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The sense I am getting from a lot of the comments is it will be McGregor, Delisle, and Wycisk going in the top 3 provided there are no shenanigans. The common thread with them is they may not have the same ceiling as Murata and Warren but they play the game the right way right now….and with pace. Murata may still go top 3 but there just seems to be that inherent need for players that play the game the right way vs ones with a higher ceiling but need a lot more maturity in their game.
Is that the same sense you are getting right now?
They seem to be the most talked about. But it could go in Any direction. Problem with murata is he’s so inconsistent and his production has been pretty poor vs his pure talent. Warren is uber skilled but not sure he’s the best teammate and I find his game very selfish.
Chitaroni may be a top 5 underdog too
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I find Warren and Valentini to be similar. If you took Valentini 1 last year and he is the 5th or 6th best 08 last year how frustrated are you?
Pretty skilled players but…
Pretty skilled players but…
kind of tough to go from 4-5 guys in the mix for first to a clear cut #1 based off of 1 weekend. The bottom feeders of the OHL this year have been watching these kids all season so I don't think this weekend makes it or breaks it really.
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If it's pretty tight I think it can sway teams. Least I think anyway lol.
Tend to hear GMs all the time say "he ended really strong/he kept getting better/when it mattered the most he dominated"
I agree with OHL4Life. If McGregor was playing in Toronto like the other Ottawa kids that are highly rated, it would’ve been clear he’s the favorite earlier than now. Hes been dominant in this age group for years, and GMs seeing him in a true best on best scenario is the boost he needed rather than seeing him beat up on the same 4 HEO teams night after night. Delisle would’ve been a similar situation IMO if he didn’t leave for the Titans a few years ago.
Has he not been in tournaments with these teams all year long? silverstick, marlies tourney etc? I'm not saying that this weekend will do nothing for him, I'm just saying going from 5 guys to a clear cut #1 after what did he play 5 games seems a little steep.
Let me play devil advocate for OHL4Life, he's not stating McGregor is his number 1 "because" of this weekend, he said he's his number 1 after this weekend. Speaking to the comments above, McGregor starting this year with an illness, missed the Titans Tournament, and truly hit his stride near the mid point in the season and DOMINATED the HEO from that point on, averaging almost 3 points per game. This weekend, I think he showed alot of teams he is that 1C type of player, no questions asked.
Now let me talk about my top 5/6 this year post OHL CUP.
#1 Max Delisle - #1A Centre, versatile, tough, strong skater, excellent goal scorer, responsible transition play, loose cannon, match-up centre, physical, tough to play against, can do it all.
#2 Kaden McGregor - #1A Centre, dog on a bone, two-way, plays every shift like his last, highly skilled, great teammate, leader, tough to play against, character that you know will do whatever it takes.
#3 Camryn Warren - Centre but could be a better winger, dynamic, best skill in the draft, vision, speedy, hockey IQ, smaller but doesn't get hit often, potential of the charts, play driver.
#4 Charlie Murata - Could play centre/wing but probably a winger, best vision in the draft, loves the puck on his stick, great skater, could end up being the best point producer in OHL, leader, drives play, highly skilled.
#5 Jakkoo Wycisk - Sniper, 1A Centre, great active stick, playmaker, responsible defensively, smooth, Roobroeck effect (maybe he's over scouted, and has a lackadaisical approach to his game leaving you wanting more), but could be the best overall player in the age group.
#6 Brock Chitaroni - 1A Centre, explosive, creative, not scared of trying new things, unpredicatable, sniper, solid balance, play driver.
You can start to understand why the top of the draft is unpredictable. The variety, which is nice but it's tough to evaluate. This draft will be exciting, there's 5-6 players who could go number 1, there's 35-40 players who could go in the first round, and there's 50-75 players who could go in the 2nd round.
Should be a good one!
Now let me talk about my top 5/6 this year post OHL CUP.
#1 Max Delisle - #1A Centre, versatile, tough, strong skater, excellent goal scorer, responsible transition play, loose cannon, match-up centre, physical, tough to play against, can do it all.
#2 Kaden McGregor - #1A Centre, dog on a bone, two-way, plays every shift like his last, highly skilled, great teammate, leader, tough to play against, character that you know will do whatever it takes.
