News: 2025 RFA offer sheet compensation thresholds revealed

[Craig Ludwig]

I just don't get the hype for Bourque, as a Habs fan I really hope they don't throw a ton of money at him because of his French Canadian heritage. He's small, already 23 years old, had one good year in the AHL. He was given every opportunity to have a great regular season in Dallas, yet faltered, and has not sniffed a spot in the lineup for the playoffs. No thanks.

Habs need size, and Knies would definitely fit the bill. Send that offer to Knies, Mr. Hughes!!!

 

[Canovin]

I just don't get the hype for Bourque, as a Habs fan I really hope they don't throw a ton of money at him because of his French Canadian heritage. He's small, already 23 years old, had one good year in the AHL. He was given every opportunity to have a great regular season in Dallas, yet faltered, and has not sniffed a spot in the lineup for the playoffs. No thanks.

Habs need size, and Knies would definitely fit the bill. Send that offer to Knies, Mr. Hughes!!!

4.5M x 2 year for Mavrik Bourque would be a good move from the Habs. At worst you get a NHLer down the road or you walk away from him in 2 years.

Best case scenario, Habs get a low end #1C for a 2nd round pick.

 

[Draiskull]

How do the oilers have 10+M in cap space?

Factoring in their existing contracts, if they run a 20 man roster and fill out the 3 roster spots from federic/brown/perry with league minimum 775k players, that leaves 9.3M according to cap wages.

This would include sending Josh brown/troy stetcher to the minors.

Unless I missed something, the oilers likely match, but this would put them 60k over the cap. It’s not advised to run a 20 man roster, so I’d imagine the oilers would be forced to pay to dump arvidsson or Kane if this were to happen.

Oilers have 12 Fs signed already for next year at 54.775M. They can promote Savoie, Philp or even Sam OReilly for less than a million each and ship out Janmark, Tomasek, Max Jones who all make more then the prospects to save additional cap.

7Dmen for 24.272
Goalies at 3.6M
deadcap @ 2.3M

so they are at 85M with a 21 man roster.

Cap is supposedly 95.5M next year

source = puckpedia

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

No one in their right mind would match $11.7M for Dobson, he's good but not even close to that good.

I mean it's really all about if you can weather the storm for two years.

Is he worth $11.7M now? Hell no.

In 27-28 when $11.7M is barely over 10% of the cap? Yeah, he's probably worth it.

 

[Scotianhab]

Only guy that interests me is Vilardi but I imagine the Jets match. We have Price on LTIR but he’s only owed 2m in real money with a 10.5m cap hit. That could be valuable to a low cap franchise.

 

[Canuck Luck]

Oilers have 12 Fs signed already for next year at 54.775M. They can promote Savoie, Philp or even Sam OReilly for less than a million each and ship out Janmark, Tomasek, Max Jones who all make more then the prospects to save additional cap.

7Dmen for 24.272
Goalies at 3.6M
deadcap @ 2.3M

so they are at 85M with a 21 man roster.

Cap is supposedly 95.5M next year

source = puckpedia

So they don’t have 10+M because you have to trade a player they current have on their roster. Also according to puckpedia, the cap penalty is 2.6M next season for Campbell.

I didn’t even include tomasek in my original projection even though I forgot the oilers signed him at 1.2M meaning he’s very likely to start in the NHL.

 

[weaponomega]

Who's the asshole to throw 5 x $9.35M at Knies?

Me

 

[jackjohnson]

OFFER SHEET AAV	COMPENSATION
$1,544,424 or less	None
Over $1,544,424 to $2,340,037	Third-round pick
Over $2,340,037 to $4,680,076	Second-round pick
Over $4,680,076 to $7,020,113	First- and third-round picks
Over $7,020,113 to $9,360,153	First-, second-, and third-round picks
Over $9,360,153 to $11,700,192	Two firsts, one second and one third
Over $11,700,192	Four first-round picks

All draft picks must be available in the next immediate draft, unless multiple picks are owed in the same round, then the team can spread the number of picks over one extra year (for example, two first-round picks would need to be available within the next three years, while four first-round picks would need to be available within the next five years)

9.36 million per year for Knies sounds about right. If am Knies, i would be waiting for the best offer to cash in

 

[jackjohnson]

Who's the asshole to throw 5 x $9.35M at Knies?

Canucks

 

[jackjohnson]

Oilers let Jeff Skinner walk and trade Arvidsson. And if Frederic, Brown, Perry, Bouchard, Klingberg re-signs at those $$

RNH(5.125)-McDavid(12.5)-Hyman(5.5)
Kane(5.125)-Drai(14)-Savoie(.9)
Frederic(2.5)-Henrique(3)-Brown(2.5)
Janmark(1.45)-Samanski(1)-Perry(.8)
Hutson(.9)

Ekholm(6)-Bouchard(9.5)
Walman(3.4)-Klingberg(2.5)
Nurse(9.25)-Kulak(2.75)
Stecher(.8)

Stuart(2.6)
Pickard(1)
Deadcap(2.3)

95.4M

Why would walman sign at 3.4?? He is a 5 mil dman at minimum. Klingberg is a 3.5 mil dman at minimum. The rising cap will make sure those guys will make higher than what they made this season.

