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GDT: #20 - 11/17/17 | RANGERS @ blue jackets | 7:00 - MSG PLUS, NHLN

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Fitzy Duke of NY said:
Pretty sure that the advanced stat folks have some metric of shot quality and expected goals scored that shows NYR give up an unusually high frequency of high=percentage shots, and so Lundqvist has actually still been outperforming the league average even during these last two years.

I do think that the best real critique one can make of Hank is the "Clemmensson effect," which is that most backups that we have had have also put up quite good/similar numbers in his absence, similar to Brodeur for years in New Jersey. But that doesn't take into consideration quality of opposition for selected games.
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If I am not misstaken, coming into last season he was at the top of the advanced stats. I think @nevesis has the numbers.
 
Fitzy Duke of NY said:
Remember when Torts remarked (accurately) that Hagelin sucks on the powerplay and everyone freaked out? Well, Vesey and Hayes suck on the powerplay. It's time to try someone else. Hell, give Grabner a shot.
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Has Hayes gotten pp time this season? I don't recall seeing him on pp but I'm not sure
 
Crease said:
The simpler the analysis the better. Lundqvist is better than his current numbers but not as good as he used to be.
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Can’t really blame all those numbers on him with how the D has been this season. Def not as good as he was, but he still is solid enough to make this team win.
 
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ZiGOODejad said:
Has Hayes gotten pp time this season? I don't recall seeing him on pp but I'm not sure
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According to hockey-reference, his PP avg ice-time for the season is 19 secs (for comparison, Vesey's is 54 sec) so I'd say no. The only forwards with a shorter average are Fast, Grabner and Nieves
 
haveandare said:
If CBJ isn't stupid, which they probably aren't, they're going to be attacking the hell out of the low slot. Chicago did it in the third and the Rangers had less than no answer. Hope AV made a point of this but lol who are we kidding, he'd rather everyone fly the zone than defend their net.

Hanks play is hard to gauge, part of the reason his numbers are terrible is due to what I mentioned above. For example, AA had 3 goals last game on chances that no competent d should ever let happen, let alone happen 3 times in a few minutes. Yes, he let in a softie, but everyone lets in softies sometimes. The question is how many of his overall goals against can reasonably be attributed to pathetic coverage in front of his net and how many are his own technical or mental mistakes. Obviously he's not what he was 3 years ago, but I'm not sure he's as bad as his numbers either.
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The low slot has been open for 4 years now since our defense chase guys behind the net. Man to man defense basically leaves the front open if you play the puck behind the net and then back out in front. For some reason it takes teams a little longer than others to realize this against us. I've always thought if the other team starts criss-crossing down low they will have guys open.

I agree on Hank. I've found it so hard to judge our defense or Hank with the style we play, man to man defense is too hard in this day of age of speed. Ironic enough this same coach preaches speed so he should know that speed beats man to man.
 
I wish we had AV for the first half of Lundqvist's career and Torts for the second half. Couldn't have botched that any worse.
 
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Siddi said:
If I am not misstaken, coming into last season he was at the top of the advanced stats. I think @nevesis has the numbers.
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That was 15-16. Hank was the best at goals saved above average by a ridiculous amount. Which kind of makes sense because he posted like a .954 the first six weeks while the Rangers defense had one of the worst six week stretches an NHL team has ever had. It was probably the hottest streak of Hank's career.

In 16-17, he wasn't particularly great by any measure, but not terrible either. He was just a goaltender.
 
Machinehead said:
That was 15-16. Hank was the best at goals saved above average by a ridiculous amount. Which kind of makes sense because he posted like a .954 the first six weeks while the Rangers defense had one of the worst six week stretches an NHL team has ever had. It was probably the hottest streak of Hank's career.

In 16-17, he wasn't particularly great by any measure, but not terrible either. He was just a goaltender.
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Thank you, that is what I was looking for.
 
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Bob Richards said:
I don't know why this made me laugh really hard. I guess because I'd imagine it like a test and instead of leaving the answer blank the Rangers just let out a screech and dove head first out the 2nd story window.
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Lol that’s pretty much what they did. The hockey equivalent of that.
 
Crease said:
Like a phoenix, Smith will rise from the ashes of despair and soar.

Maybe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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And the burn out in his own brilliance?

Ha! I think not sir.

He chrashed and burned as if he won the draw straw to take the late night winter flight.

I’m looking forward to many salty Torts camera stares tonight.
 
IDK why but i read Rangers take on artemi Panarin on the bottom ticker on NHLN and 100% thought I missed a trade for a second lol
 
Crease said:
The simpler the analysis the better. Lundqvist is better than his current numbers but not as good as he used to be.
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These metrics also tend to not take into account "backbreaking" goals. The timing and quality of goals that go in have a real psychological effect and Hank has had multiple howlers already this year.
 
I want to see another gorgeous assist from Kreider, more ice time for KZB, better entry and execution on the PP and CLEAR THE SLOT in front of Hank.

Hopefully back to a true .500 before I get to see them live on Sunday.
 
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I’d actually argue that Hayes has improved to a reliable two-way 2C thus far. He’s actually been playing some strong defensive hockey, but just hasn’t posted the offense to back it up
 
Time for a Dubinsky hat trick? Where's Tim Erixon at these days?

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