GDT: 2 PENALTY MINUTES TO HURRICANE MILTON FOR DELAY OF THE GAME

[Surrounded By Ahos]

If you told me before the game the canes would play poorly, vasi would look like vasi, the officiating would be as expected against tampa (jarvis' "slash" might just be the dumbest call we see this year), and tampa's stars / power play would show up and play really well i would not have expected a 2-1 game until we pulled the goalie.

Maybe they do suck and will never put it together and play a decent game, but i'm not writing off the season quite yet.

At least the freddie haters got to enjoy being "right" - i love pk and want him to be the 1a, but with the effort from the team in front last night i don't think it would have made a bit of difference except to frustrate the young guy.

Oh well, time to mentally reset so i can be truly disappointed by nc state football tonight.

Agreed with all this here, but buddy, if you’re still allowing yourself to be disappointed by Wolfpack football, that’s on you for having any sort of positive expectations.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I mean yeah sucks to not score more than 1 but Vasi was incredible. Only allowed 2 goals both PP and the second very soft on Freddie. I don’t read into the first handful of games at all. After like 10 games last year weren’t we last in goals allowed per game or something insane. Still confident this is a playoff team easily. Maybe not a top tier contender like the last several years but a playoff team for sure.

 

[Stickpucker]

Too soon. Just stfu and

#SmallPenisDreams. Personally I happen to have quite a large one and it is a grower.

This is the kind of hard hitting analysis I come to the boards for.

I bet it's so large you need to put a sock on it to keep it warm during the winter.

 

[hblueridgegal]

Why'd the coach switch up the lines in lieu of the ones that had been practicing together for a while leading up to the game? He bears some of the responsibility for the results from it.

As mentioned over the summer break, this kind of stuff happens less on the team's that are winning the cup and progressing in the playoffs.

 

[AD Skinner]

This is the kind of hard hitting analysis I come to the boards for.

I bet it's so large you need to put a sock on it to keep it warm during the winter.

I don’t have to I just like to

 

[Borsig]

I really am so tired of andersen's soft game costing shit. Start PK for god sake. You dont have to cam ward him and we have to learn to score (and play on the PP) but comeon.

 

[To Be Determined]

Agreed with all this here, but buddy, if you’re still allowing yourself to be disappointed by Wolfpack football, that’s n you for having any sort of positive expectations.

When it comes to nc state athletics, i've honed my craft over the decades since childhood. I've struck the perfect balance of always expecting to lose, while still being disappointed when it happens. That way i'm almost never happy, as should be expected for a state fan.

 

[bleedgreen]

It’s the first game so I’m pretty meh about the loss. I thought Freddie was fine, we only scored one and we aren’t the defensive team we were so I expect more quality chances to go in.

Positives

I liked Ghost and Carrier the most out of the new guys. Both did exactly the things they are good at and seem comfortable/effective right out of the gate. I liked Robinson and the fourth line more than I typically like our fourth line though I wouldn’t say they had chemistry yet. Robinson looked good in the moments he had but with limited minutes and chemistry there’s a lot more to be seen. He drew a penalty off hard work which is what you ask from that role. Walker looked fine but I think can be more of an impact. JR was pretty meh and fit in with Jstaal’s comments about how the top six played. Too fancy without enough to show for it. I noticed JR staying in the middle instead of beating guys to the pucks on the boards or fighting for it.

Of the vets I thought Chat and Burns were very involved and played well. Third line was our best obviously. I liked Svech driving the net, we need that out of him. KK looked a touch quicker but had the same results.

I don’t get the Freddie hate. Two unstoppable pp goals from guys that make tough plays look casual all the time. I wouldn’t have expected better out of Koochie.

ps….during the tragedy I meant to post about how Robinson was one of JG’s pallbearers, I’m glad they mentioned how he grew up with him from an early age. That was a good story about how ER would spend days crashing at their house.