 

[Canovin]

Why would walman sign at 3.4?? He is a 5 mil dman at minimum. Klingberg is a 3.5 mil dman at minimum. The rising cap will make sure those guys will make higher than what they made this season.

The roster is for 2025-26. Walman is signed for another year. When he needs a new deal he's likely getting 6M. That's in 2026-27 when the cap is 104M

I'm not sure what Klingberg will re-sign for. Maybe 2.5M. Maybe 3.5M

 

[Jared Dunn]

**crickets**
The man isnt worth that much to any club.

Could be the next Bunting or the next Hyman.

Insane to suggest Bunting as a possibility lol the kid is so good

 

[Jared Dunn]

I wonder if Ottawa will even qualify him, he may just end up a UFA

Isn't his QO like 1.5ish? Feel it would be silly not to

 

[Jared Dunn]

I'll go 2x9.25 for Knies from Montreal. I think Leafs will prioritize signing him over anyone though honestly

 

[jackjohnson]

The roster is for 2025-26. Walman is signed for another year. When he needs a new deal he's likely getting 6M. That's in 2026-27 when the cap is 104M

I'm not sure what Klingberg will re-sign for. Maybe 2.5M. Maybe 3.5M

I see, so walman has one more year. In that case it will be 6 million. Kilingberg is definitely 3.5 mil as a UFA imo not less than that. He is a very serviceable top 4 and he could get 3.5 mil very easily if not more.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I'll go 2x9.25 for Knies from Montreal. I think Leafs will prioritize signing him over anyone though honestly

If you want knies go with 1x11.7M it will be hard for the Leafs to match that.

 

[bobbyb2009]

I'll go 2x9.25 for Knies from Montreal. I think Leafs will prioritize signing him over anyone though honestly

So what do you think does a Maple Leafs contract for him looks like?

 

[Craig Ludwig]

4.5M x 2 year for Mavrik Bourque would be a good move from the Habs. At worst you get a NHLer down the road or you walk away from him in 2 years.

Best case scenario, Habs get a low end #1C for a 2nd round pick.

Good point, but I cannot see Bourque as a low end #1C, I can see him maybe as another Alex Newhook and if so I'm not interested TBH.

 

[Craig Ludwig]

If you want knies go with 1x11.7M it will be hard for the Leafs to match that.

After last night, I really see Marner walking and Tavares getting a lot less, so there will be plenty available for Knies.

 

[Jared Dunn]

So what do you think does a Maple Leafs contract for him looks like?

Probably like 6 or 7 years at 8.5

 

[bobbyb2009]

Probably like 6 or 7 years at 8.5

Wow. I didn't know he had earned that kind of a deal. Very good for him. Thanks

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I see, so walman has one more year. In that case it will be 6 million. Kilingberg is definitely 3.5 mil as a UFA imo not less than that. He is a very serviceable top 4 and he could get 3.5 mil very easily if not more.

If Klingberg prices himself out, it's really not a huge deal. Just brings us back to what we started the year with:

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Stecher
Kulak-Emberson
Dineen/Kemp/other 7D


not every issue needs to be addressed for puck drop in October.

 

[FiveTacos]

If you want knies go with 1x11.7M it will be hard for the Leafs to match that.

Why would he sign a 1 year deal? He doesn't have huge career earnings to fall back on if he gets hurt.

And for that matter, why would a team do that, when all that's gonna happen is the QO will start at that number next year anyway? So unless you want to turn him into a rental, you're essentially locking yourself into that AAV anyway, so you might as well offer it for 5+ years as it is.

If the idea is you want to pry him away with one expensive year and then convince him to take a pay cut, couldn't he just sign a front loaded deal with his current team that does the same thing?

This idea of a 1 year deal just doesn't make sense.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Why would he sign a 1 year deal? He doesn't have huge career earnings to fall back on if he gets hurt.

And for that matter, why would a team do that, when all that's gonna happen is the QO will start at that number next year anyway? So unless you want to turn him into a rental, you're essentially locking yourself into that AAV anyway, so you might as well offer it for 5+ years as it is.

If the idea is you want to pry him away with one expensive year and then convince him to take a pay cut, couldn't he just sign a front loaded deal with his current team that does the same thing?

This idea of a 1 year deal just doesn't make sense.

The 1 year deal is a way to get him out. See Kotkaniemi offer sheet.
You also promise him a 8 years extention on january 1st. So essentially it's a way to get him for 9 years. So let's say 1 year at 11.7 and with an following extension of 8 years for 80M.
You would get him for 9 years at 91.7.

 

[Chose]

+, even if they end up matching, it would be a lot of fun to offer sheet a Leaf

EDIT: I'm obviously trolling, plan A of the Habs should be to throw 10MAAV worth of deferred money to Bennett ! And offer sheets being also signed july 1st handcoffes you for the 1st week of the UFAs...