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I'm expecting the 67's to possibly trade at least one of their two seconds to another year as we have very little space on the roster. That way they can also use them as ammo at next years' trade deadline. If they use them this year those guys are likely playing in tier 2.
I wonder what this call was like. Who even sits in their office and says "hmm, I should give ol' Dale a call and propose a swap of 13th rounders".
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Have to give the OHL credit. They have posted on media notes the the trade deadline is open until 3pm Thursday. It has been a long time pet peeve of mine that they don't keep their fans informed of trade deadlines and such. Hopefully they have heard us whine and will continue with this policy/ posting of the dates 
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I believe they usually put a request out for what they want to do and allow a team to respond. It may not even be a request for a 13th round pick either. I doubt this was two GM’s calling each other.
Most of the time these sorts of requests go through based on what requirements are needed to fill training camp rosters etc. It could also be the other way around where a team has too many bodies for affiliate players and want to offset a pick this year and push it to next year so as to not waste a pick that they cannot use to fill an affiliate spot.
Basically roster management.
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Very good mock draft! I would just make one observation: I think they underestimate Benjamin Cormier a lot. I find it difficult to leave him out of the top 10. And if they do, whoever catches him is definitely a steal.
Forgive me, I know almost nothing about the USHL. How can Chicago just sign him? Why doesn’t he have to go through the draft? Are Canadians not subject to the draft?
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There are two main ways to sign with a club in the USHL: get drafted OR sign a tender agreement.
The draft system is straightforward enough,though the league does have TWO drafts: the Phase I draft (sometimes called the “Futures” draft) is more or less like the various priority selection drafts in the CHL. The Phase II draft is for players of any age and is roughly equivalent to the U18 draft in the OHL.
The tender process is also fairly straightforward: teams can pre-sign a maximum of 2 draft eligible players. If a team uses one, they lose a 1st round draft pick. If they use two, they lose both a 1st and 2nd round draft choice in the phase I league draft.
Canadians are eligible, just as Americans are eligible for CHL drafts.
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In USHL you can sign a Canadian to a "tender" but you forfeit your 1st round pick. So you have to be pretty sure he's coming. Although last year USHL signed Carson Rehkopf to a tender than he went to KIT right away, so that team got screwed and wasted their 1st rounder pick on a guy who didn't come. But normally you have verbal agreement and he's going if you're signing him to a tender
Its usually done to allow for the scouts to have as many picks possible in present year.
Or to use as a late longshot or favour.
Hage's visit to Wisconsin and then signing a tender agreement with Chicago Steel sure adds a twist to the draft.
Is there an OHL team that Hage would actually be happy to go to or is he seriously not interested in the OHL?
I don't know this kid or his situation but some team may take a gamble.
Is there an OHL team that Hage would actually be happy to go to or is he seriously not interested in the OHL?
I don't know this kid or his situation but some team may take a gamble.
More teams need to do what Saginaw did with Fantilli and Perfetti. Take them and give them the option and if they dont report trade them and get the extra 1st the next season. I dont think a team yet has actually lost doing so. Worst case scenario you get a comp pick plus the picks you get in a trade for their rights. You are guaranteed more assets than you spent to draft them if they dont report. Especially where next years draft is hailed as being better
This may be a crazy idea, but what if the Petes draft Hage at #6 then trade him to another team (hmm.....London?) for a bunch of future picks + they would receive the #7 pick in the 2023 draft (to go along with their other 1st round pick....#20
). The future picks could then be used at the deadline to get players they need to go for a championship.
). The future picks could then be used at the deadline to get players they need to go for a championship.
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Sarnia lost doing that. Weiss obviously told them he was strongly considering coming, so they didn't trade the rights. He didn't come, they wasted a 1st and got nothing.
Barrie lost doing that. They traded Tortora's rights and got a comp 1st the next year. They drafted Jack McBain with that pick and he didn't come. Wasted a 1st (technically 2 of them)
I wouldn't say it's as cut and dry as you're putting it. You leave yourself open to the player still not having his mind made up when you need to make a decision (Sarnia with Weiss) and then you have to 100% be sure the guy is coming with the comp pick (BAR with McBain)
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That would only work if Hage comes to the OHL right away for year 1. Otherwise you wouldn't get any of those picks as they'd all be conditional on him coming. Example is OTT drafting Moldenhauer and trading his rights to SAR for conditional picks. OTT had access to 0 of those picks this year because Moldenhauer didn't come. Sarnia also had access to 0 of those picks this year because they were tied up. So you need to find a team who's willing to ice their picks and make them unusable for a year or two.This may be a crazy idea, but what if the Petes draft Hage at #6 then trade him to another team (hmm.....London?) for a bunch of future picks + they would receive the #7 pick in the 2023 draft (to go along with their other 1st round pick....#20
And if Hage is willing to come year 1, surely there are teams he'd be wiling to go to and they already know that.
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If Saginaw is taking Misa and no ones taken a chance on him by their second first, I think they should take a chance on Hage. Having an exceptional player to play with would certainly be a recruiting tool.
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For sure. The other side of that argument would be you're getting Misa, you can't waste the opportunity to put a great linemate with him and if you take Hage and he doesn't come (which it sounds like he's not) then you did that. Pros and cons for both sides
And that would be the Fantilli conditional so you can't trade that player and get another one. You need to take someone that will come with that pick or you waste it, like Barrie did with McBain
I guess I specifically mention in my post about either recruiting the player that first year or trading his rights and getting the first. If a GM blows it and doesnt trade the player for a comp pick obviously that's a botch on thier end. Same as drafting a player with a comp 1st that isnt guaranteed to sign. One again a botch by the gm.
The only way to stop players from falling to preferred clubs is to draft them and trade their rights. Make the preferred destination pay with picks and sit and get them later in the draft.
Is that even relevant for Hage? Who knows kids are more than welcome to go the NCAA route and NIL money is only going to make it more appealing. Not to mention Chicago is practically a super team.
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