#3 Camryn Warren - Centre but could be a better winger, dynamic, best skill in the draft, vision, speedy, hockey IQ, smaller but doesn't get hit often, potential of the charts, play driver.
#4 Charlie Murata - Could play centre/wing but probably a winger, best vision in the draft, loves the puck on his stick, great skater, could end up being the best point producer in OHL, leader, drives play, highly skilled.
#5 Jakkoo Wycisk - Sniper, 1A Centre, great active stick, playmaker, responsible defensively, smooth, Roobroeck effect (maybe he's over scouted, and has a lackadaisical approach to his game leaving you wanting more), but could be the best overall player in the age group.
#6 Brock Chitaroni - 1A Centre, explosive, creative, not scared of trying new things, unpredicatable, sniper, solid balance, play driver.
You can start to understand why the top of the draft is unpredictable. The variety, which is nice but it's tough to evaluate. This draft will be exciting, there's 5-6 players who could go number 1, there's 35-40 players who could go in the first round, and there's 50-75 players who could go in the 2nd round.
Should be a good one!
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Appreciate the detailed scouting reports on the guys at the top! Really insightful for someone (me) that doesn't follow these guys all throughout the yr.
It’s based off of 6 weeks of McGregor being healthy. He had meningitis in August/sept and finally is back to normal. I had heard that he was lights out but now to see him against the other best skaters in the draft he’s obviously at another level. it was nice to see the kid at his best finally.
Does that make sense?
Sure. It's great that people got to see him at 100%. Just purely stating that scouts have been watching these 5 kids all year long and just like you said he was sick at the beginning of the season but for it to be this close I don't really see it going to a clear cut #1 over one weekend. it is too short a sample size for all we know one or two of the other kids in the mix could have been sick or Injured!
I think he's played his way into the top 20-25 100%. Could he go in the top 10, maybe, i'm not quite convinced, but if he did it wouldn't shock me and it wouldn't be a bad pick either. He has pro written all over him. There aren't a lot of players like him in this draft.
so then I’m wrong and your right, (it’s actually the agents and other scouts I talk too that is also wrong).
When I say I think he’s going 1, it’s my opinion but also the opinion of everyone I’ve talked too since the OHL cup. So, again, you can say I’m full of it, I don’t care, but it’s everyone I. The OHL community that I’ve talked to that thinks that way right now
Either way it’s not really something I’m all that worried about.
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It's not really a right or wrong scenario. My point simply is there is no way the peterborough petes have gone into the tournament thinking "it could be any one of the 4 or 5 players" to "oh ya its this guy clearly #1" over a 5 day span and their decision is made. Lots of due diligence of the entire year looking back and doing tons of video on all of these guys that according to everybody were air tight before the tournament started will go on over the next couple weeks.
I talked to an agent at the tournament who said Murata was going to go #1. The very next day I talked to another agent who thought Warren had the best tournament so far and looks like he might go. It's pretty obvious how tight things are.
Delisle and McGregor seem like the type of player that the Pete’s like to roster.
Warren is small and Murata isn’t very physical. Not saying the Pete’s won’t select Warren or Murata as they are extremely talented in skill. We have a skilled non physical shooter in Taylor, and a small skilled guy in Young already. Give me the Delisle or McGregor type which seem to be another Fitzgerald mould. Perfect for the Pete’s brand of hockey.
Delisle is my favourite personally.
Warren is small and Murata isn’t very physical. Not saying the Pete’s won’t select Warren or Murata as they are extremely talented in skill. We have a skilled non physical shooter in Taylor, and a small skilled guy in Young already. Give me the Delisle or McGregor type which seem to be another Fitzgerald mould. Perfect for the Pete’s brand of hockey.
Delisle is my favourite personally.
Personally I think you go for whoever you think is BPA over a certain type of player. I don't think you guys have nearly enough talent tbh. Some guys are leaving like bryant and melee and taylor shows up for 1 out of every 10 games. Young is a good little player but the more talent you can inject into that lineup the better.
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In fairness, BPA is usually skewed toward the model of player you build your team around. In this example, if Delisle is the type of player they build their team around, he will naturally be the BPA on their list. Another team will have a different BPA list that could be more skewed toward high skill/skater type players. If the five players are super close, BPA will be strictly determined by the attributes the teams tends to prefer. Preferences vary.