 

[NotOpie]

Was at the game last night and expected a bit more from the boys....my sense is that they were about 2 steps off last night. You could see what they were trying to do and guys would get to the right spots at the right time, but the puck would either be late or errant. I thought the 3 best players last night were Carrier, Kotkaniemi (who, in my mind played very well), and Drury. Roslovic looked okay, but he seemed to not have a clear idea as to what his mission was.

Blake looked like the rookie he is, but seemed to get his legs under him in the 3rd. The late hooking call was ticky tacky as shit.

But the real disappointment of the night was Svech. The puck died on his stick except for one 30 second stint (I believe it was in the 3rd). He missed what appeared to be a wide open net and was out of sync no matter who his linemates were.

My sense is Rod needs to give his lines a few games before he breaks them up. Svech and Aho seems to always go through these stretches of looking out of kilter. We need another left shot for the top 2 lines.

Well, those were my thoughts after a disappointing evening of hockey.

I don’t get the Freddie hate. Two unstoppable pp goals from guys that make tough plays look casual all the time. I wouldn’t have expected better out of Koochie.

The second power play goal was an unscreened shot that wasn't particularly "rocketed" and was at glove level. I would have wanted any goal to have gotten that one.

 

[bleedgreen]

Was at the game last night and expected a bit more from the boys....my sense is that they were about 2 steps off last night. You could see what they were trying to do and guys would get to the right spots at the right time, but the puck would either be late or errant. I thought the 3 best players last night were Carrier, Kotkaniemi (who, in my mind played very well), and Drury. Roslovic looked okay, but he seemed to not have a clear idea as to what his mission was.

Blake looked like the rookie he is, but seemed to get his legs under him in the 3rd. The late hooking call was ticky tacky as shit.

But the real disappointment of the night was Svech. The puck died on his stick except for one 30 second stint (I believe it was in the 3rd). He missed what appeared to be a wide open net and was out of sync no matter who his linemates were.

My sense is Rod needs to give his lines a few games before he breaks them up. Svech and Aho seems to always go through these stretches of looking out of kilter. We need another left shot for the top 2 lines.

Well, those were my thoughts after a disappointing evening of hockey.


The second power play goal was an unscreened shot that wasn't particularly "rocketed" and was at glove level. I would have wanted any goal to have gotten that one.

I’m gonna disagree on the goal. I think it was lower than glove level, well placed and you’re under rating the shot of one of the better scorers in NHL history. I think that goes in on just about any goalie in the league and not just on the shot but the quick set up/release. Freddie sucked last year but he also had four months off? He never got in a groove and he’s for sure nearing his finish line in the league. He’s become a scape goat though. Chatfield was responsible for the goal that ended our season - not Freddie though he could’ve been better. Not having Pesce on the goal line for that goal and number of others was a huge part of us losing, I think we’ll feel the loss Pesce defensively more than anyone else including Skjei.

There’s certain things where you struggle to blame the goalie. They had good chances all game and the only ones he let in were two pp goals and I don’t think there was anything he could do about either. It’s a 2-1 game. Losing a game where we blame the goalie when we only score one does not add up for me.

Again, it’s the first game and hardly anything to base the season on. I’m looking forward to seeing better chemistry as we’re going.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

While clearly the canes weren’t in mid-season form last night, it’s comforting to see that many posters are already in mid-season form.

 

[Chrispy]

I feel like Rod stuck with his initial plan in goal after they postponed the game in Tampa.

Playing Andersen at home and Kochetkov in Tampa makes sense as an opening pair. When the game in Tampa was postponed he stuck with the plan to start Andersen in Raleigh.

I’m not worried about it long term; Kochetkov will get plenty of opportunities. And Andersen will be needed this season.

But this team needs to score. Even if it’s a questionable second goal they need to be able to win the game if they can hold Tampa to 2 goals.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Personally I happen to have quite a large one and it is a grower.

Pics or GTFO

Or maybe just GTFO

Either way

 

[bleedgreen]

Pics or GTFO

Or maybe just GTFO

Either way

If we start with dikpiks around here hf may officially jump my shark.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Morning after thoughts. One game, so no "panic" yet:

Positives
-- As I had hoped, the 3rd line are going to be a challenge for the competition. That is a "heavy" line of puck busters.

