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Imo MBN has Timo Meier upside
Prospect Info: 15th Overall, Michael Brandsegg-Nygaard
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ShanahanMan
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No matter how you cut it, he's had a disappointing season, especially when you consider how amazing Eiserman is doing and we happily passed on him.
At this rate, MBN will have lower numbers in his D+1 than his D year.
At this rate, MBN will have lower numbers in his D+1 than his D year.
OgeeOgelthorpe
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That's pretty good as an SHL rookie. If he finishes the year with 20+ points that's a good season for a kid.
For those saying Timo Meier potential, maybe. I wouldn't be shocked to see MBN 35 goals a season at least once in his career.
The Tom Wilson comparison is crazy though.
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lol. I hadn't followed Eiserman's year at all. Boy was I shocked to see his stat line after reading he is doing "amazing". Looks like he's doing right around the worst of any of the comparable 1st round guys that went into the NCAA that I quickly thought of from the 2-3 drafts.
And what numbers are you even comparing for MBN year over year? He changed leagues
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I'm not even a draft guru type guy but I watched some of him in the summer after getting drafted plus the whole forum loving him and it was obvious with him walking into the SHL that skating/speed against better competition would be something he'd have to adjust to and answer. I think he's done pretty well. His camp was smart to get a deal done before being drafted, he's likely paid more in the SHL this year vs coming over and he's still able to work on his overall skating.
I don't think anyone should look at MBN and be disappointed. Just my opinion. Filip Zadina might have benefitted from a route like this vs what he went through.
I don't think anyone should look at MBN and be disappointed. Just my opinion. Filip Zadina might have benefitted from a route like this vs what he went through.
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He’s already making improvements to his skating too, so I think SHL is the perfect place for him.
It’d be surprising. 6 points the last 9 and that’s with a garbage Skellefteå offense and not being utilized properly on the PP. He had a slow start but has been consistently good-to-great for a while now.
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lilidk
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He also got 1 year older. Already 19 and physically he doesn't need to get stronger, so what is the reason. How can he improve, Skating?
Pavels Dog
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There is no "reason", he's doing well. We've had these arguments since Raymond's d+1. People just don't understand SHL scoring. Unless you are a freak of nature like Elias Pettersson or Axel Sandin Pellikka it's really, really hard to put up big point totals as a U20 player.
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Lucas Raymond put up 18 points in 34 games for a pretty good Frolunda team in his d+1. And he played the prior season in the SHL so was already accustomed to the league. Gee, if you double MBNs numbers he would have 14 in 34 games....oh the humanity!!
The Timo Meier comp is excellent. Meier had plenty of doubters too, was a worse skater at the same age, and not as willing to hit people. The boxscore complaints are way out of proportion to reality.
Gniwder
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Well if that's the case, Eiserman's numbers also went down this year.
Hage is the one I wanted. He still leads U of M in points despite missing the last couple of games.
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I like how many experts post here.
I mean, I get it that it's more exciting if a kid is lighting it up in whatever league he plays in between draft night and when he joins the big club, versus having less appearances on the box score. And "wait and see" is the most boring take there is.
But sometimes I wonder if this should be standard issue for online discussion:
I mean, I get it that it's more exciting if a kid is lighting it up in whatever league he plays in between draft night and when he joins the big club, versus having less appearances on the box score. And "wait and see" is the most boring take there is.
But sometimes I wonder if this should be standard issue for online discussion:
Gniwder
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Are you a little confused today?
MBN is playing in a men's league this season after playing in a second tier men's league last season. He only played in 7 junior games.
Eiserman played for USNDPT last season and plays in college. Both are amateur leagues. While there isn't an age limit in college, there's only 4 years of eligibility and nobody besides you would consider it a men's league, especially considering that nobody gets paid.
Regardless, Hage is doing better than Eiserman. Hage leads the team in every offensive category as well as +/-. He's the one I wanted, but Yzerman had to have his "hard to play against" kid.
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MBN scored. Physical game, got him more involved.
Crazy amount of penalties in this game. Refs struggle.
Crazy amount of penalties in this game. Refs struggle.
He does have a very good shot. He might be a bit over-anxious to get it off quickly but you'd think his shooting pct is bound to rise eventually. Even in SHL he puts himself in good position for opportunities and gets a lot of them, that's encouraging.
