels in the mud. Not even close. And I say that as someone who has been somewhat frustrated with him in the recent past.

 

[Bullrun]

Coyle has looked better lately... Still want to see more niño but it's starting to look like beast mode Coyle at times

 

[Gaps]

The team had bad puck possession before the break, and it was often outshot with a large margin. Still it won. They had a lot of luck and they were over performing. That never lasts forever.

Kuemper had a weaker game last night, Suter looks tired etc. None of that has anything to do with Koivu and you don't want to hear what I think of the idea that this is somehow his fault. Yeo needs to figure out what to do with the lines and keep them together on the PP too, at least for the most part. It helps everyone, especially players who have recently missed 2 months worth of games. I don't even care which way he goes with the lines as long as he stops mixing them up on the PP.