-- Jarvy looked quicker and had a even better jump in his game than LY (although his PK positioning was bad on the Kuckerov goal)

-- Defensive minutes was evenly spread out (x PP time for Ghost). That should bode well as the season ages.

Negatives
-- Tampa has a big team and we appeared very small against them.

-- Offseason defensive worries showed a little as our 2nd and 3rd pairs were often boxed in by the more physical/big Tampa team and we couldn't move them away from the front of the net all game.

-- Noticeable was the lack of defending size on the PK. Skeji-Pesce are big guys and their length often made cross ice passes difficult, particularly on the kill. That won't be the case this year as Orlov-Chatty and Ghost-Walker don't have length and it shows.

-- It sure seemed that Roscovic (one game of course) is a poor man's Necas and likes to stay on the outside/he shys away from the physical game. In open space, he flys but games against teams such as Tampa, Florida, Boston, etc. won't allow the space since they play much more physical.

-- Necas was the frustrating Necas versus the guy that showed flashes of a different/more physical game in the playoffs

-- PK Giving up 2 goals, meh. I'm sure they will correct it the next time they play Tampa but...
With Stamkos off the roster, you don't have to worry about his one-timer on the opposite side of Kucherov. Thus, it might make sense to overload on Kucherov's side and let someone else beat you.

-- Line cohesion. So early in the season so hard to be judgmental here but outside of a few dominating second period shifts only the 3rd line looked to be in sync. Typical Canes, we missed some high grade opportunities, Svetch open net, JR breakaway. I'd add, I'm not sure that the Aho-Svetch combo works (Aho looked like he was just back from his honeymoon last night...he was awful).

-- Goalie. Freddie played pretty well but once again he let in a goal at a key moment in the game. Top shelf shooter, sure, but Freddie had a clear view of it and it wasn't shot from the face-off circle but rather further out. Caveat is that I don't think Jarvy played that right either as he was too far away from Kucherov.

On to NJ.

 

[To Be Determined]

If we start with dikpiks around here hf may officially jump my shark.

We'd turn this place into a bad forensic cop show.

Zoom. Enhance. Zoom and enhance. What's that?

 

[NotOpie]

I think it was lower than glove level, well placed and you’re under rating the shot of one of the better scorers in NHL history. I think that goes in on just about any goalie in the league and not just on the shot but the quick set up/release. Freddie sucked last year but he also had four months off? He never got in a groove and he’s for sure nearing his finish line in the league. He’s become a scape goat though.

Yeah, well we'll have to agree to disagree.

I never said or even intimated that Freddie was to blame for the loss. I merely felt it was a shot he should have had. Like I said, different opinions (yours - wrong, mine - right)

I actually was a bit encouraged by the game. You could see what they were trying to do and if it was all in sync, they would have been fine. Yes, we missed Skjei and Pesce on the PK, but Walker and Gostisbehere were fine otherwise.

My concern is Svech. I didn't think he looked all that good in pre-season and he didn't look on top of his game last night. It wasn't an effort thing, it just appeared that he was lost. Which is understandable given that he seemed to be bounced back and forth on the top two lines.

I knew it was going to be a difficult game to win when Tampa started being able to pin us in our own end repeatedly. And it wasn't a size/physicality thing to me. They kept finding open spaces to put the puck; spaces where we weren't. Because they knew where it was going, they beat us to the spot....not a lack of effort on our part, but it did feel like the defensive system broke down slightly.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Have a hard time getting mad at a goalie for letting in a one timer from Nikita Kucherov.

Real problem is once Tampa went grind-out-a-one-goal-win mode the team generated nothing, which, when viewed in the context of losing Teuvo and Guentzel and replacing them with dumpster diving to make JR circa 2014 proud, is concerning

Pics or GTFO

Or maybe just GTFO

Either way

I got u @JustPenalties