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For sure. The other side of that argument would be you're getting Misa, you can't waste the opportunity to put a great linemate with him and if you take Hage and he doesn't come (which it sounds like he's not) then you did that. Pros and cons for both sides

And that would be the Fantilli conditional so you can't trade that player and get another one. You need to take someone that will come with that pick or you waste it, like Barrie did with McBain
True but Saginaw has virtually everyone back next season so they can swing on the second first if they want with minimal consequences. At that point if he’s there take him and try to recruit him. They’re basically picking in the second round at that point anyway.
 
I know you cannot use a COMP Pick to draft another player that doesn’t report BUT isn’t there a rule that limits the intervals between being able to declare players defected? Ottawa, for example, declared Moldenhauer defected so they get the 21st pick in this draft. Fine. They cannot declare the player they pick in this draft with that pick defected. Fine. But, if they draft a player 7th overall that doesn’t report, can they declare the player defected? I didn’t think they could do it back to back.

Anyone know the exact rule in this regard?
 
This may be a decent year for the 67’s to draft a defected player with the 7th pick if they don’t get one they really want. They have so many returning players. They may benefit more from the 8th pick next year in a deeper draft anyway.
I agree OMG but I'm hoping the Petes do that with the #6 pick for all the same reasons you mentioned :)
 
I know you cannot use a COMP Pick to draft another player that doesn’t report BUT isn’t there a rule that limits the intervals between being able to declare players defected? Ottawa, for example, declared Moldenhauer defected so they get the 21st pick in this draft. Fine. They cannot declare the player they pick in this draft with that pick defected. Fine. But, if they draft a player 7th overall that doesn’t report, can they declare the player defected? I didn’t think they could do it back to back.

Anyone know the exact rule in this regard?
Its the OHL, the fans don't know any rule unless it's because they've seen it happen lol. Transparency and the OHL don't exactly go hand in hand
 
Oshawa/Ottawa/Saginaw can't get COMP picks in back to back years.

I dont think you get comp 1st rounders 2 years and a row. I believe if your first doesnt report the 2nd year the comp pick becomes a 2nd round pick although i don't think this has ever been done.

Of course you cant get a comp pick for a player picked with a comp pick as well.
 
Have to give the OHL credit. They have posted on media notes the the trade deadline is open until 3pm Thursday. It has been a long time pet peeve of mine that they don't keep their fans informed of trade deadlines and such. Hopefully they have heard us whine and will continue with this policy/ posting of the dates 😊
It is frustrating how much information is not available........although not likely, I'm hoping at some point they publish the specific conditions on conditional draft picks included in trades.
It's especially hard this time of the year with the draft approaching and more eyes on the OHL draft pick database trying to make sense of of things (shout out to Peter Kneulman and ScoresFromCentre for all their work on creating and updating the database).
 
This may be a crazy idea, but what if the Petes draft Hage at #6 then trade him to another team (hmm.....London?) for a bunch of future picks + they would receive the #7 pick in the 2023 draft (to go along with their other 1st round pick....#20:D). The future picks could then be used at the deadline to get players they need to go for a championship.
they are seriously considering it
 
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Not the best plan… most teams ask for the latest drafts first rounder via trade. If you don’t have one to offer up most teams will likely look elsewhere
Yes, but the Petes got Akil Thomas for 2nd year 2nd rounder Cam Butler and picks…..so it’s doable, especially with all of the depth/youth the Petes have
 
Sag-Misa
Erie-Spence
Sudbury- Villeneuve
Niagara- Dickinson
Sarnia- Martone
Petes- Van Volsen/Hage
Ott-Mews
Osh- Seneke/Hage
Kitch- Danford
Barrie- Testa
Owen Sound- Boudouin
Guelph- Van Volsen/Seneke
Missy- Walton
Osh- Marrelli/Karmiris
Lon- Karmiris
Soo- He/Brown
Kingston- Frasca
Flint- Marrelli/Parekh
Sag- Cormier
NB- Parekh/Marelli
Ott- Luchanko
Windsor- Pitre/Procysyn
Hamilton- Christofaro
 
Sag-Misa
Erie-Spence
Sudbury- Villeneuve
Niagara- Dickinson
Sarnia- Martone
Petes- Van Volsen/Hage
Ott-Mews
Osh- Seneke/Hage
Kitch- Danford
Barrie- Testa
Owen Sound- Boudouin
Guelph- Van Volsen/Seneke
Missy- Walton
Osh- Marrelli/Karmiris
Lon- Karmiris
Soo- He/Brown
Kingston- Frasca
Flint- Marrelli/Parekh
Sag- Cormier
NB- Parekh/Marelli
Ott- Luchanko
Windsor- Pitre/Procysyn
Hamilton- Christofaro
Why would the Petes risk taking Hage? He could potentially enjoy his time in Chicago and just stay that route for his NHL draft year and then you’re not even going to be able to trade him for compensation.
 
If Petes believe they have enough fwds and dmen coming back, and they can compete for playoff spot next year, then they can use Hage to lure the team out of the weeds and trade him for a king's ransom and be set for the year after.

Unfortunately, that makes too much logical sense for the Petes.:popcorn:
 
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I dont think you get comp 1st rounders 2 years and a row. I believe if your first doesnt report the 2nd year the comp pick becomes a 2nd round pick although i don't think this has ever been done.

Of course you cant get a comp pick for a player picked with a comp pick as well.
1st time around you get a 1st round back if you fail to get the kid to report which I can't imagine why they wouldn't the following season it drops to a 2nd and failing that 3rd etc. The lowest you will get back will be a 4th round pick but like I said you'd have to have a GM who was insane to pull that stunt 3 years in a row.
 
Not the best plan… most teams ask for the latest drafts first rounder via trade. If you don’t have one to offer up most teams will likely look elsewhere
not sure its happening, just saying they are considering it. i think van volsen is an option too
 
Sag-Misa
Erie-Spence
Sudbury- Villeneuve
Niagara- Dickinson
Sarnia- Martone
Petes- Van Volsen/Hage
Ott-Mews
Osh- Seneke/Hage
Kitch- Danford
Barrie- Testa
Owen Sound- Boudouin
Guelph- Van Volsen/Seneke
Missy- Walton
Osh- Marrelli/Karmiris
Lon- Karmiris
Soo- He/Brown
Kingston- Frasca
Flint- Marrelli/Parekh
Sag- Cormier
NB- Parekh/Marelli
Ott- Luchanko
Windsor- Pitre/Procysyn
Hamilton- Christofaro

i think top 10 is bang on. sennecke will go to oshawa, mews to ottawa.
 
If Petes believe they have enough fwds and dmen coming back, and they can compete for playoff spot next year, then they can use Hage to lure the team out of the weeds and trade him for a king's ransom and be set for the year after.

Unfortunately, that makes too much logical sense for the Petes.:popcorn:
If the Petes know that Hage wants to go to a particular team (that rhymes with Flundon Snights) and would go to that team this upcoming year instead of the USHL, then draft him and trade him to the Snights.

The Snights are not as dominant this season and IMO would be interested in acquiring Hage plus their pick at #15.
At worst the Petes get two 1st round picks next year (a draft that is higher quality by all accounts). They should keep the #33 overall 2nd rd pick from this year if they plan on taking a risk with the Hage pick.

***This didn't age well.......Petes trade #33 overall BAR 2nd rd pick to Flint for HAM 2nd 2024 and FLT 3rd 2023
 
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